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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:29 PM
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According to the State Dept., you are anti-American if you believe the following:
-- Reaffirming the necessity of resolving all conflicts
non-violently;

-- Emphasizing the importance of respecting the unity,
sovereignty, and independence of Iraq, and not interfering in
its internal processes;

-- Commiting to implementing all UN resolutions
non-selectively;

-- Expressing profound worries over the unilateral sanctions
the United States imposed on Syria;

-- Recognizing the need for protection of intellectual
property, but not when it affects national development,
especially in terms of national health policies;

-- Emphasizing the need to eliminate distortions (subsidies)
in agriculture, which impede developed nations from
exploiting comparative advantages;

-- Welcoming the recent entry into force of the Kyoto
Agreement, and calling on the international community to
better protect the global climate.

http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2005/04/05QUITO834.html#par4
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:31 PM
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1. Should I turn myself in now or
just report to gitmo??
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:37 PM
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2. It's pretty bizarre.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:39 PM
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4. Read the cable again...
before you jump to conclusions.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:41 PM
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16. I'll just enjoy feeling like an outlaw and revolutionary.
Of course, I've felt like that since the early 60s, so big woop.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:38 PM
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3. You need to read the cable again...
By no means do the United States and Israel get off easy.
Anti-American digs include:

-- Reaffirming the necessity of resolving all conflicts
non-violently;

-- Emphasizing the importance of respecting the unity,
sovereignty, and independence of Iraq, and not interfering in
its internal processes;

-- Commiting to implementing all UN resolutions
non-selectively;

-- Expressing profound worries over the unilateral sanctions
the United States imposed on Syria;

-- Recognizing the need for protection of intellectual
property, but not when it affects national development,
especially in terms of national health policies;

-- Emphasizing the need to eliminate distortions (subsidies)
in agriculture, which impede developed nations from
exploiting comparative advantages;

-- Welcoming the recent entry into force of the Kyoto
Agreement, and calling on the international community to
better protect the global climate.


Those are actually digs at American positions by Ecuador.

Nice shoot-first, ask-questions-later.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:43 PM
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5. also dated six years ago
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:44 PM
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:44 PM
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6. Not quite, the State Dept. believed that a declaration emerging from a summit
of South American & Arab leaders containing those sentiments would be anti-American.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:46 PM
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8. Which is spectacularly different from your OP....
Are you a "South American or Arab" leader?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:48 PM
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9. Yes.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:50 PM
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10. So, is the State Deparrtment proposing standards by which...
Americans should be deemed "anti-American"?

Hint: No. At the very least, your OP is stunningly misleading.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:54 PM
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11. So I can personally believe the following,
-- Reaffirming the necessity of resolving all conflicts
non-violently;

-- Emphasizing the importance of respecting the unity,
sovereignty, and independence of Iraq, and not interfering in
its internal processes;


And be a patriot but if an Arab or South American leader believes in either, they are anti-American?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 03:56 PM
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12. Do you understand the difference between...
anti-American and un-American?

You have distorted this cable out of any resemblance to the facts.
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reorg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:49 PM
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13. How dare they take positions differing from those of a Republican administration?
And how dare you quote the cable literally, thus completely distorting what it actually says? LOL.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:52 PM
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14. It isn't "literally" when....
someone leaves out the oart that provides conrext. It's called "clipping the quote".
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 05:04 PM
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15. we used to call that communist tendencies
Edited on Mon May-16-11 05:17 PM by Enrique
yes, you removed some context, but you seem to be making a point and I agree with it.

And by the way, for a country like Ecuador, being considered by the U.S. to be "anti-American" can have serious consequences. It's not just calling them a name.


Here's an example of the consequences. Be an "anti-US government", and you can be subject to our military's "full spectrum operations"

This is a from a Navy document talking about the proposed U.S. military bases in Colombia:

http://justf.org/blog/2009/11/04/us-colombia-defense-cooperation-agreement

(...)

...Development of this CSL provides a unique opportunity for full spectrum operations in a critical sub region of our hemisphere where security and stability is under constant threat from narcotics funded terrorist insurgencies, anti-US governments, endemic poverty and recurring natural disasters....

(...)
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