Freeper thinks Cain is an affirmative action candidate

and hilarity ensues. Wonder if they support him because of that 'white guilt' the Obama voters apparently suffered from? Remember that charge?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2720593/posts

I'd never thought I'd see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action. The myopic and destructive support for Cain for President is TOTALLY based on the simple fact that he's an articulate black man and self-made businessman, so conservatives can say, "See! See! We're not racists, we love black guys too!" But so was bland boring white guy John Cox, a businessman who ran for President in 2008, also without having zero experience in elective office. So where was the support for him?

Please spare me the inevitable BS about how you'd rather support a businessman (or use the old pick names out of the telephone analogy) than "career politicians." I am not talking about lifelong bureaucrats serving in departments or agencies, I am clearly talking about elective office. Herman Cain has ZIPPO, NADA, ZERO experience in public office and the simple fact of the matter is that in the modern political era, the American people has overwhelmingly looked to state executives (Governors), retired or military Commanders, or Senators who still had some lower-level executive or business experience for President.

Now, if Cain would have won his Senate race in 2004 or at least had been Mayor of Atlanta and then won a Congressional seat and then ran for the Presidency, then this vanity post would be moot and I would be a likely supporter (although his age would have been an issue). I have no problems with Herman Cain, I admire his background, his intelligence, his business acumen, but right now to support him for the Presidency would be a huge mistake.

Number of factors why Cain shouldn't run and he if does, he shouldn't be supported:

AGE: Herman Cain is 65 years old. The GOP has a stable of younger, more dynamic stars on the rise that refutes the narrative that they're not the same-old party of old guys. It's time for a new generation of leaders, and Cain was needed 10 years ago.

POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: No businessman, Congresscritter, and only 2 Senators in the modern era have ever won the White House. It is EXTREMELY (no pun intended) difficult for a businessman off the streets to run for President because the perception is that the American people have always supported someone who at least won elective office first. Herman Cain has never held elective office and that makes him a non-starter.

MEDIA SPOTLIGHT: Look, let's get serious folks. Herman Cain is not photo-genic, and you know what I mean. The liberal media and entertainment industry will reduce him to a caricature and completely ignore the issues, all the while spotlighting the youthfulness of Obama.

Herman Cain is not electable folks. That's not to say he doesn't have a role in the election. He should surely be a spokesman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to inner-city blacks about how destructive liberal policies are, or he should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele. All Cain will do is split the conservative vote and we get another RINO for the GOP nominee.

1 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:33:05 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist

How insulting.

You think I like Mr. Cain because he’s black?!?!?!? Well, let me inform you that I have a brain & can think for myself. I like what he says on his radio show, and I don’t care if he’s held public office. Frankly, I think career politicians are the problem with this country. He’s been in administrative positions in the private sector. That’s good enough for me.

12 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:47:58 PM by surroundedbyblue

He should surely be a spokesman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to inner-city blacks about how destructive liberal policies are, or he should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele.

You claim Cain's supporters are looking at race then smugly state he should do race based spokesman work? Hypocrite much? Let's turn the tables on you:

She should surely be a spokeswoman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to working moms about how destructive liberal policies are, or she should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele.

If Palin looked like Madeleine Albright you she wouldn't get one thread a year on FreeRepublic.
25 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:54:31 PM by Pan_Yan

This is coming from a guy who supports Ron Paul who is what, 71?

I don't support Paul anymore.

So we want to keep doing the same thing over and over (getting career politicians) and expect different results?

Strawman. I'm looking for someone who has a history of GETTING THINGS DONE - in elective office. Results. You cannot compare business experience with elective office experience, it's not the same level.

27 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 2:55:15 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)

I don’t think Cain can win, but I don’t think he’s worth a vanity post against his candidacy’s getting FR attention.

1. No, I don’t think you are racist or accusing others here of “affirmative action.” (I DO agree that any black candidate enjoys a certain amount of inoculation against charges of racism, but that only goes so far. Just ask Clarence Thomas, right?) I agree that the double standard largely lies with the left, including the MSM.

