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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:11 PM Original message |
The Obama Deception: Why Cornel West Went Ballistic |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. I know how he feels. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
485. What you said sabrina. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. Amen, brother. |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
380. +1,000 for brother West. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #380 |
464. Absolutely! He's been a hero of mine for a very long time! I used to videotape |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Speaking truth to power |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. “a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats." |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Trash the messenger, ignore the message |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Yes, |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. So nothing but ad hominem |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. There's |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
219. I'm sure he would have a similar opinion of yours. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #308 |
351. I know, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #351 |
356. Not necessarily KILL the bill |
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Johnny Morales (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #356 |
374. that's funny |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #354 |
357. Hmmmm? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #357 |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #372 |
382. And |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #382 |
458. Yep |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #458 |
474. Wait |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #474 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #372 |
454. "His criticism was spot on. " |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #454 |
459. Scrounging around for argument? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #459 |
477. Ah |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #477 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #490 |
501. Wow |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #501 |
507. Thank you for the compliment. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
442. He is full of shit. I'm sick of him. Ever seen Cornel West marching |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
567. hmm... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
200. You realize that this is all Cornell has, right? (ad hominems) n/t |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
272. Clownish? |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
482. Goose Stepping Democrats |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #482 |
505. And |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
214. The message isn't substantive. Why should the response be? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #280 |
329. He's my buddy |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
524. SSDD here on DU |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. What facts did he get wrong in the article? n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Facts? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks for the point by point refutation. Your facts sure do beat his. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
202. +9999, these "Oh, I was so deceived, he's so terrible" screeds are melodramatic bullshit. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #202 |
228. Obviously, Cornell "hates" Obama ... and wants a Pink Pony ... !!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #202 |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
203. Before, I'd say. nt. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
291. Thanks for that West excerpt. One of the most insightful things I've read |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
438. Should have known |
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DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Name ONE SINGLE thing that is incorrect in his statement |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "Name ONE SINGLE thing that is incorrect in his statement" |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Liberman WAS his mentor. You are supposed to be naming incorrect things, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Can |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. You were responding to a post that asked for incorrect statements. You had no examples. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
529. How much are you paid? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #529 |
562. No kidding. I have been thinking the same thing for a while. nt |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
309. identify any factually incorrect statements he is making. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #309 |
361. Calling people 'brother' is an idiomatic product of time and place and context... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #309 |
449. OMG, are you THAT unaware of common parlance?? |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. OMG...You're right |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Dylan sold millions more records and had more hits after he went electric. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #65 |
113. Therein lies the problem |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #113 |
125. No problem at all. Liberals know that the economy was better b/f centrism took hold. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #125 |
208. I don't disagree with you |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #208 |
403. Who on the left? |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #403 |
483. Really? Look at some of this from FDR's record and tell me some on DU wouldn't "knee-cap" him? |
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Prana69 (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:54 PM Response to Reply #125 |
252. I like your perspective but.... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #125 |
366. Centrism didn't take hold ever. We went from... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #366 |
536. I thought centrism was just DU speak for economic conservatism. N/t |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
305. Although of all the songs the electric Dylan wrote, none of them were as good as |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
62. He doesn't sound scorned to me. He sounds like someone |
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Knight Hawk (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
295. My guess would be.................. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #295 |
330. So much bullshit in one paragraph..... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #330 |
404. Um, with just a few shining moments, |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:29 AM Response to Reply #62 |
402. Yep |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
164. it sounds like Cornel needs to read "He's Just Not That Into You." n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #164 |
270. I don't think that's very flattering to President Obama! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #270 |
405. 2008 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #405 |
525. Yes, seems to be a pattern with him. Which is why I said |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #20 |
493. And there's the crux of this whole matter. Cornell's feelings are hurt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
217. Name one single thing that is correct in his statement |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Funny how critics suddenly become so stupid when your guy is in office. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Too true. And the behavior doesn't do anyone (even them) any good. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Forgive me |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Yes, I know-- critics like West should say only nice things. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Hey |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
