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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:05 AM
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How long will it be before some politician says let's update our "horse & buggy" constitution?
Edited on Sun May-29-11 02:06 AM by BigBearJohn
or even worse -- get rid of it? Replacing
rights with privileges? (hint: rights cannot
be revoked... but privileges CAN)
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:07 AM
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1. Why would any of them do that? n/t
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:31 AM
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2. Because they have an 'R' after their names? n/t
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:36 AM
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5. You might want to review the Constitution and note...
the provisions for amending it, let alone "abolishing" it.

It's also simply not true that the GOP doesn't want to preserve the Constitution, despite the fact they are largely at odds with us as to how it is interpreted.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 05:09 AM
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10. If by "interpreted" you mean "ignore the Bill of Rights."
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 10:36 AM
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12. I don't.
Nice try, "WinkyDink".
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:33 AM
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3. It's not like follow its terms that well anyway.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:35 AM
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4. not going to happen. the r's make a big deal about how sacrosanct
the Constitution is. anyway, it's not easy to change the Constitution.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:10 AM
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6. Bush & Cheney
got around it quite nicely for 8 years without officially doing away with it.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 04:15 AM
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7. It depends on the changes.
It could stand a few updates.

A few off the top of my head:
  • Replace the electoral college with a popular vote.
  • Correction of the Citizens United decision.
  • Correction of the Kelo v. City of New London decision.
  • Protect women's healthcare rights.
  • Some clarification and strengthening of the separation of church and state.
  • Labor rights.
  • Verifiable elections.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 04:18 AM
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8. Not to mention a complete and total rework of the entire Article system...
...and the manner in which Law is handled, beginning with an 'intent' statement to be included in every new law.

Some corporate inclusions would likely be necessary as well.

It was a Release Candidate for Democratic Republic 1.0. Time to release the finished product, minus the bugs.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 04:21 AM
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9. I mentioned verifiable elections.
I should have gone further. There should be an explicit federal right to vote.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 10:38 AM
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13. Ummm...
what?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:08 AM
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11. They won't change the Constitution. They'll change the judges who will
interpret the Constitution the way they tell them to.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 10:40 AM
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14. You mean like David Souter?
Oh, wait...he didn't do it like Bush I wanted him to.
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