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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:23 AM
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There are ways to insult people without using racial, gendered, or other slurs.
As I posted as a reply in another thread, they include such things as: asshole, loser, twit, nincompoop, jerk, dumbass, tool, dipshit, asswipe, jackass, ass clown, turd, troll, bonehead....

Mature? No. But at least, if you really must hurl insults at someone, this way you can do it without insulting entire groups of people based on race, gender, ethnicity, class, sexual orientation, or disability.

A lot of people use slurs, but that doesn't make it right. And it doesn't make it right when it's targeting someone we don't particularly like either, because when you insult an entire group of people like that, you end up hurting people who are your friends, family members, and allies.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:24 AM
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1. agreed nt
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:25 AM
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2. Men can't be sluts? (nt)
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yesphan Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:48 AM
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14. Yes they can
I'm living proof.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:39 AM
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21. when a man is called a slut it's a compliment not a slur
In the extremely rare instance when a man is called a slut it's never used as an insult and is normally accompanied by much laughter and backslapping and high-fives between the name caller and the name callee who are normally not strangers to each other. Surely you see the difference.


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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:26 AM
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3. I find it hilarious that people are bemoaning the fact that Ed Schultz has to apologize for
"fighting back." If calling someone a lazy insult is "fighting back" and "being courageous," our side is in a lot more trouble than I thought.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:38 AM
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18. Yes, we are. You are exactly right.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:28 AM
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4. In an old B/W cowboy movie I saw once a "dude" challenged a local to an insult contest..
He said something like "Your odor has caused the skunks in nine counties to commit suicide from pure shame." and then went on from there in a similar vein.

I think I was about 12 when I saw it and I laughed so hard I actually puked.
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tonybgood Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:28 AM
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5. Hurling insults shows that you have lost your perspective and your argument.
When you must resort to such tactics, it says more about you than it ever says about the person you think you're insulting!!!
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:31 AM
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7. what is the greatest turn off
when you resort to a superior attitude you have already lost the agument!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:26 AM
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16. Derisive expletives do not have much meaning for rhetoric
and truly won't win an argument. As we acquire language our family generally makes us aware that tossing around insulting terms is undesirable bad conduct. Mom had that correct.

But expletives do satisfy various syntactical requirements of language and are often used for negative emotional emphasis.

Insulting expletives and pejoratives are an almost inescapable part of language because of the urge speakers have to identify the position of their "self" relative to social "objects" including ideas and other persons. As we've seen, that positioning has social importance (and consequences).

Within the broad membership of a language's users, subgroups can become identified with usage of specific expletives and those terms become signals of membership in subgroups and subcultures with their own rules about word use.

The rhubarb over Schultz's use of the s-word seems to stem from the inherent conflicts between all these basic features of expletives.

His intention to express emotional derision to an 'Other' ran afoul of the generalizable acceptance of that term as a signal of the words acceptance by "Us," by which I mean groups who identify as being associated with him (simultaneously his employer, members of his audience, DU'ers and more broadly both democrats and republicans who follow the punditry).

Sociologically, here at DU objections to Schultz's use of the word become a threat to feelings of group cohesion; sides are taken; and arguments stated in the process of sorting out our relationships to the word, to Ed, and to political adversaries.




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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 02:02 PM
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27. +1
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:29 AM
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6. Why wasn't Ted Nugent condemed and investigated for threatening
Obama Hillary Clinton? I would say that is worse than repeating a SNL skit Danny Ackyrod did in the 1970's on NBC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNLmi0_216g
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:06 AM
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19. Is that what the broohaha is about?
I saw Ed's apology last night and thought it must have been something horrific - but he was really just mimicking the SNL "Jane you ignorant slut" rebuttal?

If that's all it was, his biggest failing was in thinking that 30 year old skit jokes would have any resonance today.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:32 AM
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8. yes there are. Thanks for the post.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:41 AM
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9. "I faahht in your general dirrection. Your mother was a hampster & your father smelt of elderberries
Like that?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:42 AM
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10. What about attacking what was said or printed instead of personally attacking
whomever went on record with the offensive statement?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:43 AM
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23. Its not done that way anymore. A cursory reading of DU will demonstrate that.
Non-violent communication has gone the way of the do-do bird.

Do you miss it?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:45 AM
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24. That would certainly be refreshing, wouldn't it?
Both here and on cable news.
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MatthewStLouis Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:43 AM
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11. I think the worst thing about namecalling is that it is distracting.
What is more harmful: calling someone a name or spreading lies and right wing propaganda?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:45 AM
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12. "Slut" is not a slur IMO.
Edited on Thu May-26-11 07:47 AM by Shagbark Hickory
And if anyone doesn't believe me, they should listen to the song in this youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uoAJw9VFCk
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:46 AM
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13. Well, IMO it is. nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 07:57 AM
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15. Raccoon is a slur IMO.
Edited on Thu May-26-11 07:58 AM by Shagbark Hickory
IF the mods where to suspend you from the forum because of your username, frankly, I'd understand why.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 08:34 AM
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17. Let's hear your best insults then.... I'm curious
give me 5 of them.

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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:41 AM
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22. In other news, water is wet. nt
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:45 AM
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25. You pick your fightin' words. I'll pick mine.
Edited on Thu May-26-11 09:45 AM by Iggo
When I insult someone, I'm not trying to win an argument. I'm trying to start a fight.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 09:47 AM
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26. Is it *really* necessary to be insulting? nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 02:38 PM
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28. As a good slut ...
I am truly offended.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-11 03:00 PM
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29. There's always this site for reference:
The Elizabethan Insult: http://www.museangel.net/insult.html

A bit Olde Englishe, of course, but remarkably creative and universal.
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