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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:18 AM
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Did Fracking cause the bird and fish kill in Arkansas?
I ran into a map of the Fayetteville Shale in a Daily Kos diary comment here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/3/933137/-Fish-die,-birds-drop-from-sky;-nothing-to-see-here

It would appear that one common factor that both Ozark, Ar. and Beebe, Ar. have is being in or very close to the Fayetteville Shale. Beebe is in White County. Ozark is in Franklin County.



curiouser and curiouser.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:24 AM
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1. Interesting.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:24 AM
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2. Sounds like a better explanation than lightning, a hail storm
or a wind storm. They used to use canaries in the coal mine to detect gas in the old days.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:25 AM
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3. Highly doubt it. That would be some pretty targeted fracking.
A flock of red wing blackbirds and one species of fish? Where are the other deaths?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:26 AM
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4. I thought I saw other species of birds also.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:31 AM
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5. Evidence please. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:32 AM
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6. I saw a picture on MSNBC. There was a bird that wasn't a redwinged blackbird.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:37 AM
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8. Grackles and starlings.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/01/03/us/AP-US-ODD-Dead-Birds.html?_r=2&ref=aponline
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:41 AM
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10. Interesting; "Those species roost with blackbirds,.."
Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 12:42 AM by greyl
A few grackles and a couple of starlings were also among the dead. Those species roost with blackbirds, particularly in winter.

"They died from massive trauma," said Game and Fish Commission spokesman Keith Stephens, citing a report from the state poultry lab where the birds were examined. The injuries were primarily in the breast tissue, with blood clotting and bleeding in the body cavities.

Residents heard loud fireworks just before the birds started hitting the ground.

"They started going crazy, flying into one another," Stephens said. The birds apparently also hit homes, trees and other objects, and some could have been killed by flying hard into the ground.

www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/01/03/us/AP-US-ODD-Dead-Birds.html?_r=2&ref=aponline
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:53 AM
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11. Still, different species. They flock together. We see them in the spring here.
Grackles are very very different from the redwings. Plus the size of both the fish and bird kills was quite large. I suspect there was bleeding in the body cavities after they hit the ground. The toxicology is still pending. Is it a conincidence or related? I don't know. But, there is at least one connection between the towns other than both being in Arkansas.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 03:11 AM
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16. Right, true. They were both definitely very local events.
I don't think fracking is a reasonable explanation.
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PhillySane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:33 AM
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7. Arkansas has had a lot of seismic activity
in the last few months. 500 registered tremors. They are looking into whether or not the waste disposal of the drilling process has caused this. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that something was connected with one or the other. The birds could have been startled by a tremor and flew into a hail storm lets say. Fish being killed by poisonous runoff is also a possibility. It's worth watching and keeping an eye on, especially if you live in a state where they're drilling a lot, like I do.
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IMATB Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 12:39 AM
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9. No
Because if that had anything to do with shale, we would have seen it in other places.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:05 AM
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12. State vet: Birds died of blunt trauma to organs
http://www.kspr.com/news/local/kspr-state-vet-birds-died-of-blunt-01032011,0,5475189.story

He was on NPR saying that probably the birds were startled by fireworks and then flew into things in the dark.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:11 AM
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13. That seems...unlikely. At any rate, how can they know the trauma wasn't from hitting the GROUND?
:shrug:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:15 AM
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14. Maybe the Navy is conducting ultrasonic wave tests in the area.
Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 01:15 AM by Lucian
via ELF rays.

http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Drive

:shrug:
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 03:12 AM
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17. It was the firecrackers I tell ya
What a crock.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 09:11 AM
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18. +1
That firecracker story is serious BS!
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:51 AM
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15. self del
Edited on Tue Jan-04-11 01:55 AM by snagglepuss
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 10:42 AM
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19. I'm convinced it's Gawwwwd, sending a message to the "christians"
they are on the wrong path...It's just a theory.
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