105. Perspective is a subjective. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. Sharpton was always a great debater. You seem to be implying |
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SharksBreath (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #74 |
242. Travis lost credibility and was shunned. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #242 |
276. Tavis supported Hillary Clinton...... |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
311. Sharpton has more credibility? Really? |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
307. exactly. |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
140. Especially from West? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #140 |
183. Hmmmm? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
285. Vile words with no relation to reality... |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #285 |
325. racially-offensive tripe |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #285 |
353. Wrong! n/t |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:44 AM Response to Reply #285 |
407. Imagine for one minute that everything that has been said here |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #407 |
413. You are imagining 95% of that. |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
441. Rhetoric |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
389. +1 |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. Wow, he hit a nerve, didn't he? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
205. Doesnt it always when people post stupid stuff about people you like? n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
278. Hit a bunch of hyperbole bullshit that certain Liberals eat up..... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #278 |
408. I'm not so old that I can't remember that Obama's inauguration night |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
229. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
271. He's not the clown here. |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
287. thats the problem |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
400. Entirely wrong. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
415. i'd love to see you say that to his face. nt |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. Cornell West was inconsequential in 2008 and he will be again 2012... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. What facts did he get wrong in the article? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Thanks for the point by point refutation. Your facts sure do beat his. n/t |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. You're welcome... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Yes- your hard facts comparing West to "Keyboard warriors" was very enlightening. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. What exactly has he done the last three years to advance anything progressive? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I wondered whether West made any factually incorrect statements or not. Apparently he did not. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
206. I didn't see any factual assertions in his article. They were all emotional "I feel like..." kind of |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
204. You underestimate Dr. West |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #204 |
342. I suppose then this article is a mean to the end of promoting his own committee dude. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #342 |
345. Deleted message |
ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #204 |
343. Are you serious? |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #343 |
503. Serious as a heart attack |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #204 |
488. This is the most telling evidence that has been presented. It explains his intentions. |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #488 |
506. Hmmm, no, I think you have it almost backwards |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #506 |
566. Go back to Freeperville. You are full of it. |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
315. "None of these people on the Left offer up any answers".... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
255. Dr. West is a "Keyboard Warrior?" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
209. How do you refute opinions not tied to particular facts? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. Just where are you sitting right now?? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
87. Geithner and Summers are "dramatic change?" West is a "little" man? |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
107. Hmm. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
145. the trouble is that Obama is NOT working to change anything |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #145 |
261. We who voted for him thought we'd have a President who would Lead...Democratic Party... |
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2banon (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #261 |
319. We didn't expect Obama to throw the game to the other team right off the bat |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #319 |
555. +1 |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #145 |
312. +1000 nt |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
174. Well put! |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
218. I take it you don't know much about |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #218 |
377. Princeton, eh? West is obviously conspiring with Krugman!!!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Exactly right... |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
158. Cornell West has an enormous ego. Likely angry because he does not |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #158 |
178. West has |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. Summers let West walk from Harvard University instead of giving in to West. nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
504. You may be right, Cornell West (whoever he is) may be irrelevant. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
533. now, i'm no master debater but... |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
9. k/r rec. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. Cornel got something right....... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I love Harry Belafonte's response to Obama, recounted on Amy's show today. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Amy aired the interview today. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Maybe, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. 'Way to go off topic. Well done. n/t |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
143. want to "fan the flames" then hey-look at what the Pres. ISN'T doing today |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #143 |
173. "relax, he can take it." |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. The political reality remains...... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. If you believe Harry Belafonte and Cornel West won't be remembered by history |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
409. Yeah, that was a bit over the top there |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
440. +1 |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. It's true that elected Presidents have more power than professors & calypso singers. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Is that true? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. In each case, they had to demand and then wait for politicians to follow thier lead. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Looking at it from another angle, social movements transcend |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Good points. I think we are basically on the same page. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
109. I think we are. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. Well, they certainly won't be remembered for all the people they |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Comes with the job one takes as President already engaged in two wars at the time..... |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
