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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:00 PM
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Gingrich: Students and immigrants should be poll-tested before being allowed to vote
Source: Think Progress

Last week, former GOP House Speaker and current presidential candidate Newt Gingrich suggested that American citizens should have to pass a test in American history before they could earn the right to vote. Despite rampant criticism from both sides of the aisle, Gingrich reiterated his support for poll tests yesterday at a town hall meeting in Marshalltown, IA.

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Conservatives across the country are moving to disenfranchise voters as fast as they can through restrictive voter identification laws and other means, but the idea of a poll test stands out as particularly extreme. Indeed, Florida Rep. Allen West (R), who is black, dismissed Gingrich’s original comments as something “my parents had to deal with.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/20/gingrich-poll-test/
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:08 PM
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1. The only constitutional restrictions to voting are age and citzenship.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:37 PM
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25. GOPers say they love the U.S. Constitution, but they do not know what is in it. n/t
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:41 PM
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32. No poll taxes either. nt
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:09 PM
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2. As long as the test is written by real historians,
I think its a good idea. It would stop every single person who votes republican from voting and stop the GOP from ever winning an election again. Don't you love when their stupid plans can be used against them?
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:50 PM
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28. Ha! Question #1, Is a poll test constitutional? EOM
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:10 PM
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3. ... only if candidates have to pass the same test before they can run for office ...
That would eliminate about 85% of the the GOP and the Teanutters.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:20 PM
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5. Of course they will want to use the Sean Hannity textbook...
which features contributions from Rush Limbaugh, the Koch brothers and Michelle Bachmann.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:18 PM
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4. That could backfire on the Thugs as their voters are the most uneducated in the country.
They could lose 1/4 their constituents.
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liberal_mama Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 03:13 AM
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48. You are right!
80% of the Republicans wouldn't pass!
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:22 PM
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6. Newt's Full of --it tour continues
Another look at the campaign bus.....
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:26 PM
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7. The Republican candidates seem to be in a mad rush to stake
out "Crazy." Newt's no exception.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:52 PM
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14. the crazy clown tour....
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:36 PM
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8. Speaking of a candidate for a pole.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:40 PM
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9. How about viewers of FoxNews?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:34 PM
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40. and Tea Party members, old people with slurred speech,
CEOs, and trust fund kids too?
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cheneyschernobyl Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:42 PM
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10. I would call Gingrich a loon... but that would be
insulting to other loons!
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 02:18 AM
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46. The National Association of Shithouse Rats is in emergency session
Tryig to decide whether to excommunicate him, or join with the CooCoo's for Cocoa Puffs to stage an intervention.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:44 PM
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11. Michele Bachman wouldn't pass any poll test ffs n/t
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:57 PM
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41. Meanwhile that teenager who challenged her to a debate would...
...despite all the teathug threats towards that kid.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:50 PM
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12.  the supreme court will have to overturn the 65 civil rights act.
i think newt`s 15 minutes id just about up...
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:52 PM
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13. How 'bout Tea Party members as well?
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:53 PM
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15. Candidates should pass a test before they can run for office
There are Republicans that could not pass a basic Civics test.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 04:59 PM
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16. i'm all for this..
teabaggers would fail miserably.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:02 PM
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17. he DOES realize that most of HIS base wouldn't be able to pass such a test, Right? n/t
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:14 PM
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18. Naw. He thinks his base was born knowing the answers....
...unlike immigrants, who couldn't possibly know the answers to such a test from, say, studying. If you're not born in this country how could you know the answers? :eyes: Those citizenship classes immigrants have to take in order to become citizens don't teach 'em anything :sarcasm:
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 03:08 AM
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47. Thats why its for "young people" not
"real amerikuns" like the tea party.
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:17 PM
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19. By the same token, Newt should have to pass a Constitution knowledge test before...................
being allowed to run for office.
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silenttigersong Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:23 PM
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20. Newt Gingrich
apparently is the guinea pig or trial balloon for the GOP,the think- tanks must be working feverishly on demo graphics.Because everyone knows this is total BS..waiting to see Newt exit stage right,:rofl: :popcorn:
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:25 PM
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21. Oh, Jeez, tthen they'd have to learn what a well-regulated
militia is. And that stuff about (not) making laws respecting religion. Maybe if they could throw out some of those pesky amendments, like the fourth, and the fourteenth, and the seventeenth.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:28 PM
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22. Gingrich should be fidelity-tested before he is allowed to....
marry...


