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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:16 PM
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Question: Why is Geithner still Sec of Treasury?
Why? Why? Please do your best to defend the fact that this Wall St. shitstain is still whispering in the ear of Obama like Wormtongue? :wtf:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:18 PM
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1. Most Excellent Question !!! - K & R !!!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:21 PM
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2. He has pictures of Obama with farm animals?
That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:23 PM
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3. May as well be the truth
since I can't imagine what he has done to keep his job. What a catastrophe.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:24 PM
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4. connections?
Edited on Thu May-19-11 06:27 PM by Hannah Bell
John P. Marquand (1893) second wife was Adelaide Ferry Hooker, whom he met while touring China in 1934-35. His bride-to-be was also touring China, with the "Garden Clubs of America".

On her mother's side she was Ferry-Morse seed; on her father's side she was Hooker Electro-Chemical. IOW, great wealth on both sides.


Adelaide Hooker's sister was Blanchette (1909).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchette_Fe...


Blanchette was the wife of JD Rockefeller III, brother of David (1915), now the only living grandchild of JD I.



JD III founded the Asia Society:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rocke...



Peter F Geithner, Tim's father, is an advisor to the Asia Society, as well as the Rockefeller Foundation & the China Medical Board, all Rockefeller creations.

http://www.chinamedicalboard.org/people.ad...


John P. Marquand (1893) was a first cousin to Tim Geithner's grandmother Adeline Nichols (1905):


Richard F. Fuller (1824)
\........................\
Margaret (1867)....Gertrude (1869)
+ Marquand.........+ Nichols
\.........................\
JP Marquand (1893)...Adeline (1905)
+ Hooker..............+ Moore
............................\
.......................Deborah Moore
...................+ Peter F Geithner (1932)
...........................\
.....................Tim Geithner (1956)


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Hannah%20Bell
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:27 PM
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6. Gotta hate on the facts
Damn! Thanks for the info, Hannah. Much respect.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:26 PM
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5. The better question is why he's been there since 2009?
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:29 PM
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7. Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you ...
Fool me ...

... can't get fooled again?
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:34 PM
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9. Fool is certainly the word that comes to my mind when
considering the guy that kept him there. I feared the future pretty much as soon as he picked his cabinet and such wherein there seemed to be no change at all.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:33 PM
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8. He hasn't started a run for the white house.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:41 PM
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10. Obama hearts Goldman Sachs. (nt)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:22 PM
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19. What does that have to do with Geithner? (nt)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:44 PM
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At no point in his career has Geithner worked on Wall Street
His only time in the private sector was a fellowship with the CFR; the rest of his career has been in public service. I'm really tired of this lie.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:43 PM
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22. He's spent his entire career working for Wall Street.
"Mr. Geithner, as President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York since October 2003, was one of those senior regulators who failed to take any effective regulatory action to prevent the crisis, but instead covered up its depth." -- William K. Black


In Geithner’s own words during confirmation hearings in March: “First of all, I’ve never been a regulator... I’m not a regulator.” According to the New York fed bank’s Web site, that was your job!!

Quoting from the Fed’s website: “As part of our core mission, we supervise and regulate financial institutions in the Second District.” That district of course is the epicenter for bailed out banks and billion dollar bonuses. -- Dylan Ratigan


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/business/27geithner.html?hp">Geithner, Member and Overseer of Finance Club

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/03/ny-fed-under-geithner-implicated-in-lehman-accounting-fraud.html">NY Fed Under Geithner Implicated in Lehman Accounting Fraud Allegation

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/03/quelle-surprise-geithner-gutting-dodd-frank-via-intent-to-exempt-foreign-exchange.html">Geithner Gutting Dodd Frank via Intent to Exempt Foreign Exchange

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/time-calls-geithner-and-con-man-and.html">Time Calls Geithner a "Con Man" and the Stress Tests a "Confidence Game"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/07/geithners-new-york-fed-to_n_414449.html">Geithner's New York Fed Pushed AIG To Keep Sweetheart Deals Secret (READ THE AIG EMAILS)

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/08/geithner-bullies-financial-regulators.html">Geithner Bullies Financial Regulators to Accept Fed as Top Dog

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/02/pallet-tim.html">Helicopter Ben and Pallet Tim

