Do you eat hamburger? You should know about 'Advanced Meat Reclamation'

http://blog.nobull.net/

excerpts:

"Contrary to the perception that meat is removed from the bones with AMR, the bones, along with the meat on the bones, is pulverized and blended into a fine slurry; frozen and shaped into various forms that are easily ground into many different meat products."

"USDA considers AMR to be meat (as opposed to bone, marrow and nervous tissue), enabling AMR to be sold to consumers as 'beef.'"

"Many foods from hamburgers to hot dogs and sausages contain AMR. It is used by most fast-food and chain restaurants as well as many independent food establishments that buy from major food service companies. Due to the significantly lower price, AMR is also used heavily in school lunch programs, hospitals, retirement homes, and other institutional establishments seeking the lowest possible prices. It was reported that Eldon Roth, owner of BPI, boasted that his AMR was in 70% of the hamburgers in the U.S., soon to be 100%."

bullshit.

:evilgrin:

:spray:

I'm sure not every meat producer is adding AMR... but the largest ones are. They definitely use Anhydrous Ammonia in most ground meat nowadays. It's amazing what you can do with a good grinding unit, some chemicals, and an extractor.

:shrug:


K&R for discussion

Bullshit is a distinct and separate by-product component of hamburger.

Yum...

I don't eat at McDonald anymore. Also chicken nuggets are gross.

fact-check this before you posted it?

and stopped at McDonald's for a coffee on the way.

Miz O got a chicken biscuit, took a couple of bites, put it down and said "This tastes too much like chicken beak."

I had told her the day before what I had read about the ingredients in nuggets.

Coffee nearly came out my nose.

Got a box of Amy's in my freezer with my name on it.

What did you think that this was one of *those* responses? Sorry, I'm too smart to put that awful pink slime shit into my body.

Nothing against either of them, but the Amy's burgers are just so good. There are a number of varieties, all excellent. The cost is a bit more, though, so there's that.

...but I'll have to try Amy's.

Thanks for the review!

copious amounts of veggie products for.... the taste! i love em!

Eat what you eat. Just happy that if/when it might come to burgers, you're eatin' veg!

Got to the point he'd order them at restaurants because he just preferred the taste.

yumminess.

morningstar farms makes veggie corn dogs... holy shit awesome.

Love beef burgers and I love veggie burgers as well. I think a lot of people expect them to taste like meat and that disappoints them. I like them because they are tasty of their own accord.

if you do.

More work but I love the crunchy, natural taste.

Can't find them in my area.

if you can't find them locally. Just a simple dry mix, so no special shipping rigamarole. Cheap as hell, too.

http://store.veganessentials.com/natures-burger-mix-by-fantastic-foods-p2297.aspx

I make them smallish & we use English muffins as the bun. ~slurp

Wish they'd come out with an organic version, though.

Fire the food police

:*

I can't wait.

I remember as a kid sucking the marrow from chicken bones... mmm mmm mmm.

People act as if man, as a meat eater, has never eaten anything but the best cuts of meat.

Such foolishness.

People act like it's a new thing to eat anything other than filet mignon, - but I think it is outrage that people eat meat at all. All I know is that I have canine teeth, which indicates that my species is intended to consume meat.

enjoyed chicken feet in soup.

than something like Haggis, or brains? I don't think it can.

Go Veg!

So please, continue eating how you wish, and so will I :)

Personally, I choose the healthy and ethical path.

One can eat meat and be both healthy and ethical. One can be a vegetarian and be unhealthy and unethical.

I applaud that you are healthy and ethical no matter which path you choose, however :D

them with a pair of shears or a knife intent on harvesting them or their fruit?

by name....Rufus, Celeste, Pig Floyd.... Used to have a small farm, and a neighbor butcher. My animals lived like kings and only had one bad moment in their whole lives.

No farm anymore, so now it's as "organic/natural" as I can find, and a lotta wild salmon.

Better for me, anyhow.

On edit: There was a dark side to the whole thing, tho. I used to name troublesome animals after certain school administrators I knew. Then, on slaughter day.....

Well I read your articles and links, and I can only surmised that you must be a vegan trying to stir up hysteria.

Try reading all of the information you cite...some bone used if under 30 months of age I. E. non-hardened/crystalized bone tissue.
peripheral Nerves, organs, tallow (fat) soft bone tissue...so what? We have always processed meat this way.

Your references:

http://blog.nobull.net/ and the forward links to the USDA...

This is the same as butchers have always done. With the exception that there were no guidelines on the age of the cattle's bone that could be used in human consumption...that is a improvement if you don't understand that human digestive tracks cannot process hard bone safely. (we don't have the stomach acids to soften the sharp splintering from bone particulates.

The main article http://www.industrysearch.com.au/Features/Grinding-out-more-business-400

is just explaining their improved processing equipment and NOT how they are grinding "all" the bones to fill the meat quota...

Oh and by the way...Hardened or crystalized bone could potentially kill a human by shredding the intestinal tract which is why there is a particulate limit set as an industry standard by the USDA and FDA since 1967 I believe was the date, but you can go look it up yourself...

side note: Animals particularly Dogs and Cats stomach enzymes and intestinal tracks are naturally designed to soften and process bone particulates which is why there is a higher bone particulate content in dog and cat food and is also why humans cannot eat their food without the risk of severe internal damage and/or death.

Drew,
Not a Freekin Vegan
Richards.

:9

"Well I read your articles and links, and I can only surmised that you must be a vegan trying to stir up hysteria."

To tell the truth, I ate some on-the-go cheap spaghetti just three days ago, I read this article and freaked and decided to post a link to it here, all not done very quickly with no research or double-checking. I would love to be proven wrong on this.

I had gone to a website that used to be the Derry Brownfield site, because I found out today the show was carrying on, as best it could, after his death. (edit for clarification: The link I found was on this sites's links.)

I am guilty of posting this without double-checking, and came back to see what was up as I saw another thread started about my thread (which is pretty funny, really) by someone who had no intention of reading this thread.

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What I thought would really happen here, is my post would get dragged off to the "Health" section as a mis-categorized post and sit there never to be seen again.

Stirring up hysteria is not my intent. It is ***always*** my intent when coming here to read, including in posts that i make, what OTHER people have to say about the matter.

And gracious Astral, I formally take back my hysteria comment.
Yours was a natural concern for health and I will interpret it so.

Drew.

There's lots to learn for us all. Things are changing around us, all the time!

- No regrets here.

Massage the meat off the bone? :)

j/k

:sarcasm:

look for Sirloin and grind it up yourself. There are times when Sirloin is cheaper than ground "beef" and you KNOW what's going in that hamburger.