Tikki
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:00 PM
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52. DUzY! - n/t
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:36 PM
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23. As usual, Newt is a Dickhead! Naturalized citizens
(the only "immigrants" with voting privileges) already took an incredibly good US history test in order to gain citzenship.

Pandering to the racists and the ignorant is his specialty!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:43 PM
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26. Yep. He wants to test the ones who could pass.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:37 PM
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24. From a personal stand point, my Southern relatives would be out in the cold.
A logical discussion with 99% of them based on facts is a total impossibility. They go from one wholly false notion to the next. It is impossible to argue logically with them because they have been indoctrinated with propaganda. They listen to Rush and watch FOX. They believe the most bizarre crap. Obama isn't a citizen; Saddam bombed the Trade Center along with his Jewish conspirators all of who didn't go to work on 9/11. You can't reason with them because they are basically racists. My sister-in-law recently visited us and she was calling President a "N.." and I told her if she didn't refrain from un-Christian slander she had to immediately leave. She apologized but I know that she is basically a racist. She is a saint compared to her kids and grand kids. I only thank God that I escaped that hell hole when we moved North. I recently attended a funeral in Alabama and I can assure you that as regards the basic beliefs of people it hasn't changed one iota in the last fifty years. Its that it isn't as public as it used to be and they can't get away with the brutality that they did during the Freedom Marches. Sadly those who stayed behind continue to be victims of hatred and ignorance that blinds them and robs them of their humanity. If I was a church going person I would be fearful for their souls come judgment day. Especially most of the evangelical type religions radicals I have encountered who believe in Dooms Day predictions. They don't have long to repent.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:01 PM
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53. They probably, deep down, think the South should have won
tbe Civil War, er, make that 'War Between the States."
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:45 PM
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27. Let's test everyone of age to vote.
An IQ test. Bingo. No more republicans.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:59 PM
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29. Amendment XXIV Poll Taxes
The right of the citizen to vote in any primary or other election for President, Vice President, or other electors fro the President or Vice President or for Senator or Representative in Congress shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay a poll tax or any other tax.

The Voting Rights Act of 1965, (perhaps Gingrich, the "Historian" should read this):

Voting Rights Act of 1965

Introduction
The Voting Rights Act of 1965, passed in the wake of voting demonstrations in Selma, Alabama, provided the capstone to many years' efforts to strengthen voting rights for African-Americans. It gave the Attorney General the power to appoint federal examiners to supervise voter registration in states or voting districts where a literacy or other qualifying test was in use and where fewer than 50 percent of voting age residents were registered or had voted in 1964. Eight states were affected in a major way: Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Caroline, South Carolina, and Virginia.

Although it may not seem such a radical concept in 2002, the Voting Rights Act departed from the pattern of civil rights bills by providing for direct federal action to enable African-Americans to register and vote. Previous laws required individuals to file suits in courts, a process that often took years to conclude. .


<snip>

http://www.congresslink.org/print_basics_histmats_votingrights_contents.htm
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:00 PM
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30. what a constitutionally ignorant dick. n/t
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:03 PM
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31. Would they be tested on the history revised by TX school boards?
Or actual history?
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BadtotheboneBob Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:43 PM
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33. Newt the 'Stalking Horse'
Could it be that the GOP is using Newt as a sort of 'Stalking Horse' i.e. putting the 'Independent' voters attention on him with his outrageous statements etc, but with no intention of nominating him, thus making their true pick appear more 'Centrist' and palatable? Just a thought...
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 06:52 PM
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34. Here is how the test will work under Newt's plan
To brown skinned people:

"compare and contrast in a 5-10 pages essay the following constitutional law questions arising from the following supreme court decisions...."