129. Those lucky to still draw breath can complain, criticize and condemn |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. Don't take Ben Franklin's quote so personally, |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
186. Murder is OK. Everyone does it. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
410. Obama will be remembered for one person he had killed |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. The political reality remains that Obama freely choose Geithner, Summers, Vilsack, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
156. You said it. Except for Bush. He wouldn't blush. Mass murderers don't blush. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
93. Damn right. It was Lincoln who freed the slaves - |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. What Harriet Tubman do was called activism........ |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. So if Cornell had said all this while leading a massive march, all would be cool? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #104 |
119. What has Cornell done while sitting around, exactly? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #119 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #132 |
146. The difference is that no one kisses my ass.....and pays me for it. |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
149. My guess is you're absoluetly right. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Wrong. Harriet Tubman ran her mouth plenty |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. +1,000,000 n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #108 |
120. She wrote her autobiography....... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Writing an autobiography is an action. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. LOL! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Does that chorus line of straw men sing or dance or do anything interesting at all? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. Straw men...... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #141 |
414. No, actually it is a term discussing argument fallacies |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #131 |
335. No. n/t |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
154. & Frederick Douglass was no activist either |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #154 |
165. Why don't we throw in all of the Black people who ever did anything..... |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #165 |
198. I guess Obama was pretty happy with West |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #165 |
375. WHO is throwing black people under the bus?? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:07 AM Response to Reply #375 |
418. You forgot to mention that she believes herself to be a left liberal, |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:03 AM Response to Reply #165 |
417. You totally missed the point |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #165 |
471. This attempt to deny a voice to West is getting pretty icky. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #108 |
332. I was just thinking that, thanks for saying it. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #108 |
412. And thank goodness for that |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
148. So what Dr. West is doing/has done isn't activism? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #148 |
166. Now we are comparing West to Gandhi and MLK! OMFG! |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #166 |
358. Your reading comprehension needs vast improvement, or is it conflation? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
122. The president is middle-aged, he's not a kid. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #122 |
150. Twistin'......... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #150 |
199. Actually I don't really care who people remember, that is not my |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #199 |
222. Ok.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #222 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #240 |
256. That's what you say from your chair...... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #256 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #262 |
274. Well, you can think that...... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #222 |
288. I think it's very unfair of you to focus on his race. One of the many |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #288 |
304. The issue is whether he will get into the history books...... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #304 |
365. Of course he'll get into the history books, he's a US president. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #304 |
423. It would have been a thousand times better had he been a good President |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #222 |
420. He didn't catch him, he had him killed |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:41 AM Response to Reply #222 |
429. That isn't even close to being the same |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:08 AM Response to Reply #150 |
419. Day o, I would guess |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:20 AM Response to Reply #122 |
370. Actually, he was. The Banana Boat Song was a HUGE hit in 1956. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #370 |
523. Yes, I have been informed of that. He is a wonderful |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
72. +1 Thought of that line, too. Thank heaven for Belafonte and West. n/t |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
78. Obama did a lot before he got into politics and he will after |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. It's true that elected Presidents have more power than professors & calypso singers. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Belafonte was instrumental in getting Obama's dad to the US. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
92. Thank you and 2nd all of that to the nth power (n/t) |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
139. + 300 million |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
238. Wow! comments by Cornell ... but I was also watching BELAFONTE tonight on Amy Goodman...!! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
279. I listened to that Belafonte interview tonight. It's well worth watching.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #279 |
371. Both Belafonte and West are involved with the pan Africa movement |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
284. I don't think that Obama really identfies with Civil Rights Movement or Black people or Agrarian |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
362. +1 million |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
411. Nice post. |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
543. "What makes you think we haven’t?" |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Ouch. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
317. That's crap -- that's blaming the victim. Obama promised a lot of |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
29. "But it became very clear when I looked at the neoliberal economic team." |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
227. I never take anyone seriously who uses the term "Neoliberal" nor should anyone else |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:46 PM Response to Reply #227 |
247. .... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #227 |
297. It makes no difference whether or not neoliberals label themselves as such. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #297 |
367. You clearly do not understand what I was saying. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #367 |
509. Neither does the rest of The World (understamd what you are saying). |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #227 |
326. thats silly |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #326 |
368. Yup. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:27 AM Response to Reply #368 |
424. Well, then, I guess I will get your ire for continuing to call |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #424 |
561. You will be in the same category as those on the right who use similar tactics... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:42 AM Response to Reply #227 |
