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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:09 AM
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The most frightening revelation from the Bin Laden raid
Despite what we were told by the Bush Administration for seven years, Osama Bin Laden was NOT stuck in a cave. He moved about and hid in plain sight, reviewing and commenting on potential terror operations. Does that just blow a gigantic hole in the Bush administration's rationale for getting into Iraq, that OBL was no longer someone to worry about? This degree of carelessness is criminal.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:22 AM
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1. I don't think we needed anything about OBL to blow a hole in his rationale for getting into Iraq
That whole debacle twisted reality to the point where the argument was, inexplicably, a solid mass of hole to begin with.

What I find frightening about the whole thing is the fact that here we are, here of all sites, where every last person should know better, talking about bin Laden as a casus belli for Iraq as though that were ever even marginally, vaguely plausible. It shows how thoroughly worldviews managed to get rewritten in the last decade.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:04 AM
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3. They created 'reality' & we're still dancing to their tune. Nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:37 AM
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5. +1
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 04:43 AM
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2. The reason we were given to attack Iraq was "weapons of mass destruction" -- the giant
"mushroom cloud", shamelessly coined that way due to the fact that the images of explosions & clouds of smoke from the twin towers were still fresh in everyone's minds.

Bin Laden was th reason for going into Afghanistan, but, curiously, all focus was on Saddam & Iraq. In hindsight, that's particularly disturbing. I hope if Bush/Cheney were in any way responsible for bin Laden's extended freedom, it will be revealed in the data recovered from bin Laden's refuge.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 12:02 PM
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17. They connected Saddam to Al Qaeda...
so the scare tactic was to imagine Saddam giving nuclear weapons to terrorists...that was the whole "mushroom cloud" scenario that Condi Rice conjured up.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 03:27 PM
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18. To be fair, the reason we were given to attack Iraq felt decided by a daily dice roll. (nt)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:24 AM
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4. RandySF
RandySF

If you really want to hide something, you might as well hide it out in plain sight - as few pepole is able to thinK, that a secret are out in the open.. And in the case of mr Osama, he had the support of many to secure the plain sigh secret.. Bot in the government of Pakistan, and in the public of large..

If it was not for a "traitor" who desided enough was enough, and wislet the fellow, he might as well had been hiding all his years, and died as a old man withouth anyone in the know where he was, or that he might have "retired" from the business of shoise.. Its hard to be super villian when your body are not the same as you want it to be... He was after all, a old man who had a few injuries and had his share of troubles from in younger years.. Its costly on the body, to live under the stars for years....

Diclotican
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:39 AM
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6. The Bush Administration defined the word "criminal"
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:30 AM
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7. Apparently you missed Condiwarcriminal's new meme-
that the cave was a metaphor. :puke:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:45 AM
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9. So was "The Mushroom Cloud"...
Man, I despise these people.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:50 AM
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10. Ditto
:fistbump:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:58 AM
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11. Yeah, we all read Plato, too, Condi.... n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:41 AM
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8. What year did Bush decide to pass on hunting down bin Laden?
Was that in 2005? And, bin Laden must have started building that compound in 2006, if that was five years ago.

No one is going to convince me that there wasn't some political-business deal going on there. I'm guessing it was between Bush and some Saudi corpo giant who wanted him to back off bin Laden, but supported his assault on Iraq.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:14 AM
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15. In 2002 he said he "wasn't concerned" about him much any more.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:58 AM
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16. Yeah, thanks. That was clarified in another post.
I didn't realize it had been that early.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:04 AM
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12. I think the most frightening thing about this raid is....
the realization that most of the people in tghe Arab world are ok with the idea that Bin Laden was doing fine for all these years after 911. With our mass inveasion we have built this great hatred from the population in the middle east, but our media has sold us a BS story of how we're doing good for those people.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:12 AM
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13. to me, the scariest thing is that they could have done this at any time
so why now? OBL had been living there for years and the US sheep had been told to forget about him (as they are being told again now). But to kill him now, at the beginning of the re-election campaign just reeks of page turning.

My fear is that if we are being told to forget OBL once and for all, that means they have a new boogie man lined up (and a new war to sell). And I think I know where it is....
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 09:13 AM
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14. Here I thought it was the revelation that he had 52 siblings.
Edited on Mon May-09-11 09:15 AM by WinkyDink
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