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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:06 PM
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I KNOW I should read the post"Do you eat hamburger? 'Advanced Meat Reclamation' BUT I'M TERRIFIIED!!
Every time I look through the list of posts I see "Do you eat hamburger? You should know about 'Advanced Meat Reclamation'" and I quickly look away!!!

I'm terrified that they are going to ruin delicious tasty hamburgers for me.

Sigh...sometimes it is very VERY hard to be part of an informed public.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:07 PM
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1. yea, but I know they are bad for me already
but damn it, I love hamburgers.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:08 PM
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2. with bacon and cheese....
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:09 PM
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3. Just make sure that you stay away from fast food burgers and ground beef in chubs.
Get the fresh-ground stuff from the meat counter and you're fine.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:10 PM
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4. chubs?
I'm assuming you don't mean grinding up overweight people?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:12 PM
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6. This is a chub:


If you see ground beef in a package like that, don't buy it. That's the stuff the article is talking about.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:13 PM
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8. Chubs ...
The round packaged ground meats found in supermarket meat counters ...

They are covered in plastic tubes and cinched at both ends with metal staples ... They come in a few sizes ....
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:20 PM
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11. LOL.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 01:21 PM by LAGC
That made me laugh.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:11 PM
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5. They've already been ruined for me...
Six years ago I went to a local town fair and met some hamburger on the hoof.

A most gorgeous young black bull. I was less than ten feet from him as he stood in the judging ring. I looked into his eyes.

It didn't occur to me that he would be sold for meat until the judge mentioned "the market".

From that day I could never eat beef again.

I hate to admit that the smell of cooking beef makes my mouth water. Past memory and all...but then I see his eyes in my mind.

No. Just can't do it.

:(

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:05 PM
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14. My grandfather loved animals of all kinds -- so he became a farmer.
He was wonderful to his cattle, his sheep, his chickens and his hogs, but he butchered them all when their time came.

Back then, he allowed his animals to graze free until that fateful day on which they were slaughtered to be sold as meat. Such is the way of farming. Such is the way of nature.

Remember when you think of that gorgeous young black bull that he would never have been born, his hoofs would never have stamped this earth, had he not been destined for the stockyard and the dinner plate.

Cows don't make good house pets. (Although I believe that I have seen pictures of German households in which a cow is sticking its head into the kitchen through the top half of the kitchen door.)

No one would breed or keep a cow or a bull if they couldn't sell the meat. Cows have been bred for meat for a long time. If you keep a garden or farm, you soon learn that nature is about eating and being eaten -- or a lot of it is.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:37 PM
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17. Yeah, I realize the practical side of it...
Even with the wild animals out here who have to kill for food.

When I was a child I used to watch shows like "Wild Kingdom", etc. and there would be the inevitable scene where a predator was chasing down and trying to kill its food. Well, as a sensitive child, I would cry and be very angry at the camera crew for ALLOWING this to happen...oh, why don't they just STOP it, I wondered...

I've grown past that, somewhat, although it still pains me to see it, but I know the predators can't go to the market and get themselves a soy burger or something.

What bothers me about humans eating meat is that we're not like the predators who cull the herds and make them healthier. The old, the sick. Yes, sometimes the very young who can't keep up.

But we eat the best of the best, it seems. That bothers me. :(
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:42 PM
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20. Dear JDPriestly, cows have been kept for milk only in India for a very long time
Edited on Sun May-08-11 03:43 PM by KittyWampus
and in Africa, they are kept by the Maasai for their blood.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:22 AM
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35. How do the Masai get the blood from the cattle?
As for India, how many of its people are hungry? I would not look to a country like India with such a large number of hungry people for an example.