406. Why? Are you saying because people don't call themselves that, |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #227 |
451. "Rude"? What are we, Miss Manners here? It's been years now; was West WRONG? |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. Wow. I read the article and what is clear to me is that... |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I don't think that was very fair |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. What of people who agree with West on some level, minus any snubbing or hurt feelings? |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
170. Easy: those are damn Libruls/Lefties who are unwanted & unneeded |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Can you possibly fit more off-topic ad hominem attacks into that many words? |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
175. I thinkit's the level they're in, which colors their perceptions |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #175 |
338. Or let us borrow their dreamy lunchbox with the president's picture on it. n/t |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
239. +111 |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
321. No where did I say he was acting like a jilted lover... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
337. No. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
328. Save your armchair psychoanalysis for someone else... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. k&mfr |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. "Who the &$*# else 'ya gonna vote for, chumps?" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Maybe |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Too late now - the incumbent gets all of the cash |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Another |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Since West cant defeat Obama in a primary, nothing he says has any merit. |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
266. West is helping organize a primary against Obama |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
379. It's a thuggish might makes right argument. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Yup-Since West cant defeat Obama in a primary, nothing he says has any merit. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
421. Exactly............nt |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
432. Cat Food Commission!..SQUAWK! nt |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
54. The Obama dilema was well described in Ellul's "The Political Illusion" decades ago. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. And the bureaucracies are the corporate state. We don't really have a government. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. That's the first alarm that went off for me as well. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
66. Cornel West is my fucking hero |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. +1 |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. So what heroic act has Cornel West performed? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. The same acts that any other non-elected voters perform? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Poster called Cornel West his "fucking hero"....... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. I answered the question you asked. He perfomed the same acts that any good citizen voter does. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #98 |
126. Well actually some folks do more in terms of directly affecting |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #126 |
136. Don't be a hater, Frenchie. (nt) |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #136 |
151. I gave up asking you to do the same long ago. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #136 |
316. +++++++++! nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. West does very similar things. Then again, both are far left radicals. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
157. Sorry, but Cornel West ain't remotely at par with Harriet Tubman..... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
538. You don't need to tear down West to build up Tubman. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
230. A hero is something exceptional, not something that every other good anything does. n/t |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:32 AM Response to Reply #90 |
428. That's kind of like asking why Ghandi is someones hero, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. He started fighting for civil rights when he was in high school. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Some people consider speaking truth to power openly to be a heroic act. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
102. Telling the truth about a popular politician is pretty fucking heroic these days. nt |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
177. Lotsa medals to pin on just at DU then...... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #177 |
231. All of us, since we all criticized Bush when his popularity was over 50%. I dont buy it |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #177 |
364. better to keep your eyes wide open than be blinded by that hopey chaangey thing..nt |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
106. Oh, you know... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Some hero. West is just a circus clown begging for a the pony he will never get. WAHHH!!!!! |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
124. My sarcasm detector |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #80 |
160. Sticking with his convictions...unlike the POTUS. n/t |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
221. is that the new criteria for leveling criticism? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
318. Trufe to Powr... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
260. +1 |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
363. I respect Dr West and ALL that he has stood for over the decades |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #66 |
425. Don't worry, Mr. West is a strong man and he is right |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #66 |
426. Don't worry, Mr. West is a strong man and he is right |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
456. The Enemies List gets longer & more ridiculous every day. Cornel West has "sour grapes?" Really? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. Clearly he just wants a President Palin. He was used by Obama. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. He clearly wants the Koch Brothers to have tax cut extensions too! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Sometimes I wonder about those who get to determine who has integrity...... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. That's a good question for you to ask considering |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. "without knowing anything about him." |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. LOL |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Yeah, it's funny |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
188. ProSense, let me tell you what I think is really pissing Mr. West off-- |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #188 |
273. Points for creativity to discredit Mr. West - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #273 |
352. Thank you for making my point-- |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:19 AM Response to Reply #352 |
433. Re "still under investigation by the FEC" - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #433 |
450. The investigation of Sharpton's 2004 bid--fine levied in April, 2009 |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
225. i can only speak for myself when i say i haven't murdered anybody with a drone attack |
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TMED (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #225 |
251. I haven't murdered anybody, via any means, at all |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
99. K & R for Cornel West (n/t) |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. I (heart) Cornel. |
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Howler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
110. K&R |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
