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The Northerner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:13 AM Original message |
Another Too-Fat-To-Fly Controversy Hits Southwest Airlines |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. If you can't fit in the seat provided, whether thru size or weight, then buy an .. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. A last-minute fare is exponentially more expensive. |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I see it more as an economic fairness thing. If a Man is 6'6' 340 lbs.. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. "Bigots towards the fat" |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. I'd like to use 100% of my seat, too |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. "climbing over me to use the restroom" |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. I get up every time |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
77. thanks |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
54. You do get twice the frequent flier miles if you buy two seats. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. My information is different |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. When the airlines reseat someone in your second seat |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Maybe you could give Kevin Smith a call |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
69. Feel free to do all those things |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Did they make her pay that last minute foare or what she paid for the |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I don't see any problem with the policy, but there IS such a thing |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Of course, there's no excuse for being rude and hurtful. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Part of the deal is the size of a airplane seat |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Oh...I agree....I went to Australia last October and I felt like a damn sardine. I'm..... |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. For me, it's an issue of shoulder room, not leg room |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
76. What you say is true...very True. n/t |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Yes, I am a 5'5" woman of average weight, and those seats are TOO small. |
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cleanhippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Stop that right now. Common sense is not allowed. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. Personally, I think airlines should charge by the pound - |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Wow. no words. nt |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
66. I agree. Shaming a person to lose weight by weighing her in front of other passengers? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Saying people who take up two seats should consider losing weight or buying the second seat |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. That's basically what they do with air freight. |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. It doesn't seem it matters much to the companies, either. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
61. How dare you call me freight! I perfer cattle. |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 06:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Or simply pass through an opening the width of a standard seat |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. Sheesh! These schemes to solve problems are inhumane and yet you concoct them |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Weighing your bags... |
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Tracer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. This actually happens! |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Yes, there is. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. i think they should just charge you more |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
4. As someone who has been feeling claustrophobic in planes recently |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. A lot of planes now are booked full. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. That is why I pray they were considerate enough to do so. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. +1 |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. +1e9 |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. Compared to most airlines |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That IS really generous, I must say. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Southwest is the only airline with room for my knees |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. A few years ago I flew overseas on Malaysian Airlines in coach. |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Yep. The Asian airlines in particular tend to pack people like sardines. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. Having flown all the way to South Africa next to a woman of atleast 400 pounds... |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:23 AM Response to Original message |
16. Let this be a wake-up call that people need to lose weight and live healthy. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. +1 n/t |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Dunno about all that... |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
67. I agree. The anti-fat bigotry really bothers me. Do we really need to shame people? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. You know what else is unfair? Paying for a full seat and only being able to use 3/4s of it. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Yup...if you pay for a seat you should be able to use that seat, not be squished |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Really? Then every middle seat should automatically be discounted by 1/2 |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. You can ask people to stop doing that if they are physically able to contain |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Why should the middle seat passenger have to ask? That person paid for the seat |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. You have to ask because people are not considerate... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. If you have to ask, chances are good that the person will start harrumphing |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. No doubt about that...flying used to be fun...now it's something to endure...nt |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
73. While it's certainly true that no one, ever, has at any point complained about children on airplanes |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. What about tall people? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
72. Only if armrests constituted half the entire seat and you were not allowed to use either |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Middle seat occupants can't expand into the aisle or lean against the window like their neighbors. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
26. Weight and Balance... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. What an interesting and educational post. Your post is the reason I still read DU. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. When passenger flight was new, passengers were weighed |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
59. That's how my Aunt started out... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
95. I took a Skywest puddle jumper once and they told us the seats wouldn't be assigned |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. That's the basic it works. :) nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
28. If a passenger cannot fit in a seat with the armrests down, a second seat must be purchased." |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. That seems fair enough |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. My son in 6', 170 pounds |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I'm 6'1" and 200 pounds and I fit in the seats just fine. No need to exaggerate your story |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. He has some of the broadest shoulders I've seen personally. |
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anneboleyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Really? My husband is 6'3" - he doesn't fit at all, too tall and his limbs poke everyone around him |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I am 6'1", 215# and have broad shoulders, too. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. I'm 6'2" and 190. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. I'm 5' 11",. 195 lbs |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. My problem is with the "you should be charged more if you don't fit the seat" |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. The seat is 18", then you have an armrest on both sides.. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Seems perfectly fair to me... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
40. we all place different priorities on different things... |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
82. I agree. I've been squeezed by the plump and the muscle-bound at one time or another, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
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mentalsolstice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
44. Have a sample seat... |
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
48. This policy is horrible, unless the large person is sitting next to me - then it's ok. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I think the word "right" is thrown around quite wrongly these days... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #60 |
93. Rights are what you have |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Incorrect. Rights are written into law. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
75. The crux of the problem is that they cram too damn many people on the planes. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
83. Looks like no one bothered to read the rest of the article. This was a return flight... |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
84. I love how people bitch about the seats, that were installed in the 80's |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. What percentage of planes are flying that were operated in the 1980s? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. late 80's , early 90's |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. you said 1980's and the average age is far newer than that |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. and you look at the average |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. when were 747's introduced? |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Only thing I can see about seats getting smaller (if that is indeed the point here) |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
101. the seats in question weren't installed in the 1980's |
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Travelman (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. It really doesn't matter when the seats were installed |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
86. Omg, people should suck it up. My last flight was 12+ hours next to a very obese woman. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
88. These situations just suck... |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
96. I hate that sinking feeling when the amply proportioned person is coming down the aisle |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
100. Some posts here reveal that some take a lot of delight at the prospect of punishing fat people |
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