To fair skinned people - especially tea party people:

"what year did Jefferson write the Declaration of Independence?"

Answer:

1865.

"close enough. Go vote."
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:29 PM
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35. And presidential candidates should be cheated-on-spouse-tested before being allowed to run.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:32 PM
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36. Isn't it Boehner who doesn't know
Edited on Fri May-20-11 07:35 PM by trud
the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence?

Wildly illegal, but if they did this Democrats would probably win every election from now to Kingdom Come.

Besides, "immigrants," and by that I assume he means immigrants who've become citizens, since they're voting, already have to pass a history test to acquire citizenship. Newt the Ignorant apparently doesn't know that.

New test for voting - no credit card bills over $500,000.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:43 PM
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37. Round here, we usually vote on current issues, rather than what Scarlett said to Rhett
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:46 PM
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38. Such a thing would destroy their base...so its not a bad idea.nt
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 07:55 PM
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39. Go for it, Newt!
Republicans are so uninformed, they'd all fail the test, ensuring Democratic victories for decades!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 08:59 PM
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42. Gingrich's finances should be looked into - he owes something like $1/2 million to Tiffany's
Edited on Fri May-20-11 09:02 PM by wordpix
this guy is full of it

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55185.html

Newt Gingrich mum on Tiffany's debt

By KENDRA MARR | 5/17/11 10:39 PM EDT Updated: 5/17/11 10:51 PM EDT

Newt Gingrich refused Tuesday to talk about his six-figure debt to Tiffany’s.

Fox News’s Greta Van Susteren asked the former House Speaker about a POLITICO report that he carried as much as $500,000 in debt to the premier jeweler.
Continue Reading

“Later on I want you to watch this segment,” Gingrich lectured Van Susteren. “Notice I talked about jobs. I talked about the price of gasoline. I talked all these real problems for real Americans.”

Van Susteren admitted, “And I brought this one up.”

“And it sorta think it fit in perfectly,” Gingrich said. “And my answer to you is, I'm not commenting on stuff like that. I'm perfectly happy to talk about what we need to do for America and what we need to do to help Americans. But I frankly don't want to play the gotcha games in Washington.”

After tussling a few more minutes, the host relented.

“I'm bringing it up because I think — whatever,” she said. “I guess others will chase it down and figure it out.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55185.html#ixzz1MwrKLvTa
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 09:25 PM
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43. Why not just go with a poll tax as well to entirely disenfranchise the
Edited on Fri May-20-11 09:26 PM by Vidar
rebellious peasant class?
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 09:33 PM
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44. HIS FACIST ASS NEEDS TO BE 'POLL' TESTED!!!!!
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 01:31 AM
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45. So I guess Michelle Bachman could no longer vote for herself?
Concord & Lexington? New Hampshire, right?
<LOUD BUZZER> Wronnngggg!!!!! Sorry Micehelle, you've failed basic American history. No vote for you!
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:44 PM
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49. What if you disagree with the "official" history?
And think that Europeans stoled America from the indigenous people. What if you believe in the fourth, first, and tenth amendments as written in the constitution? What if you think our horribly abusive foreign policy is why people "people hate us" all around the world?

I'm not sure that anyone could pass a test written by these neocons except another history twisted neocon.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:49 PM
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50. Um, isn't this PATENTLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL????
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Philippine expat Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 12:53 PM
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51. Almost sounds good
when you think about the teabaggers who wouldn't pass
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 03:40 PM
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54. Newt should have to take one. Q1 "who won the Civil War?"
He is in total denial about who won the Civil War. Dickhead has even written alternative histories about a different ending, probably thinking that if he just WISHES hard enough....
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