112. Lieberman was Obama's mentor? What? When? Where? how? Lieberman? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #112 |
138. Joe was Obama's mentor in the Senate. West has his facts straight. n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #138 |
155. I did not know that. Wasn't questioning West, simply our national judgment..... |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
162. One of the most liberal Senators in the Senate is Rand Paul's mentor. nt |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
116. I have one question for Mr. West |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. Where were you? I don't remember someone shutting them up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #116 |
128. Cornel West has been organizing people to speak up for decades. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #128 |
168. Where are they? Where were they last November? Where was West leading up to the election. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #168 |
182. Um, the progressive caucus did fine. Obama and the blue dogs lost |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #182 |
193. Conquest is deep blue states. How manly and womanly. Like it or not, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #193 |
235. You speak as if continual caving to the right wing affects only progressives. |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #235 |
249. Caving??? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #249 |
444. The most progressive bills since the New Deal were passed by Lyndon Johnson, |
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maxrandb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #182 |
234. Ummmm |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #234 |
369. Now THERE's some revisionist history for you. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #369 |
460. Plus putting Tim Kaine in charge. He was a disaster. Didn't |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #234 |
397. Glad to see |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
163. Touche!!! nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #116 |
282. I heard West in a debate with a teabagger on TV back then |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
522. The man's chosen occupation is as a scholar. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
133. "I couldn’t get a ticket with my mother and my brother. I said this is very strange." |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #133 |
169. A common man got a ticket to the inaugural but a prima donna did not get one. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #133 |
241. Interesting .... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #241 |
517. It is because neither me nor my whole damn family had the slightest difficulty |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #517 |
518. Presume that if someone had been as active as Cornell was for Obama ... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
134. Thank you, Dr. West. Nt |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
142. knr |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
144. He's been down on Obama for some time now |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #144 |
171. You tagged Cornell West on the money. I can't stand to watch the |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
323. Nailed it. |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
147. K&R n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
152. He and I share the realization. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
153. He didn't get his pony. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #153 |
179. Correction..... |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #153 |
293. Actually, you could delete that sarcasm thingy... |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
159. Dramatic choice of words |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
161. Its time the President faces reality |
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Agony (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
167. Sometimes the truth hurts. Thankfully West isn't shy about the truth. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #167 |
185. i think fdr called the same people out during his presidency. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
172. K&R. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
176. Yup, that's it. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #176 |
194. delete |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
180. Deleted message |
Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #180 |
189. Bingo!! We have a winner!! Unrec. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #189 |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #180 |
215. Yep. UnRec. And I had the unrec feature. n/t |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #180 |
336. I'm so glad to see you back! |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
181. i was fooled by his speeches and i`m old enough to know better. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
184. wrong spot. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
187. No Sympathy for West Or Anyone Else Who Propped Obama While Clinton Was Being Treated Like Shit |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #187 |
191. Ooh look! Its the primaries! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #191 |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. LMAO, did you just call someone on the internet who disagrees with you a "shock troop"? n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #211 |
226. Poster still stuck at the "Clinton didn't win the Primary" part of their life history..... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #226 |
236. Poster Stuck On Making Ad Hominem Attacks As and On Anonymous Internet Posters |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #226 |
268. Especially since absolutely NOTHING would have been different whether Clinton |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:05 AM Response to Reply #211 |
437. No, I Just Called Someone Who Harrasses Others a "Shock Troop" |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #187 |
192. Those who "propped him up" don't need your sympathy and |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #187 |
232. "and racism that was used against Clinton" |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #187 |
535. Someone's still angry that Hillary wasn't the nominee. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
195. "Ballistic"? I thought it was more "Critical" than "Ballistic" |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. "Ballistic" is the text equivalent of the "Dean Scream". nt |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #197 |
201. Gotchya |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
196. It is interesting that Cornel gets hit with the same tired attacks as Nader. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #196 |
216. Maybe it's because he supported Nader in 2000 |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. We disagree. |
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SanchoPanza (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
210. West is like a lot of activists. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #210 |
233. +9999, everything is easy for the person who doesnt have to do it. n/t |
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nobodyspecial (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #210 |
254. Can't tell people here though |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
213. "I have been misled" As have we all, my friend, as have we all. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:55 PM Response to Reply #213 |
253. I find that it is much easier to be a victim |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #253 |
259. The problem with the "armchair quarterback" defense... |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #253 |
540. Ya know, after the election in 2008, I felt like a winner. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
223. Is West really this naive? Or is he deliberately overlooking the context |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #223 |
237. it's based on West's statements of 3 or 4 months ago.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
