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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:48 PM
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U.S. wants Osama's wives (AP Reports)...but Should His wives and Kids be Interrogated for More Info?
(Wondering what other DU'ers think about "getting more info from Osama's wives and Children?..How far do we go? GITMO? POLICE DETENTION AND QUESTIONING? ) :shrug:

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U.S. wants Osama's wives
BY CHRIS BRUMMITT - Associated PressISLAMABAD The United States wants access to Osama bin Laden's three widows and any intelligence material its commandos left behind at the al-Qaida leader's compound, a top U.S. official said in comments broadcast Sunday. The request could add tension to already frayed ties with Pakistan.

Information from the women, who remained in the house after the commandos killed bin Laden, might answer questions about whether Pakistan harbored the al-Qaida chief, as many American officials are speculating. It could also reveal details about the day-to-day life of bin Laden, his actions since the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and the inner workings of al-Qaida.

The women, along with several children also picked up from the house, are thought to be in Pakistani army custody. A Pakistani army official declined to comment Sunday on the request, which U.S. National Security Adviser Tom Donilon revealed on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The CIA and Pakistan's spy agency, known by the abbreviation ISI, have worked uneasily together in the past on counterterrorism, but the unilateral U.S. raid - done without Pakistan's knowledge - has exposed the deep mistrust that scars a complicated if vital partnership for both nations.

More at....
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/05/09/v-print/1185489/us-wants-osamas-wives.html

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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:52 PM
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1. The wives should be questioned. They have nothing to lose. nt
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:53 PM
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4. And if Pakistan refuses, then that is very very telling n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:53 PM
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2. They are in the custody of the Pakistani army. US wants to ask them if OBL was aided by Pakistan
Per the article.

It is an interesting question

"Information from the women, who remained in the house after the commandos killed bin Laden, might answer questions about whether Pakistan harbored the al-Qaida chief, as many American officials are speculating. It could also reveal details about the day-to-day life of bin Laden, his actions since the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and the inner workings of al-Qaida.

The women, along with several children also picked up from the house, are thought to be in Pakistani army custody. A Pakistani army official declined to comment Sunday on the request, which U.S. National Security Adviser Tom Donilon revealed on NBC's "Meet the Press."
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:53 PM
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3. Should his wives and kids be interrogated for more info?
Edited on Mon May-09-11 05:56 PM by Cali_Democrat
His wives and kids? I think it probably would have been best to interrogate the Al-Qaeda leader himself rather than kill him if you're so interested in this information.

Now they want more information and they want to get it from his wife and kids? Perhaps it would have been more prudent to capture an unarmed Bin Laden rather than kill him if the US government was so interested in this kind of info.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:54 PM
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5. So you think his wives know nothing?
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:56 PM
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6. I'm sure they know something
But Bin Laden himself probably knew more. At least I would think he knew more about the Al-Qaeda terror network.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 05:58 PM
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7. Hard Drives and flash drives will reveal more than OBL ever would. Wives can tell if Pakistan was
helping OBL hide. Wives can tell about who was visiting the compound. And so on. All useful information.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:04 PM
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8. True
But I would think that even more useful information could come from the man himself, but it's really a moot point because he's dead anyways.
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:55 PM
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22. The most elite military operation had the world's deadliest terrorist
active head standing in front of them - unarmed - yet the decision was made to execute him on the spot instead of trying to learn anything about this most extreme despot. Nothing to learn here, folks, move along...
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:04 AM
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23. Yup!
Also, we wouldn't want all that 9/11 information and past Osama-CIA connections actually coming out in a real trial now would we?

Move along folks....
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:09 PM
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9. Most criminal investigations involve questioning the family don't they?
Doesn't this seem like standard procedure? Their husband's a murderer, a terrorist and a criminal - virtually any agency on the face of the planet would want to question the family. If Pakistan doesn't allow even cursory access, that would be telling.

