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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:49 AM
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political wives "tipper point" is way too late
Political Wives' 'Tipper Point' Is Way Too Late

By Sandra Kobrin
. . . . .


With a tip of the hat to Gladwell and Gore I define the "Tipper point" as the moment of critical mass, the threshold, the boiling point where a wife can no longer stand for the sexual philandering, sexual abuse or gross misconduct of her rich and powerful husband.
. . .

First came Dominique Strauss-Kahn, head of the International Monetary Fund, accused of sexually assaulting a hotel worker in New York. The woman involved didn't follow the code of silence that is widely reported to protect French male elites. Instead she reported her story to police and Strauss-Kahn was forced to trade in his Frette sheets at the Sofitel for a cot at Rikers.

Then--in a "can you top this move"--Arnold Schwarznegger, our former governor out here in California, announced that he fathered a child with a family employee 10 years ago. Apparently he'd provided his wife of 25 years, Maria Shriver, with that information a few months ago.
. . . .

The problem is that being a wife of a man with immense power--including over numerous women--is actually a role of much public consequence. As we used to say in the 1970s, the person is political. Especially for women intimately involved with influential men.

Eight years ago, during Schwarzenegger's 2003 campaign for governor, women came forward to say he had groped and sexually abused them on the set. Shriver stood behind his staunch denials and went further. She applauded his character and went on the attack against his accusers.

. . .

http://www.womensenews.org/story/commentary/110519/political-wives-tipper-point-way-too-late
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:53 AM
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1. We can't all be Nancy Reagan
Thank the goddess! She was the Other Woman who really knew how to keep hold of the reins.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:57 AM
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2. Are you referring to pre-Nancy and RR's alleged rape of Selene Walters?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:00 AM
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4. No
I haven't read the book, and probably never will. Nancy led him around like a bull with a nose ring.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:00 AM
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3. to this day, news people laugh at the groping. assault. these women were assaulted.
women defend these men. media defend these men. a whole country (france) defend these men. polinski a perfect example.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:01 AM
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5. I read an interview with Maria Shriver a long time back..
She talked about how she and Arnie met, IIRC she said his first comment to her was "You have a great ass.".

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:02 AM
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7. he made some sexist remark on oprah and the two women giggled, shriver tried to stop him
yet he continued.

he didnt fool her. she knew. and validating his assault on women
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:02 AM
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6. Did I miss something? Was it revealed that Gore has f@cked every woman in sight?
Resulting in one or more children by women that aren't Tipper? :eyes:
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:05 AM
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8. There was nothing to miss.
I don't know how Al got in with this company except by his estrangment with Tipper. Might as well have lumped me in there too for that matter.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:10 AM
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10. Didn't think I did...what a deplorable inclusion.
Sorry about your troubles. :hug:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:06 AM
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9. I think the point is that there is a practice of "looking the other way"
when powerful men are involved. Gore wasn't a very good example.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:11 AM
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11. Point taken.
Perhaps the writer couldn't resist a pun.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:14 AM
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13. I got the point, but the author of the article has really slurred his name.
Anybody who didn't know better would now swear that he was a lecher with a "love" child or two scattered around. :(
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:29 AM
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15. I agree. Gore should not have been included, but I also think
the rest of the article was spot on.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:45 AM
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16. Definitely!
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:13 AM
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12. So what, Gore was banging everything in sight, but didn't get caught?
Wow.


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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:28 AM
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14. Gore was cleared...Masseuse failed polygraph, refused to say whether paid by tabloid.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 10:29 AM by dkf
Al Gore cleared of assault allegations made by masseuse
Official says masseuse and her attorneys were uncooperative, and witnesses could not remember anything unusual

Former vice president Al Gore has been cleared of allegations that he groped and assaulted a masseuse in a Portland hotel room in 2006.

After a four-week investigation that included interviews with Gore, the masseuse, her acquaintances and hotel staff, authorities said there was no basis for prosecution.

Senior deputy district attorney Don Rees cited "contradictory evidence, conflicting witness statements, credibility issues, lack of forensic evidence and denials by Mr Gore".

Rees also said the masseuse and her attorneys were uncooperative, witnesses could not remember anything unusual, and that the masseuse failed a polygraph examination and would not say whether she was paid by a tabloid newspaper for her story.


http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/31/al-gore-cleared-assault-allegations-masseuse?cat=world&type=article

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:58 AM
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18. ****Thank You for posting that.****
Just goes to show it's not always what is in the "news", just who gets there first, because what gets there first seems to be what sticks.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:53 AM
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17. the code of silence that is widely reported to protect French male elites
Nope, no French bashing here...people who have never been to France know all about what they doa nd do not do. Pathetic dribble...and it's doubly pathetic to implicate Al Gore.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:25 PM
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19. . . . .
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:30 PM
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20. Only a miniscule percentage of people are associated with someone with such notoriety or power.
Edited on Thu May-19-11 10:31 PM by trackfan
Who really gives a shit what they do? It has nothing to do with most people in the real world. It's just a distraction.
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