224. K/R -- |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
243. I can relate to his reaction about Geithner and Summers, I too believed there was a chance for |
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SharksBreath (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
245. Obama: Presided over the most draconian crackdown on leaks in our history -- even more so than Nixon |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #245 |
250. Hmmmm? |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:26 PM Response to Reply #250 |
340. Love it |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
246. K&R |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
248. K/R For this paragraph alone, |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #248 |
547. +1 |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
257. BIG-TIME REC. nt |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
258. It is amazing how articles like these can be built on delusion on top of delusion on top of delusion |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #258 |
263. He doesn't say "evil corporate oligarch" so much as feckless puppet. nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #263 |
313. Obamer...the Manchurian Candidate!1!!!!!11 |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #263 |
314. More like "Mr. Go along to Get Along". nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #258 |
269. The fascinating thing is |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #269 |
277. Exactly. If anyone thinks that West would not be saying the exact same thing about ANY Democratic |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #258 |
339. I have an idea |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:04 AM Response to Reply #339 |
392. Simple. He claims Obama is not progressive. |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:11 AM Response to Reply #392 |
393. Ummm |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #393 |
531. That's funny, since he supported ESCALATING the war in Afghanistan in the campaign, yet plenty of |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
264. Well, Cornel, a lot of us were misled. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #264 |
283. West has been shitting on Obama since October of 2008....... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:23 PM Response to Reply #283 |
289. I know the "discredit machine" is going at warp speed right now - |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #289 |
302. Don't read then..... |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:25 AM Response to Reply #302 |
434. That is about the time I started having doubts as well - |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
265. This is the Absolute Reality this Political Party has to come to Terms with |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #265 |
292. +1,000. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
281. Sad to say...Professor West is reaching irrelevant, irrational buffoon status. |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #281 |
300. West is absolutely right. I heard Obama say in a live speech in which I shook |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #300 |
306. Yeah, you didn't get everything you wanted, when you wanted it. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #306 |
324. Fine, there were some progressive gains(the most important things were always pissed down to nothing |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #324 |
500. Amen, well said. nt |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #306 |
499. I didn't get ANYTHING I wanted, except the repeal of DADT, |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
286. k&r |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
290. Deleted message |
jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #290 |
298. Your post reeks with irony... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #290 |
299. Hmmmm? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #299 |
303. The more I read West's words, the "sicker" I become. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #290 |
320. West's fanboys and fangirls are doing fine in this thread anyways..... |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
294. "Oh, my God, I have really been misled at a very deep level." |
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Bluesbreaker (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
296. This is a surprise? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #296 |
301. Do you have any actual evidence that "most progressives" are suffering from buyer's remorse? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #301 |
484. Deleted message |
nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #296 |
472. We won't have economic reform until the backs of the billionaires are broke |
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Timbuk3 (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
310. Choose one. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
322. Deleted message |
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327. Deleted sub-thread |
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331. Deleted sub-thread |
JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #322 |
333. Not actually coming from many, you'll notice. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #322 |
344. Clearly, hating on the pointy-headed interlekchuls is not just for freepers anymore. n/t |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #344 |
550. +1 |
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bluerum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
334. Whoa. What a tour de force. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
341. Deleted message |
Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
346. Here we go again. Obama has not done anything right and mcCain should have won. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #346 |
373. Crock. |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #373 |
422. here is one particular sentence that was easy to find among all the others like it |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #422 |
462. Please read closer. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
347. K & R |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
348. This post actually has 251 recommendations. |
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peace4ever (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #348 |
349. reminds me of one of my favorite quotes... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #348 |
350. Deleted sub-thread |
NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #348 |
436. So Sorry You Feel That Way |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #348 |
473. Deleted message |
Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #348 |
478. Do you get extra points for high recs? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
355. K&R Democrats who ignore such criticism do so at their electoral and moral peril. |
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Turn CO Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
359. This is my favorite dessert recipe! |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #359 |
430. Why post a "Plantation House" recipe for chocolate here? nt |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #359 |
480. Can you add liqueur to this? nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #359 |
516. I'll bet you love the plantation house... |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
360. K & R, but with great sadness because I know exactly what he means. |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
376. Unless you can present..... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
378. Deleted message |
DontTreadOnMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #378 |
383. Obama is layer? |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
381. K & R |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
384. An excellent analysis, |
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Tripod (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
385. Cornel West is Brilliant. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
