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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:20 AM
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Idaho family held at gunpoint, robbed, so defendent could get $500.00 to circumcise baby.
http://www.kxly.com/news/27936669/detail.html

This story has everything. Guns, circumcision. Sadly, no breastfeeding in Olive Garden though.

So what do people think? Is this man a villain? A hero? A victim of a stingy medical system that doesn't want to pay for unneccessary surgeries? Did he do something bad, but understandable given the situation? Should the family have just generously coughed up the money, seeing it was for a good cause? Is this an instance where guns can be truly useful?

Not trying to start a flame war (well okay, maybe I am). Just wondering what people think.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:29 AM
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1. Hopefully the intact child will oneday have a helluva story about how he almost lost part of his
penis, but was saved by one of the strangest series of events one could think of.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:47 AM
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2. Villian. The only life you may put your belief system ahead of...
...is your own.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:59 AM
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3. Call me cynical, but I'm betting he wanted the $500 for crystal meth.
If it was really about circumcising his baby, he could have done it himself with a sharp rock or a kitchen knife. That's how most of the ancient worshippers of that one local Middle-eastern war god known for having that particular bizarre and unsavory fetish did it, after all.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:23 AM
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13. That, or just failure to think outside the box.
I've read plenty of accounts of people doing it on their kitchen table with an exacto knife. There's no reason why a person living in the modern world couldn't do it with a bit of equipment from a hardware store and some rubbing alcohol. Sure, it's not ideal, but it's certainly better than what they had in OT times when they were doing it with sharpened rocks, and they mostly did okay.

It's not like he'd be in any worse legal trouble if he got caught, which he probably wouldn't be if he can manage a modicum of physical coordination.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:05 AM
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4. Sounds Like A Second-Rate Rip-Off Of "Dog Day Afternoon"
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:11 AM
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12. More like "Raising Arizona" gone bad. n/t
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 03:12 AM
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5. We'll see more of this as Republicans cut off bootstraps.
They act as if poor people will have no choice but to suffer and starve, but the truth is many will find a way. No one starves because they can't get assistance, and when someone in need can't get an honest job, they'll find a dishonest one.

I'm not excusing this person who did this, my point is that when people are desperate, they do desperate things.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:08 AM
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11. Not circumcising your baby = starving? And it's the Republicans fault?
Sorry, just did a little bit of a double take there.

As far as I'm aware, there are no industrialised countries with universal health care where non-therapeutic infant circumcision is a covered service. The few people who choose it pay for it out of pocket. It's got nothing to do with Republicans and bootstraps and starvation. More like sensible allocation of limited health care resources.

One of the other options this man had was to take the desperate measure of leaving his kid's penis alone. I guess there's not too many people in this country who are quite THAT desperate.
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Tyrs WolfDaemon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 03:33 AM
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6. At least he didn't say he was in the mood for Human Calamari
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 04:22 AM
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7. His next robbery will be to give his 8 year-old Botox?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:27 AM
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14. Is insurance not covering Botox for 8 year olds these days?
What fiendish treatment of poor people we have in this country.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 04:26 AM
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8. You left out fat people, smokers, and trans-gendered prison inmates demanding free surgery
:hide:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 04:29 AM
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9. A damned fool.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:42 AM
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10. Guns and weenies in the same post!!!
Only thing missing is the Olive Garden ! :) :) :)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:34 AM
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15. It's no surprise that this butcher is also a thief!
Edited on Thu May-19-11 09:34 AM by Renew Deal
:hide:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:05 PM
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16. Was anyone in this story a cigarette smoker?
b/c my answers depend on it.
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:18 PM
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17. Uncircumcised men are, ehm, "better", imho
Having "had" both......just my opinion.

The scary thing is that if I would have had sons, instead of daughters all, I would have had my sons circumsised at that time. However, I've learned/lived more since that time and now, with what I have learned, would NEVER have my son (if I had one) circumsised.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:42 PM
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18. Lucky you had daughters then.
I'm glad that I reached that conclusion before I had my sons.

Hopefully you can transmit your knowledge to your daughters to the benefit of any possible grandsons.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:10 PM
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19. Exactly how was the pit bull involved in this incident? n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:13 PM
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20. The pit bull was being breast fed in an adjacent Olive Garden restaurant.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:16 PM
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21. In the smoking section? n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:15 AM
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23. The pit bull was sucking on a cigarette the entire time.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:16 PM
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22. Here's $500...and keep the tip.
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