Iran Plans to Unplug Internet, Create Its Own

they had their own internal version of the WWW that was much more interesting, fun, and informative than the big one.

The real question would be whether the lack of access to the outside world would erase most of its usefulness.

Say they truncate the telephone lines into the country. OK, you've got a countrywide intranet limited only to a single state, Iran in this case. People will quickly get bored because the material they are looking for won't be there. The people they are hoping to connect with won't be there. Not just politics, but music, crocheting, sports, whatever your hobby is, you won't be able to connect with others around the world. The intranet will die on the vine, er cable, because it won't be what they need. Who likes talking to themselves in a mirror 100% of the time except the insane?

At that point, people will still find a way around it. even if they have to go back to short wave radio.

Iranian officials expect to do to accomplish their pipe dream?

they would love this

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Good one!

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DavidDvorkin

Desperate maeassures from a government who KNOW they are not popular for the most of the poulation.. And this wil do the same damage to the Irani government, as the illegality of listning to radio and TV signals from the other side of the Berlin wall. It was illegal to listen to forreign radio, or look at forreign TV channesl in East Germany (and most of East Europe) for as long as the wall was there.. But specially in the Eastern part of Berlin, they often was looking at east german TV early evening, and when the news was cast there switched over to west german television, and then got other news from the other side of the wall.. And then this information very often was given to some, and then some, and then most of east germans know, what was truth and what was propaganda from the government..

The same with this.. Information wil ALLWAYS came in, by mail, by radio, or by internet. It is imposible to close down a country, and made it a closed net that way...

Diclotican

A worldwide, free, unhampered Internet via satellite (with uplink, however) would be a very liberating force.

DavidDvorkin

True, a unhampered internet by satelite, would have given many, who for the moment dosen't have ability to do that, information, who could tear down regimes one by one from the inside.. Today many regimes can "control" the information, that most of the population is given, even tho news about the rest of the world, is slipping in, even for the most closed down regimes and country. I bet that even North Korea is getting information from the rest of the world, even if the information is somewhat dated. No regime can withstand the world, event when they are doing their best, as North Korea are doing.. It exist quite a few mobile phones in North Korea today, and not everyone is in the hand of the regimes... The same with videocameras, who can be really small this days..

But then we do have the troubles with the uplink, as it is costly, and not easy to produce, to repair, and to build.. If an uplink with a decent speed was to be build anywhere and everywhere it would mean a lot of money... And for the moment, it dosen't look like uplinks to satelits, to get information down to subpressed people on a sheap diet is the most important factor our leaders in the world are making.. Instead of "killing the regimes with information from the inside" they are using bombs, and treath of wars to do it.. Instead of building a future where no one should be afraid of life, and where information about unjust or just government could be near free or free gift, (or whatelse information you want to have acces too) it cost a lot, a uplink to a satelit is costing like 10.000 dollar a month.. And many poor country just dosen't have that sum of money to use on a uplink to a satelit. And they you have to have acess to a satelit, who also is costing a lot of money..

In all, if free uplinks to satelits, for everone everywhere was to be posible, we have to stop making wars, and using most of the money, to make peace and rebuild what have been damaged the last 150 or so year.. Literary disable the weapons industry to never be anything else than a ugly part of our history.. And even tho Im little naive, and beliving in human kind, that we one day can stop this war madness, rebuild what is wrong and marsh into history as one of the great planets in a great confederation (Yes I have seen all the Star Trek Movies and series>!) Im also a realist, and I fear that before most pepole understand things, a horrible war have to be waged. So we can understand the price of war.. And stop it in its track before it is to late.. The last couple of decades, specially the last decade of totaly madness when it came to spending on war, have convinced me, that it would be worse, before it got better..

And I also belif, that one country need all the information it can be given US is on the brink of doing itself more harm than one contry have ever been doing. US today is looing at a trainwreck in action, you know it can be stoped, but as longer as it goes down to the cliff, the faster it goes, and more difficult it is, to stop the chatastrope.. To me it looks like the "far right" is using all the tools in the books, to dumb down the american population, to better rule you and controll what you know about the world. Ignorance is th new "mantra" for many americans it looks.. And you have this pundits, both in small and large groups, who are praying on this, and scare americans to belife that they have to vote for the most badshit madness to be safe and secure.. Many of the old conservatives in the Republican Party,would have turned around in their graves, if they had known, what their ancestors, and their party have become.. The Tea Party organisation, and the extreme rights (neo-cons and its like) who have hi-jacked the conservatives idea, to twits it to something that it never was ment to be, is just horrible..
To me, as a forreinger, I fear that US would go the same road as other regimes, where population is been held in ignorance, to be better controlled by shaddow powers.. The nazi-germany, before Hitler got the idea of making wars all the time, goes me to the mind.. Some parts of the extreme right in US, looks really similar to parts of the nazi-party. Spending cuts for social programs, when you are using all your money to bankroll a extreme exxecive military force, who are far bigger than your need are to protect your borders.. Weapons who have no place what so ever in a "defence mode":. And bases all over the planet.

Just imagine yourself, if US had spend 1/3 of what they are now using of miliary spending, on social programs, and a crumbling infrastructure, you could have rebuild all of US.. over the next decade.. And made US a far bigger player for the future.. One of the reason US was made a superpower after world war two, was the interst in building up an infrastructure no one else had at the time.. And also a lot of programs, social and educational programs who gave ten of thousands of americans the posibility for a higher education, that their parents never had the posibility to do.. That is the REASON US won the moon race in 1969.. And of course, you had the money to spend on the race to the moon.. Education is a mighty power. Even tho it is long since the moon landing I belive US have a lot to offer, in other ways to "moon" landings.. Specially inside US.. US is a great nation, with a great past, and a great future.. But US have to wake up from the ignorance they are in now. And make a desision to what they want to do in the future.. Ruin itself to make bombs, or rebuild, and made the US a far better nation than it is today.. You can't do both.. US have to shoose between been a mighty superpower when it came to military - or to be a superpower when it came to education, and social prorams.. What US need is a new FDR and Kenney, Johnson in one person.. That is a big shallenge I fear..

War is just waste of money and human sacrifices.. If US really want to be a power in the future, they have to change the tool, and then REALLY be the superpower they want to be.. I know US can be one of the nations, who can show us how the future can be.. At the moment, it dosen't look to good for the future, that be for US or for the rest of the world.. Greed can ruin a lot of future...

But I also belif, that we, human kind, can, and wil do what is right, after we have allmoust screwed ourself out of existence.. We have the posibility to do gread good, if we just want to do that..

Diclotican

or some similar organization. I know I'd give a couple of hundred dollars, that I don't have to spare, to help put a satellite or two into outer space that would allow unfettered access to the internet world wide. At least until the Russians, Americans, or Chinese shot it down, it would be free access around the corporate assholes.

loudsue

If it was posible to do it.. To get information, real unfethered information about what is happending around the world.. Then I belive many are willing to help build up a network of independed up/down links who can give us free information from shources we might never hear about today..

And if enough peopole is shipping in, it can also build satelites to make it posible.. A decent communication satelite in geo could not cost more than a couple of houndred million dollars.. And give all who are willing to spend a little money, what they need to get information...

On the other side, the internet of today, can also give us the same information (maybe not in all country's thats true) but it exist a lot of different sites, where we can get information you maybe else would never hear about.. Like DU, who are a gould mine when it came to information and have been that for a long time.. Many forms of information that I would never know about, if I have had not had DU, is out on different boards under the umbrella of DU. And its a lot of pointes to all other type of sites, where you can get information about everything..

The internet is full of information, the trouble is about getting the information, not the information itself.

Diclotican

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