Is President Obama a "traitor"

Do you agree with Peter Fonda

Yes. Traitorous? No, certainly. But, I appreciate Peter Fonda's passion on the issue, if not his hyperbole. The people of NOLA and surrounding areas of the Gulf of Mexico---surely deserve better THIS time. But, that doesn't mean I don't think Obama has tried to protect their interests. Ineffectual on the big picture, though it seems.

..sadly

edited for typo.

Yours was worded well and actually would be listened to even if people didn't agree totally. In other words it's a starting point for discussion whereas fonda's ends discussion.

Too bad, because I had been looking forward to the movie. Now I won't see it.

Peter Fonda should stick to acting and stop making dim-witted comments to the press!

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Maybe he could have done a better job with respect to the Gulf. But to call him a traitor is a touch much. I'm surprised that that thread has as many recs as it does. Maybe I shouldn't be....

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liberal, a progressive, and an alleged "traitor."

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You mean traitor to Israel?

was uncalled for, a lie and nasty. The hell with Fonda!

and this is, without a doubt, the dumbest fucking question I have yet encountered. Unrec.

you're new so you're excused.

It's a legitimate question based on a reported accusation. There is actually a discussion posted in this forum. Check it out.

life is simple.

So it goes.

Wait, what?

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the interest of the powers that be."

"Wrong question. Obvious hyperbole. Question is "Can he change anything that is fundamentally not in the interest of the powers that be."

Missing point.

Time and time again the little people get sold out in favour of big corporations.

wellllllll....

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you think that's what Fonda meant?

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I have NO idea what our party stands for any more.

So not a traitor, as much as an enabler.

The Oligarchs will be pleased.

Those that say no I guess will vote republican next year!!

But to the lower "classes" who elected him, YES,

"But to the lower "classes" who elected him, YES,"

..."traitor" is a strong word

But he isn't doing THEM any favors.

There is hope!

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"You make it sound like over whelming win for your side."

.... your side the 20 percenters?

I sense the pride!

Try again.

Obama lets corporations roll over us as he proved during the health care discussions when he refused to meet with single payer advocates, including his Chicago family doctor of 20+ years.

Obama allowed BP to run the so-called cleanup. People who live on the Gulf Coast know the 'clean up' was a for show, half-assed 'show'. In reality tar balls are still washing up along the shores as well as dead fish.

BP and the Coast Guard effectively prevented photography and reporting of the gyre of dead whales, porpoises and other sea life.

Co-Rexit was allowed to poison the Gulf when the use of skimmers would have been more environmentally sound. But Obama possibly feared photographs of a Gulf of Mexico covered with black crude. So Co-Rexit was used to disperse the oil into the water. :(

try telling that to bin Laden and Trump. Hair today, gone tomorrow. Don't mess with Barack!

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gotten us one bit of progressive legislation? How did either of those serve the unemployed? How did either one get health care for a single American? How did either one halt the ever increasing power of banks and wall street to control you life?

Nice macho piece of rah-rah bullshit though.

"How has killing bin Laden and warming his hands over trumps self-immolation gotten us one bit of progressive legislation? How did either of those serve the unemployed? How did either one get health care for a single American? How did either one halt the ever increasing power of banks and wall street to control you life?"

Possibly by speeding up the end of the war in Afghanistan and freeing up much needed funds.

Imagine the possibilities.

Love that you at least put in the word "possibly". We aren't seeing that yet. But I see you grasped at the only straw you could find in this argument. Weak, but nice effort.