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Derechos Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:14 PM
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The Ryan budget compels Americans to buy insurance—just like Obamacare does.
Source: Slate

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The Ryan budget would reshape Americans' access to health insurance mainly through two provisions, both of which pressure people to purchase private health insurance to an extent and through mechanisms that are materially indistinguishable from the supposedly toxic Obamacare mandate. One of these Ryan budget proposals—as yet little noticed by pundits or politicians—is almost an exact copy of its equivalent in the Affordable Care Act. It would repeal the current exclusion from employees' income of employer contributions to their health insurance premiums, thus terminating the subsidized employer-sponsored group health regime that covers nearly 60 percent of all Americans. In its place, the Republican plan would substitute a refundable tax credit, to be provided to individuals who purchase health insurance (or to employers who purchase health insurance for their employees). When this new arrangement takes effect in 2022, the tax credit would be set at $2,300 per adult and $1,700 per child, not to exceed $5,700 per family.

Like this Ryancare tax incentive, the "individual mandate" section of the ACA, which the White House calls the "individual responsibility" provision, constitutes a pay-or-play option. Beginning Jan. 1, 2014, when the ACA provision takes effect, individuals who do not qualify for exemption on hardship or other specified grounds, must either carry health insurance or pay a tax penalty as part of their annual income tax filing. The ACA caps individuals' penalty liability at 2.5 percent of household income above the filing threshold, or a flat dollar amount ranging from $695 to $2,085, depending on family size.

Under both provisions, the result is the same: People who choose to carry health insurance have a lower tax bill than they would if they chose not to. In terms of their respective potential impact on individuals' bank accounts and tax liability, the manner in which they affect individuals' financial incentives, and hence the constraining effect on individuals' financial choices to either buy or forgo health insurance, the two "mandate" provisions are identical. (Indeed, in most cases, the financial difference for the individual taxpayer made by the Republican tax credit would be greater—i.e., more "coercive"—than the ACA tax penalty.)

http://www.slate.com/id/2292901/
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:18 PM
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1. The one non-negotiable provision
funneling money through to health insurance companies

both sides, same play

who represents whom?

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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:22 PM
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2. RYANCARE!!
Duly noted.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:23 PM
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3. perfect framing nt
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timesup Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:24 PM
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4. Call me when we go to Single Payor, otherwise it's all crap.
n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:25 PM
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5. Boehner has been
pushing that point.

WH: No Comparison


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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 05:30 PM
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6. The Republicans will never repeal the Mandate.
The Mandate w/o a Public Option is what ALL good Republicans LOVE....
Mandated Profits for an Industry that manufactures NOTHING, and produces NO Wealth (value added).
:woohoo:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 06:53 PM
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7. woohoo now Dems can oppose the mandate!
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