Vegetarians suggest that that their diet is environmentally friendly. But the fact is that growing enough vegetables to replace meat as a staple in the diet requires an enormous investment of labor. Vegetables are wonderful. I love them, but you have to eat a lot of them to feel full.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:09 PM
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27. We moved to a farm when I was a freshman...my dad named every animal
and treated them really well...then he'd kill them and we'd eat them. Nothing went to waste, the animal had a good life... so my ideals of eating meat are probably different than most. But, these mega farms are really mean to their animals. I saw a movie on cow abuse and couldn't eat beef for a year.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 01:23 AM
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36. Yes. Farming has changed for the worse.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:20 PM
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10. Good thing I'm used to seeing gore... But someone is gonna
SMACK you for posting that. ;)

But for those in the know, inadvertent human parts may be the least objective of what might end up in hamburger, I'm afraid.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:37 PM
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24. I'd respond with pics of what else might end up in burger but I fear the pizza.
Edited on Sun May-08-11 06:38 PM by L0oniX
It is however interesting that the post was started by someone with the nickname Snoutport.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 01:18 PM
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9. OK I don't want to open up #7 again to write this...It should come with a warning. Seriously. n/t
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:51 PM
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12. I'm going to pretend that was fake.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:38 PM
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18. Me too. n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:57 PM
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13. Go to a store that sells meat at a counter.
Pick a nice juicy piece of sirloin, preferably grassfed. You won't need all that much for a wonderful hamburger. Ask the butcher to grind the meat for you --- grind the fresh, whole piece of meat.

That's how you buy hamburger.

And if you do that, you won't ever need to even glance at that awful scary post.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 10:12 PM
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28. I love you JDPriestly!! You saved hamburger for me!
Edited on Sun May-08-11 10:12 PM by Snoutport
AND, I didn't have to read the scary post. :0)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:51 PM
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31. .....that's... a *really* good idea.
I think I'll do that the next time I want ground beef. And it'll probably taste a whole lot better.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:13 PM
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15. Buy ground bison....it's to die for!
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:27 PM
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16. Turn away. It's hideous.
Ignorance will set you free.

:rofl:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 03:39 PM
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19. want tasty, delicious hamburger? But steak and grind it yourself.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 04:42 PM
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21. Actually chuck makes better hamburgers
You need that fat for the flavor. Steak is usually too lean. Alton Brown suggests using half chuck and half sirloin for his Burger of the Gods recipe: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/burger-of-the-gods-recipe2/index.html
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 05:41 PM
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22. Noted- thanks. Never argue with Alton Brown
Edited on Sun May-08-11 05:41 PM by KittyWampus
:)
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:13 PM
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26. Alton Brown also recommends grinding all your own meats
Rather than buying pre-ground meat at the store. I've got an antique grinder - maybe I will start doing that, though we are eating less and less meat. Tonight's dinner used 4 slices of bacon, a pound of mushrooms, one onion, one clove of garlic,sour cream, herbs, swiss cheese and puff pastry. We ate about one fourth of the mushroom tart, so it was very economical.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:03 PM
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23. Why be scared? Both "advanced" and "reclamation" are extremely positive words...
;)
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 08:03 PM
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25. I'll tell you what. Don't read the thread, just know where YOUR hamburger is coming from.
I also like to eat hamburger sometimes, only I don't like to buy and cook raw meat. I like to eat spaghetti or chilli or whatever from deli's sometime, and I knew in a vague way already that hamburger was not a great thing to eat, as far as meat goes. But I do not avoid it. I came back and went to my thread, after seeing THIS one tonite (because to tell you the truth I almost forgot by now that I had even started a thread here today) and there are some very interesting responses.

There's so much bad stuff to read about food out there I really get tired of clicking on links and looking myself, really. But to some extent we have to know what's going on.

We live in very interesting tiems . . . . <<< sigh. >>>
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:46 PM
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29. "OMG there are BONES in it!" makes me wonder...
if these people eat gelatin.

A gelatin dessert, my friends, is cow bones and sugar.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:49 PM
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30. The thread would not ruin eating HOMEMADE hamburgers for you...just the fastfood kind
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:58 PM
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32. McDonalds may be telling the truth when they say their burgers are 100% beef...
but they won't tell you that you're eating the lips and assholes.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:24 AM
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33. Dear Lord.
(facepalm)
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:29 AM
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34. In many ways Snout, you're a real cutie
Young, dedicated, caring.

I wish you'd pick your topics a little more carefully.
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