386. Mr. West is just another person who did not pay attention |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #386 |
388. I don't think so. If you look at Belafonte's comments carefully, |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #388 |
391. I listened carefully, and decided he WOULD be rght, far right of Clinton |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #391 |
445. I think you think Clinton was farther to the left than I do. n/t |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
387. 'I was thinking maybe he has at least some progressive populist instincts' |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
390. Of course you must never let facts get in the way |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #390 |
394. Is this supposed to be serious? |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #394 |
520. It seems your fact detector is faulty |
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carincross (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
395. Kudos to Chris Hedges |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #395 |
416. When did Hedges become an Alex Jones acolyte? |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
396. As soon as POTUS Obama began making appointments, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 03:20 AM Response to Reply #396 |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:18 AM Response to Original message |
399. K&R |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
401. I hear you, Cornell |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
427. Kicking |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
431. K & R |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
435. I suppose that West was deceived |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #435 |
439. He wasn't deceived |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #439 |
455. I thought not |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #435 |
453. Obama ran on change. n/t |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #453 |
461. Not easy |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #435 |
542. I just shake my head when I read about what is "possible and practical" |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #542 |
565. Difficult |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
446. Cornel West and Cynthia Mckinney for the Green Party Presidential nomination in 2012? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #446 |
467. Grayson/Greenwald/Cornel in 2012! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
447. This post actually has 333 recommendations |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #447 |
466. So rather than discounting it as "I want my pony-ism", it should be taken seriously. nt |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #447 |
468. Bieber sold like 5,000,000 cds last year. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #468 |
475. By that standard only Bieber should get to speak. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #447 |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
448. Powerful because TRUE. |
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That Guy 888 (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
452. When did "Yes We Can" get replaced with "it's not practical" Recc'd |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #452 |
463. When did... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #463 |
486. That's just silly. nt |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
457. Slam dunk,. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #457 |
465. One man's slam dunk |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
469. But...he never really supported Obama anyway |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
470. Dr. Cornel West Jones is correct. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
476. Kick for Dr. West. |
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wysingm (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
479. garbage in garbage out |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
487. Kicked and recommended. nt |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
491. Many progressives understood this during the election. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #491 |
510. THAT was the first Slap in the Face. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
492. This is |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
494. Oh, man. Coming from Dr. West, this really stings. nt |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
495. +1 |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
497. that is true - but in a country where 46% of the populace think Obama is too liberal |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #497 |
508. Those 46% will not be moved by truth or actual events |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #508 |
513. I'm certainly not justifying Obama's right-wing politics and I absolutely agree |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
498. +100 for the good doctor's excellent analysis. nt |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
502. I don't understand why there's so much rancor over this article... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #502 |
519. +50 million times infinity times 50 gazillion! |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #519 |
554. A plateful of red herrings |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
511. Deleted message |
Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
512. The truth riles people up |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #512 |
553. "truth" |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
514. k&r |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
515. i missed all the fun. damn it. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #515 |
521. Yes, |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
526. West nailed it! |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #526 |
546. I think he would have preferred not to have had to. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
527. All I hear is West working harder at bashing Obama than getting a progressive congress. I think West |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #527 |
532. You obviously know nothing about West |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #532 |
541. +1 |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
528. Hope and change |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #528 |
549. A slogan. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
530. Cornel West v. Barack Obama |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #530 |
544. Deleted message |
Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
534. K&R |
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JoeyTrib (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
537. Cornell West is right, of course. |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
539. k & r n/t |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
545. This thread is a flamewar of extraordinary magnitude! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
548. Deleted message |
Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
551. Dr. West has become his own worst enemy.. |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
552. many mistake what obama wants to do with what he can do |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
556. Too late for recommend but Obama certainly has catered to the |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
557. kick, and wish i could stil rec. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
558. Interesting to compare this thread to the one in GDP on Melissa Harris-Perry |
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Texano78704 (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #558 |
559. +1 |
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akbacchus_BC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-17-11 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
560. Oh Cornell West and Tavis Smiley, Jealous to the core and bring |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-18-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
563. Welcome to the list Cornel.. Let Cindy & Ralph buy you a beer. |
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