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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:06 PM
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Poll question: Should a carefully crafted constitutional amendment be passed to overrule Citizens United ?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:08 PM
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1. works for me. but I dont know anything about the law.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:10 PM
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2. Ha. We couldn't even get ERA ratified. This would be political masturbation. n/t
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:11 PM
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4. Good point ! nt
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:10 PM
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3. It should do more.
It should reserve all rights both enumerated and unenumerated to natural persons, specifically prohibiting Constitutional rights to corporations. END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD NOW!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:17 PM
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5. Exactly! Ending corporate personhood is THE issue.
Well and succinctly said! :thumbsup:

sw
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:38 PM
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7. Absolutely, Ma'am
As someone said back a long time ago 'The trouble with our modern corporations is that they have neither bodies to be kicked nor souls to be damned.' Nothing lacking either of these attributes can be considered a person, in any meaningful sense. The idea that a corporation has rights of political expression, that can be wrongly restricted, is both nonesensical and pernicious. The persons who are shareholders and officers and directors of a corporation can have, and express, their political views, and do so quite freely on their own account. The idea that the corporation itself has political views, and must be allowed their free expression, is just a means to let corporate officers amplify their views using other people's money, often without their consent. No one, after all, polls share-holders concerning whether money should be donated to politicians, or paid out in dividends. All a corporation is, or needs to be, is a legal device that allows contracts to be entered into without being personally binding on the person who signs them, and for shielding the whole of an investor's capital from liens associated with the failure of one business he or she has invested in.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 05:52 PM
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11. Can't really add anything to what you've said, so I'll just say, "Right on!"
You've got it all in a nutshell.

:loveya:
sw
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:18 PM
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6. + 1000 nt
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:55 PM
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14. *THAT* is what the amendment should do.
Edited on Sat May-21-11 06:55 PM by Tesha
Citizens United is simply a logical outgrowth
of the abomination of "corporate personhood"
and the way to overturn Citizens United is to
attack the root issue from which it grows.

Tesha
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:40 PM
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8. Campaigns should be government funded, no outside money allowed
Just rolling things back to pre Citizens United doesnt eliminate the corruption that has infiltrated our campaign system.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:41 PM
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9. How about a carefully crafted impeachment proceeding?
I can think of four that have either perjured themselves to get on the Court or have gone duck hunting with petitioners that, in a place where the rule of law was followed, would be bounced out on their ass.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 04:45 PM
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10. It depends.
What would the wording of the amendment say?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:19 PM
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12. and who would vote for said amendment? the same people taking payoffs?
it needs a super majority
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:25 PM
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13. Once the Congress takes up the idea of amending the Constitution there is no telling what might happ
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 06:57 PM
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15. Yeah -- something like equal rights for women might break out! (NT)
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