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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:38 PM
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Why is it that the hard right Republicans can't fathom people making
choices for themselves, that they need the malevolent guidance of a supra nanny state backed by the threat of an Old Testament God in order to keep their vision of morality alive while at the same time reject any sort of regulation on the market forces that are designed to punish and reward in harsh and shocking ways...

Liberals have their idea of social justice as well. From what I understand, give the benefit of the doubt toward the quirks that make people individuals as long as they don't hurt others. The individuality of Americans, what I believe has been the engine of progress, should be, according to liberals, nurtured.

And when it comes to the market place, the liberal democrat is more interested in keeping the consumer from being cheated. This extends to the individual as well as the market place where liberals want to recognize all the hidden costs of doing business and hold accountable those who willfully profit off the harm of others.

So the Republicans trust business interests to have "our" best interests in mind. Never mind that they also worship the relentless movement toward maximizing profits which holds inherent dangers to the individual, the community and the environment.

So my basic question is this; why don't Conservatives trust people as individuals but give carte blanche to individuals collected together as an economic entity?

While we are at it, the religion of the right is more concerned with the morality of the many, the prime example is to prohibit abortion, and yet continually let charlatan preachers and "men of god", acting as individuals, steal and cheat as long as they repent and cry in front of the congregation.

Profit is king and the rights of the individual to freely express himself is to be mooted at all cost.

This, I believe, is the inherent conflict within the Republican Party.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:44 PM
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1. Their collective mantra is "Don't tell me what to do!"
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:47 PM
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2. Almost right...
....their collective mantra is "Don't tell me what to do, tell everyone ELSE what to do!"
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 04:49 PM
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3. "Republicans trust business interests to have 'our' best interests in mind"
This has been the Big Lie for decades now. The idea that business has our best interests at heart. Moreso than "government." That's mindset really got a boost with Reaganomics.

I find it laughable that "government" is viewed as evil by the right-wingers. That's right..."government." That entity created of, by, and for "the people." We are "government," then we must be "evil?"

But corporations, which are entities created of, by, and for investors, for some reason are more preferred than "government." Investors have our best interests at heart because they are "good?"

So, "government" (people) is "bad;" "business" (investors) is "good"...

I never understood this dichotomy! :crazy:
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:11 PM
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7. I think the meta-idea is that business is natural, government not.
It's a pernicious fantasy, but I think that's where they're coming from. They see business as a natural expression of the acceptable human desires, and government as the agency they want to use to suppress their own (and everyone else's) unacceptable desires. It goes along with the meme that human nature is destructive and sinful, and needs to be carefully controlled.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:42 PM
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4. Good questions, all.
Recommended.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:46 PM
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5. The only choice they want to exercise is that they choose when
everyone gives them all their money.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:56 PM
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6. Conservatives are dependent, and competitive. Liberals are independent and use initiative.
Edited on Tue May-10-11 05:57 PM by Gregorian
One behaves like an infant does, trying to gain favor. The other acts like a productive person.

I'm just reading a book titled Beyond Success and Failure. It's not about politics, but each chapter could very well pertain to this stuff.

I am certain that politics stems from personal behavior. The competitive person sees a leader as someone whose head is above theirs. They follow, and can even out pace them. But take the leader away, and the competitive person falls. The independent acts spontaneously, like a grazing horse, moving from tuft of grass to tuft of grass. Able to function and produce without being lead.

The competitive will kill to succeed.

This is also why Republicans are like a band, or gang. It looks like they have a really good thing. But they don't. And it's why Democrats argue, and look like a loose band of hillbillies. We are spontaneous, and full of initiative. And we're productive. We create the society.

This is the opinion of a guy on a forum. Me.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:28 PM
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8. "Profit is king" says it all. A yacht must be a mega-yacht; a car must be a one-off Bugatti; i.e.,
the ultra-wealthy are mega-unsatisfied.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:29 PM
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9. because they have no respect for other's rights
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