That said, I'm sure Pakistan won't give them up to the US to take out of the country. Also I'm sure they'll use the fact that they're holding them to "extort" something from the US in return for access to the family. Is the information that would be learned worth whatever "price" we have to pay? I'm not sure. And if the US is looking for the wives to implicate Pakistan, they sure as hell won't say anything that may get them into Pakistan's torture rooms while they are in Pakistan custody.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:41 PM
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12. U.S. law says a wife cannot be compelled to testify against her husband.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:18 PM
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20. Isn't questioning different than testifying in court?
Frankly, I'm not sure they'll find out much from the women and children. I'm guessing OBL probably had an "old-fashioned" view of women (ie: akin to property) and thus he probably didn't share a hell of a lot with them.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:37 PM
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10. I thoiught the CIA spent close to a year watching that place.
And wouldn't the terrabytes of data/e-mails clearly address the extent of Pakistan's involvement with OBL? I can't imagine that the wives/children would have a whole lot more useful information
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 06:40 PM
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11. Why? We let other family members leave the US IN SEPTEMBER 2001!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:20 PM
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16. You know what's amazing...Is that this was Big News at the time...but has died..and no one talks
about Bush allowing the bin Laden Family members to fly out just after "9/11." The flew out while every other plane in US was Grounded as I remember it. But, you know if you find links or reports and would post them here...you will end up in the DU Dreaded "9/11 Forum"...so maybe those reports are considered "lies" these days. But, as I remember, the reports were from Washington Post and New York Times, LA Times, Boston Globe.

I guess at that time those MSM Sites weren't considered Conspiracy. I guess given the changes since "9/11" and the Aftermath that the stories changed and the reporting has been "changed" that the bin Laden Family didn't fly out undercover while other American Flights were cancelled all over the continent.

I think the NEW STORY is that ALEX JONES put the DISINFO OUT about Saudi's getting out. So we should all be considered "Conspiracy Theorists" because we read what we read after "9/11" and if it's been scrubbed or we are too tired to look for the quotes because trolls say they aren't true...Then the problem lies with what are supposed to be "OUR LIES" and not those who "SAY it ALL DOESN'T EXIST" about biLaden Family flying out under cover of dark...sanctioned by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld.

Dystopia America!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:10 PM
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26. This.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 07:36 PM
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13. Is there a "Moral and Ethical Question" we should ask ourselves if we push to turn over Wives &
Children?

Is there something "Ethical" in lines we might cross, here? :shrug:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 07:42 PM
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14. Turned to the tender mercies of the CIA? Break out the waterboards.
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." Friedrich Nietzche
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 07:45 PM
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15. Yeah. Heck, let's waterboard the whole lot of them. THAT will work.
:sarcasm:
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:21 PM
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17. He no doubt thought of them as property
it's entirely likely he said something when they were present and thought no more of concealing information from them than he would from a toaster oven in the room.

Perhaps that belief can be useful for a change.
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IamK Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:01 PM
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18. Sounds like its time to ask again with a Predator....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:11 PM
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19. Yeah! Waterboard 'em!
And if they still won't talk, stress position them. Maybe get Charles Graner out of "retirement". And Lynndie England, too.

THEY knew how to handle murderous terrorists. Oh, and keep a SEAL team in the room, just to remind 'em of what happens if they make any "sudden moves".

Right? Who's with me? USA! USA! USA! C'mon, I can't hear you!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 10:46 PM
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21. I am not really sure what the US Government means by the word "interrogate." nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:09 PM
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24. True...the "definition" morphs from administration to administration...
Edited on Tue May-10-11 09:10 PM by KoKo
Yet our "People's Representatives...Congress and House"...still leave it to "The Commander-in-Chief" to figure out what the Constitution/Bill of Rights really meant. It's up to who "serves" as President and not the people. Disgusting!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 09:10 PM
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25. No, what would be the point? The guy is dead.
Edited on Tue May-10-11 09:10 PM by krabigirl
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