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/05/geithner-blocked-imf-deal-to-haircut-irish-debt.html">Geithner Blocked IMF Deal to Haircut Irish Debt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/the-fed-in-hot-water_b_522059.html">The Fed in Hot Water (for Geither's secret Bear Stearns and AIG bailouts)

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/01/another-geithner-ethics-compromise-let.html">Another Geithner Ethics Compromise (Let Them Eat Cake Edition)

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/04/guest-post-geithner-says-pickpocketing-trillions-from-the-people-to-give-to-the-oligarchy-was-deeply-unfair-but-we-um-had-to.html">Geithner Says Pickpocketing Trillions from the People to Give to the Oligarchy Was “Deeply Unfair”, But We … Um … Had To

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:44 PM
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11. Delete
Edited on Thu May-19-11 06:45 PM by Recursion
The lack of a comment number here disturbs me
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:53 PM
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12. why was he ever appointed in the first place?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:11 PM
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15. Because he's a respected economist who has dedicated his life to public service
... and has passed up many opportunities to work on Wall Street, and despite that, is still lied about and labeled as a Wall Street person.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:47 PM
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23. Respected by whom?
Does a Single Independent Economist Buy the Geithner-Summers-Bernanke Approach?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/03/does-single-independent-economist-buy.html

On the left, you have:

* Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz saying that they have failed to address the structural and regulatory flaws at the heart of the financial crisis that stand in the way of economic recovery, and that they have confused saving the banks with saving the bankers

* Nobel economist Paul Krugman saying their plan to prop up asset prices "isn't going to fly". He also said:

At every stage, Geithner et al have made it clear that they still have faith in the people who created the financial crisis — that they believe that all we have is a liquidity crisis that can be undone with a bit of financial engineering, that “governments do a bad job of running banks” (as opposed, presumably, to the wonderful job the private bankers have done), that financial bailouts and guarantees should come with no strings attached. This was bad analysis, bad policy, and terrible politics. This administration, elected on the promise of change, has already managed, in an astonishingly short time, to create the impression that it’s owned by the wheeler-dealers.

* Prominent economists like Nouriel Roubini, James Galbraith, Robert Kuttner, Dean Baker, Michael Hudson and many others slamming their approach (and Paulson's as well)

On the right, you have:

* Leading monetary economist Anna Schwartz saying that they are fighting the last war and doing it all wrong

* Former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and former editor of the Wall Street Journal Paul Craig Roberts lambasting their approach

* Economist John Williams saying "the federal government is bankrupt ... If the federal government were a corporation … the president and senior treasury officers would be in federal penitentiary."

* Prominent economist Marc Faber and many others tearing their approach to shreds.

Of course, other Nobel economists, high-level fed officials, former White House economist, and numerous others have slammed their approach as well.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:59 PM
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13. Apparently, the president likes it that way.
The only explanation for THAT is: He's not on our side.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:22 PM
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18. Tell me, specifically, what about Geithner's past made him unfit for the job in your opinion?
I'm curious
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:46 PM
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20. You're happy with the decisions he's been making?
Because I'm not the least bit interested in his resume.

If you think he's not acting in Wall Street's interest v. ours, say why.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:50 PM
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21. Some of them yes, some of them no
I'm curious about what his career before being Secretary of the Treasury would have made you think he was a bad choice.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:32 PM
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26. I wasn't focusing on his past career (which I don't know that much about)
It's his present-day loyalties that worry me.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:24 PM
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24. How about the secret bailouts when he was at the NY Fed?
Edited on Thu May-19-11 11:27 PM by girl gone mad
The cover-ups and lies? Failing to regulate in the midst of the most extreme examples of financial fraud in history when it was his express duty to regulate?
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:04 PM
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14. because Obama believes in the values and principles of Goldman Sachs et al ? nt
Edited on Thu May-19-11 07:05 PM by msongs
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:13 PM
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16. Geithner never worked at Goldman Sachs et al
Ever.

Not once.

He has spent precisely 0 days on Wall Street. Except for a fellowship at the CFR he has spent his entire career in public service. I don't agree with many of his decisions but I am absolutely sick of seeing him tarred as some Wall Street profiteer.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:21 PM
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17. Because Summers and Emmanuel are gone....
Gets lonely up there for a third way Dem.

Ah...who am I kidding. It's not lonely at all.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 11:29 PM
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25. Don't know, but he will be president in a few days...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:36 PM
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27. Because the Owner Class has spoken.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:38 PM
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28. because Obama wants him to be
eom
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