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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:39 PM
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Democratic governors turn on unions

May 18, 2011
Democratic governors turn on unions

Op Ed News - Here is the short list of states that have Democratic governors where labor unions are undergoing severe attacks: Massachusetts , Connecticut, Oregon, California, New York, Illinois, Washington, Hawaii, Minnesota, Maryland and New Hampshire. Other states with Democratic governors are attacking unions to a lesser degree.

For example, the anti-union Democratic governor of Connecticut is demanding $1.6 billion in cuts from state workers! The contract has not been ratified yet, but Governor Malloy referred to the agreement as: "historic because of the way we achieved it - we respected the collective bargaining process and we respected each other, negotiating in good faith, without fireworks and without anger."

The anti-union Democratic governor of the state of Washington uses similar language: "They contributed with a salary cut; they contributed by paying more in health care. They have stepped up and said we want to be a part of the solution. I did it by going to the table, respecting their collective bargaining rights and we got the job done."

The anti-union Democratic governor of Oregon is demanding 20 to 25 percent pay cut for state workers: "But those concessions will be made across a bargaining table through our collective bargaining process and with mutual respect."

http://prorevnews.blogspot.com/2011/05/democratic-governors-turn-on-unions.html

It's not only Republican politicians who are turning on working people and their labor unions. BBI
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:40 PM
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1. as their true owners command?
:shrug:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:57 PM
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8. Yes, how very 'pragmatic' of them.
Abandoning the protection of the people was one of the complaints cited on the Declaration of Independence...

I'm sure the British Parliment of 1776 would be sympathetic to them...the old squeezeroo between budget balancing and making places business friendly leaves such little room for anything but 'practical decisions.'


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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:42 PM
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2. Give Dems a Golden Goose and they'll eat the eggs every time
Edited on Fri May-20-11 12:45 PM by Armstead
I realize that article may or may not be sarcastic in referring to them as anti-union, but in at least Massachusetts and New York Democratic politicians are not behaving well towards the unions and their workers
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:46 PM
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3. Wasn't Republican politicians who turned on this working person and my labor union either
When I was laid off for the better part of the 1980's those neighbors of mine buying imported and non-union made cars weren't all Republican politicians.

Don
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:54 PM
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7. Don't let the Republican/Democratic politicians off the hook and blame union workers for the cuts.

OK?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:57 PM
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9. Lot of those neighbors of mine who were destroying my union were union members
I am not letting them off the hook either. Don't blame me for having a good memory.

OK?

Don
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:35 PM
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19. So the employers didn't destroy your union, your union neighbors did. Of course they did.
Edited on Fri May-20-11 02:39 PM by Better Believe It
And how did your union neighbors help your employer destroy your union?

And please, don't tell me they bought a "foreign" made car.

There aren't any American built cars. All so-called "American made" cars include parts made in other nations or are even assembled in other nations for importation into the United States.

And many of those so-called "foreign" cars include parts made in the United States and are assembled in the United States.

If you have a car, do you know which parts were made in the United States?

This is global capitalism that we have to fight.

And you can't fight it by going to bat for and making excuses for American corporations.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:50 PM
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4. Stealth union-busting attack in CA
Our In-Home Supportive Services (IHSS) program is built around county public authorities, which serve as the bargaining unit for the unionized caregivers. Gov. Brown (D)'s latest budget proposal defunds the public authorities. Estimates are that 14 of the 50 or so authorities (some smaller counties have joint ones) would have to close. No bargaining unit, no union contract. It's like bankruptcy without dinging your credit! :sarcasm:
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:54 PM
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5. We need to stop seeing politicians as Democrats & Republicans
And start seeing them as conservatives and everyone else.

Conservatives have infiltrated our party, and they're hiding behind the past history of being for the poor and working classes our party once represented.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 12:54 PM
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6. Nader was right. Nader was FUCKING RIGHT.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:36 PM
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20. he usually is n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:01 PM
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10. In New Hampshire, our governor is, at best, a DINO and he's dealing with...
...veto-proof Republican majorities in the other branches of state
government, so even if he weren't a DINO, there'd be nothing he
could do about the NH Repub/ALEC-inspired attack in unions.

Tesha
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:04 PM
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11. K&R
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:06 PM
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12. If the Dems keep doing this a worker's party
is just around the corner. You can't keep supporting people who are killing you. And dead is dead, whether it's a quick death or a slow one.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:06 PM
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13. Unions need to send them a great big Fuck you and put
up people to run against them.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:37 PM
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14. The Democratic Party is a Capitalist party.

For a very short time it was pro-union and for a longer time it refrained from being overtly anti-union but now it is joining the world wide attack on workers by capital, no more illusions.

If the Democratic Party was so pro-union why, when they had the Presidency and/or majorities, was there no effort to repeal Taft-Hartley?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 01:41 PM
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15. Just some harmless, clear-eyed centrism. n/t
n/t
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:15 PM
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16. Knr.
Also, a thank you to you, BBI. I always find your posts informative, interesting and timely.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:26 PM
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17. I wouldn't call Connecticut's Governor anti-union.
He had already passed the a large tax increase to get us on the right track with the budget. And the agreements he got from the unions also helped them. They got extensions to protect their pensions and medical for 11 more years.

Our state budget was screwed up. Malloy did as much as was possible to not gut our social services.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 02:31 PM
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18. O.k. Cuts suck, yeah.
but they're NOT being handled in the same dictatorial manner that, say, Walker, Kasich, et. al handled things in their states. They are achieiving the cuts using the very process (collective bargaining) that Republicans are simply trying to get rid of altogether in their own states so that they don't have to negotiate with anybody (but themselves and the voices in their heads). I'm surprised that people can't appreciate the differences here :shrug:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 10:58 AM
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21. ...a kinder, softer killing of the uinions....GO DEMOCRATS!



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will stand up for working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone



"By their works you will know them."

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:21 PM
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22. Who's talking about killing the unions?
It sounds like- as far as the article is concerned- some Democratic governors are trying to NEGOTIATE wage & benefit concessions via COLLECTIVE BARGAINING- the antithesis of what Walker, Kasich, et. al are doing.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:46 PM
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23. Jerry Brown negotiates with unions in California
this article makes it look like he's the Scott Walker of California. I guess the cuts to everything else shows he's anti-California too.

:sarcasm:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:51 PM
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24. Not my guv. He's pro-union all the way.
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