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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:36 AM
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I'd rather be a "bleeding heart Liberal"
than a heartless conservative.
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:41 AM
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1. AMEN!!!!! n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:43 AM
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2. Well what we need now are people who can pay for the bleeding heart liberal system.
If we can't produce the geniuses who are the smarts behind revolutionary products, then we can't support the country can we? A society that is declining and losing it's edge will have a hard time giving the have nots a semi comfy life through redistribution.

Cheer for the innovators who we all depend on.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:56 AM
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5. Well, then, you sure showed the OP. :3 nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:01 PM
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7. Have we located John Galt? Is that YOU?
Edited on Tue May-10-11 12:03 PM by PassingFair
Are you JOKING?

:rofl:

Please ...in a country where 93 percent of all financial wealth is controlled by the top 10 percent of the country?

You're concerned about the so-called "innovators" on whom we all depend?

:rofl:

Why are you even posting on this board, don't you have some
utopian innovator's paradise to run?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:05 PM
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8. All the more reason to support those pesky socialist educational programs...
And make sure "We the People" are educated.

Redistribution? Comfy life? WTF? We lived through the redistribution already, so I'm not really sure what you are talking about.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:19 PM
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11. Taxing the 2%ers, most of whom have done NOTHING to actually "earn"
their wealth other than be born, at the same rate as The Little People (TM) will solve that problem PDQ.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:37 PM
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13. Is this parody?
Because otherwise, WTF.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:32 PM
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16. A search by author will quickly tell you it isn't. -nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:40 PM
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20. No.
He also supported Arizona's immigration law, among many other chestnuts of wisdom.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:38 PM
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26. this one has many curious positions
apparently, this one is bulletproof, because they commonly argue from the other side.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:42 PM
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14. You don't know how redistribution of wealth works, do you?
Step 1. People with money finance the election system and offer back-end incentives for politicians to do what they want. You can't get elected without their money, if you give them what they want while in office, they give you a cushy job for millions of dollars a year when you leave office.

Step 2. Massive government contracts are handed out to these donors. They become even wealthier because of them. Also, the minimum wage remains stagnant and well below the cost of living, people are required to spend every penny on health care or die, and a system of deregulation combined with too big to fail lets big banks take all profits but makes the taxpayer pay for any major losses.

Step 3. Tax code is essentially written by the lobbyists hired by these rich people and corporations, filled with loopholes for them and secret costs transferred to the rest of us. Then the rich can keep complaining about their high tax rate, while actually paying a lower percentage than the rest of us.

End result? The wealth that the majority owns, controls, and produces, is taken from them by the government under the control of rich donors and corporations, and shoveled into the coffers of the already rich. You have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and you have a straw, and I have a straw, and my straw goes aaaaaaall the way across the room, and I drink your milkshake. I drink it all up.

This is how wealth redistribution works. What we need now is a little wealth restoration back to the people who produce that wealth.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 09:39 AM
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36. Well said! You must be a teacher. Wish I could rec your post. nt
Edited on Wed May-11-11 09:41 AM by raccoon
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 02:18 PM
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37. No, I'm not, but thanks
Edited on Wed May-11-11 03:03 PM by Capitalocracy
Maybe I'll make it an OP so you can.

On edit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1084323

And far from being a teacher, I actually have no education at all.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:39 PM
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19. Took the bait right away. What a shock.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:07 AM
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27. And by such a generic, nondescript OP. Really odd. -nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:21 AM
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28. Instinct, apparently.
:)
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:46 PM
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21. Man, it's weird in here today.
I'm disgusteded out.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:27 PM
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22. The weird has been escalating exponentially.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:33 PM
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24. True,
It seems like a group of angry people are dropping the chips from their shoulders into DU:GD.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:41 AM
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31. This country is in no way lacking in "innovators" ...
... but you seem to have inventors confused with capitalists. Most of our really clever products are being made elsewhere to maximize the profits of the people who put up the money to market them. The "geniuses" are not the people who end up rich here.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:46 AM
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3. Absolutely.....
and I have said this out loud in mixed company.


Tikki
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:48 AM
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4. You Forgot..............
...............spineless, brainless, soulless, and in most cases, dickless. HOPELESS.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 11:59 AM
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6. I love when they make fun of empathy
As in "those stupid libruls always pretending to have empathy." Shows their true colors.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:08 PM
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9. because they don't have any and know there is something wrong with them
but can fess up to it.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:36 PM
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12. Either they don't have any (sociopath) or
they think it's too much trouble to heed whatever suffocated emapthy-transmissions their withered conscience can squeeze out. Greed--and the fact of being on the positive side of systemic discrimination (and thus encouraged to continue stomping on peeps)--can make a satan of a saint.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:26 PM
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15. well said!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:08 PM
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10. uh-oh... now you've done it
bravo!!!!!
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Broadsword Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:26 PM
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17. I'd rather be a tax and spend Liberal...
Than a 'spend everything, then spend more, then borrow some, then spend all of that and more for zero national gain' Republican.
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Snedder Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:33 PM
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18. There's always another war
to waste money & blood on.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:29 PM
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23. Me, too.
Any day of the week.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 08:35 PM
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25. I'd rather be a "hand-wringer" than a person infinitely flexible morals. nt
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:05 AM
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29. Amen...
k&r:dem:
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:30 AM
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30. Amen. n/t
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:44 AM
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32. "Better a bleeding heart than none at all."
Or, as the late Mike Ryoko once wrote: "It's harder to be a liberal than it is to be a conservative...because it's easier to give someone the finger than to give them a helping hand."
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:49 AM
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33. I'd rather make decisions than live by dogma
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 07:51 AM
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34. Hear hear.
:applause:
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 08:34 AM
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35. The older I get, the more liberal I become . . .
. . . because it becomes increasingly more evident how conservatism has failed us all.
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