2. I want people like Cain in the running, for awhile, to skewer business-ignorant politicians — hopefully mostly Dems! — and bring PRIVATE ENTERPRISE as an issue into the forefront. Sort of like how a John Bolton candidacy, although probably weak on economic issues, would help sharpen the focus on foreign and military policy.

33 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:00:55 PM by pogo101

Are you playing Devils advocate?

Series, this sounds like a trial balloon to see how many Cain supporters are here.

I would love a Cain Palin ticket or visa versa.

35 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:02:38 PM by right way right

Sorry my friend, I disagree with your analysis.

I would support Herman Cain BECAUSE HE BESTS ARTICULATES WHAT I BELIEVE IN. Not only that, compared to Obama, he stands as a person who has actually ACCOMPLISHED something — TURNED AROUND TWO BUSINESSES TO MAKE THEM PROFITABLE.

That’s saying more about his executive abilities than being a community rabble rouser. His color is of NO CONSEQUENCE WHATSOEVER. He could be Yellow, Red, Brown or even Green for all I care.

Look at the current crop of people who have announced their intentions for running — Newt, Ron Paul, Romney, Ric Santorum, Gary Johnson, Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann.

Scan the entire lot and look at their backgrounds and the issues they articulate and they policies they have espoused or implemented, do you honestly believe based on their backgrounds, any of them can be better than Herman Cain?

Other than Michelle Bachmann, I can’t see anyone on this list who I can be enthusiastic about.

41 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:04:06 PM by SeekAndFind (u)

"FReepers are supporting him simply because he's black, period."


That is utter nonsense. So I guess he is a favorite of the Tea Party for the same reason? I guess everyone likes Allen West for the same reason? And I guess we all like Palin because she is a woman? It wouldn't have anything to do with what their stated ideas are? I for one like what Cain has said so far.

54 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:13:37 PM by ScottinSacto (If anyone will beat Obama, let's not send just anyone.)

“I’d never thought I’d see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action.”

Up yours.

62 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:23:00 PM by Grunthor (RIDE THE CAIN TRAIN!)

You mean like quitting midway through?

LOL. Are you really going to bring up this pathetic weak tea of a liberal meme?

Palin still was elected (to 3 different offices I might add) and still ran a business. She has the perfect blend of private/public experience and that's far more than what Cain has.

68 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:27:19 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)

Look, I'm raising the race issue because if Cain was white he wouldn't even be mentioned, and you and I both know it. He has no elective office experience, that is my central point, that FReepers are pushing him because he's black, just as FReepers pushed Condi and Powell for President even though they have no elective office experience although both do have foreign policy experience but their moderate leanings also makes them unsupportable. Had Cain won his Senate race or won office somewhere I would have no problems with him running for President.

Now you can say that I support Palin simply because she's an attractive female BUT - Palin has almost 20 years of political experience plus she co-ran a small business as well. So there's no "affirmative action" in my support for Palin. She has the experience and she has taken Obama to the woodshed and the fact that she's an attractive and relatively young woman is merely a coincidence.

88 posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 3:45:21 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

Well tough, hardly any-one sells them anymore.

The legacy of Cain.

Too bad they couldn't make a pizza that was edible.

mikey_the_rat

They seem to think government should be run like a business...forgetting that most businesses can fail and governments can't. And a CEO can do all kinds of things to make a business look profitable...like downsizing/selling off assets to make the P/L better - but that might not be in the best interests of the shareholders or workers in the long run. But it might be very good for the CEO's compensation plan. Do we really want this kind of mentality used in making political decisions?

Wouldn't surprise me if Cain fits in this mold of that kind of 'successful' CEO. But it doesn't surprise me that the morons on FR seem to think running a pizza company somehow is proof that you can be POTUS. Afterall, they thought a grade B actor and a legacy flunkie would make good Presidents.

of 7,000 people and then being the half-term governor of a state with a lower population than Gwinnett county, GA is sufficient experience for the presidency for these ignorant fuckwits then I'm quitting my job and becoming a Republican politician.

Just have Rinse Prius send the RNC private jet to pick me up. Thanks!