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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:29 AM Original message |
Andrew Sullivan nails it: 7 years with torture yielded no progress on UBL |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Actually... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Everything I've read said they got to the courier within the last 2 years (nt) |
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zaj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. NBC reported that the info on the Courier came from Gitmo in 2004. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Ah crap. There goes that argument (nt) |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Not necessarily. I remember seeing some |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. i am not buying. want a link or more. first 2004. saw 2007. most all is two years ago |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. The information came from interrogations in Gitmo. Link here: |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. OK, so torture got them a name, actual interrogation got them something actionable |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. so they got a name and did nothing. obama stepped in and worked it adn this is what we got. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. In his address, Obam, stated that the info came in August of last year |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. thanks. that is what i heard at beginning. then started getting distorted by fox and repugs.. nt |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. How sure are you that the torture is over with? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Err... Executive Order 13491 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. WE may or may not be torturing, but... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I'm not aware of foreign nationals captured by the military ever having recourse to hc |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. They aren't defined as "prisoners of war" and never have been |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. A "trial" for what? "Evidence" of what? |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Did you just fall off the turnip truck? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. What do you mean "denies them a trial"? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. The black site at Bagram is closed now? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
12. “They indicated he might be living with and protecting bin Laden,” |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
14. great point!!! The Pres should say this on national tv!!! |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. That is a very good line to quote |
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