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discocrisco01 Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:50 AM
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Want a Job? Move to Canada
So in the United States, we have a major problems with jobs. Not so in Alberta, Canada according to http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/05/18/labour-shortage-a-looming-problem-for-province">Edmonton Sun



An impending labour shortage is Alberta's "single greatest" threat for economic competitiveness, says a government council.

A report released Wednesday by the Alberta Competitiveness Council (ACC) says if the province doesn't address labour barriers now, the economy, and Albertans, will suffer the consequences.

"While Alberta's in a strong competitiveness position, it cannot rest on its laurels. We've seen what happens when we try and do that," says Bob Brawn, Co-Chair of the ACC.

The report, named Moving Alberta Forward, identifies 13 sector specific actions, and five general actions, to improve Alberta's competitiveness in the next five years. Brawn says many of the action items are already completed or in the process of being carried out.

Two of the points in the report address labour issues, including the need for more temporary foreign workers and ensuring underrepresented work groups, like youth, seniors and aboriginal people, participate in the work force.

"We have an aging population which is going to impact labour availability," says Premier Ed Stelmach. "We're looking at how we can work with the federal government in increasing the cap that was put on temporary workers. We'll see now that there's a new government in place, a new minister, we'll be able to continue that dialogue


We have a problem of lack of job in this country. When your country has potential labor shortgage, you turn to immigration to deal with the problem. And immigration from the United States to Canada addresses the problem.

And this is a little dirty secret that few know about. And the job problems seems not to be solved for a long, long time. So guess if I want a job, I would suggest to move to Canada.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:52 AM
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1. Universal Health Care = Job Creation.
When business's don't have to put massive costs of an employees health care in to the equation good things happen.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:52 AM
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2. Where the banks don't fail
and where lying Fox be banned.

Sounds kind of adult-like.
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:53 AM
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3. But of course...
They won't let you in unless you either have a huge amount of money in the bank or some skills that they desperately need.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:20 AM
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5. That's not entirely true...
Canada's huge, glaring problem historically is that they have too few people in too much space. They have always relied on immigration to help populate the country. There are several ways of getting into Canada, and if you have any professional or vocational experience to speak of in lines of work that they want, and are an honest, responsible, good person, you can probably get in if you try. There's a whole lot of professions and vocations on their "desirable" list. Their main concern is that they don't want people who are likely to wind up on public assistance. Understandably, they want people who are likely to contribute to the economy and to the public discourse in terms of civic engagement, intellectual and artistic output, etc.
You can take a mock test on the Immigration Canada website. You get points for being fluent in English or French (it's extra good if you know both), for various levels of educational attainment, and so on. Under most of their plans, they do want you to have some seed money to get started, i.e. get a place to live and wait out the job-finding period, just so you don't go on the dole immediately. All of which is fair and reasonable.

That said, there is some anti-Americanism, and there always has been. They live in the shadow of THE 900-pound gorilla, and they're often not excited about it, for good reason. You might expect to encounter some hostility occasionally from anyone who learns that you're originally American. On the other hand, most Canadians are pretty decent, down-to-earth people and the majority of them will welcome anyone who arrives with a will to work and make a new home there.
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jtuck004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:00 AM
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4. Or the U.S. could elect someone that thinks FDR had a better vision

for the country than Ronald Reagan.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:34 AM
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7. FDR was like any other president - there was no vision
he simply realized there was a real threat from the socialists/communists so he saved capitalism with his new deal. Times are different now - we don't have much of a left (and certainly nothing organized) so we are not a threat. And, thus, no deal from Mr. Obama.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/7076
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:05 AM
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8. That's a complete revisionist history, dudette. FDR was elected to put gov't to work for
Edited on Thu May-19-11 10:07 AM by mistertrickster
ordinary people.

And he did.

BTW, the Hoover Institute? Really?

A Koch Bros funded think tank is your source?
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:18 AM
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12. You want a better source - here ya go brother
The nearly hidden historical fact is that these gains were not delivered by a munificent benefactor. Workers fought for the advances in an epic struggle the like of which the U.S. has not seen before or since. Roosevelt responded to this tsunami of revolt, not because he was a friend of labor, but to save the system. His choices about how to do so were dictated by forces no one person can control.

FDR had to shore up profits and protect the system from itself with regulation, and he had to deflect working-class revolt.


http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/?q=node/327

And here is the reference to connect labor with socialism (and thus my assertion that the pressure of socialism/communism - in the form of organized labor) pressured Roosevelt to act:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_States

Many were hoping we'd see similar actions from Mr. Obama, but alas the communists have been targeted repeatedly by our government (most notably during the time of the Wilson and Eisenhower administrations) and are not nearly as organized now as they were during FDR's time.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 10:57 AM
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14. Okay . . . I see where you're going with this. You're right.
I beg to differ that FDR had no vision, but your main point that FDR reacted more than he led is probably true.

And the left was much more powerful then . . .
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:27 AM
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6.  freeps sneaking over the border, loading up in semi trucks
:rofl:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM
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9. I took the quiz a few years ago during the Bush reign of error
Over 50. Chronic health problem. No bachelor's degree. Not a lot of money. No French. No Canadian family.

Looks like I'm a Yankee to stay, eh?
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:18 AM
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10. Plenty of jobs in North Dakota too.
The oil bidness. Drive up to Williston, you'll probably be working within a week.

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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:33 AM
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11. You need to read between the lines in this one
Edited on Thu May-19-11 10:35 AM by laundry_queen
I live in Alberta. Yes, there are some jobs here and for the most part, they pay pretty good but it's not like there's some huge shortage...yet anyway. Also, most of the jobs ARE in the oil industry, and in this article, they slip it in rather silently...this is a campaign for a relaxing of the rules so that the oil companies can bring in cheap labor. Up in Ft. Mac, there are tons of jobs. And yes, they do have a problem filling those spots, because NO ONE wants to live there! Even with the high pay, the cost of living is high and not worth it. So, instead, companies are trying to get cheap immigrant labor instead of offering more money for people to move there. This is their lobbying effort. BTW, the Edmonton Sun is a right wing rag.
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donco Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 12:43 PM
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13. Too damn cold
for me.I think i will take my chances on a turnaround in the lower 48.
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