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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:05 PM
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Bill O'Reilly attributes tides to The Deity, not the moon!
:rofl:

You just can't make this shit up!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/5/933554/-Bill-OReilly:-God-causes-the-tides-not-the-moon

O'Reilly is interviewing American Atheists president Dave Silverman, and we get this exchange...

O’Reilly: I’ll tell you why not a scam. In my opinion, all right? Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that. You can explain why the tide goes in...

Silverman: Tide goes in, tide goes out...?

O’Reilly: Yeah, see, the water — the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always goes in...

Silverman: Maybe it’s Thor up on Mount Olympus who’s making the tides go in and out...

O’Reilly: No no, but you can’t explain that... you can’t explain it...


Are the teabaggers in the right-wing base really that stupid? Guess so...
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:06 PM
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1. Good Lord, did Silverman at least attempt to explain it to him? nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:08 PM
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2. Aside from sarcastically attributing it to Thor on Mount Olympus?
It is very difficult to talk over the man with the biggest bladder-to-brain ratio in the business...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:08 PM
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3. Yes, Silverman's answer is just as lame. Does he get around mentioning the moon?
:dunce:
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:14 PM
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7. Just watched , it was lame. If only he would have schooled
O"Reilly on his own show. I'm sure someone will tell him and he'll be backtracking tonight by claiming to be "mis-quoted".
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:08 PM
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26. Maybe he did. If it was The Factor it was probably edited out.
O'Reilly will not show anything that puts him in a bad light.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:41 PM
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36. Highly unlikely, or it would have been mentioned by DKos.
In that exchange, they were both lame. Too bad. I'll bet he's kicking himself now. I know I would be.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:02 PM
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37. Yeah after watching it again I think you are right
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 07:02 PM by walldude
that guy was as lame as BillO. How can anyone let something like that slide? "Tide goes in. Tide goes out. You can't explain it. "

Gee I can. In terms even BillO can understand.

You see Bill when the moon orbits the earth it is on an ellipse. When the moon gets closer to the earth gravity makes the tide go up. When the moon moves away the tide goes down. Happens twice a day! It's a fucking miracle!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:08 AM
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43. that explanation does not sound right either though
It is not the moon's revolution which is changing throughout the day, it is the spinning of the earth that is doing that.


But obviously that does not happen on The Factor.












Because it is a no-spin zone.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:25 PM
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10. The question is do you have to?
Wait, I guess you do - people are ignorant enough that they actually elected teabaggers into Congress, so yeah, you'd have to explain something that you'd think everyone would have learned in elementary school...

Still, I hope Olbermann lampoons Billo over this on Countdown...
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:11 PM
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21. No, because that is an invite to a rhetorical "god of the gaps" line, and Silverman knows that

Here's how the game goes...

You don't know where tides come from.

Yes, they come from the gravity of the moon and sun.

But where do the moon and sun come from?

(blah, blah, blah)...

But where did the big bang come from?

Well, nobody knows.

AHA! See.. you don't know!

Basically, the point is to follow a line of "why does X happen" to the point where the answer is "I don't know" and then to declare that to be "God".

The problem with the "god of the gaps" is that every time you learn something, your god gets smaller.

I liked Silverman's answer better - assign the "god of the gaps" to a god in which your questioner does not believe. That's IMHO, more effective, because then the questioner has to explain why EVERY OTHER GOD EXCEPT HIS doesn't exist.

Anyone who believes in a god is an atheist with respect to every other religion but one.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:05 PM
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24. Touche! Silverman's a smart debater.
Besides, we always have Olbermann to rebut O'Reilly's ignorance in Worst Persons In The World!
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:14 PM
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33. No, it was a crappy answer if left at that, because everyone knows Silverman doesn't believe in Thor
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 06:14 PM by muriel_volestrangler
or the gods who were said to live on Mount Olympus (of which Thor wasn't one, of course). So his answer just looks like "your god is no more believable than other peoples' gods were". And the point is that the regularity of the tides has been explained, by science, for hundreds of years - when O'Reilly's Roman Catholic church was keeping Galileo under house arrest for proclaiming that same science.

Do I think O'Reilly would have enough confidence to keep asking "why is that?" and getting solid scientific answers again and again, until finally they got to The Big Bang? No. If he was prepared for that, he would have started with that. But he can't even afford to mention the Big Bang, because half of his idiotic audience thinks the universe is only 6,000 years old, Noah's Ark was real, and a talking snake condemned humanity to lifetimes of suffering for eating a fruit.

Just one bit of "it's the gravity of the Moon and the Sun pulling the water around the Earth's surface, and that's why the periods of tides are linked to the periods of the Moon and the Sun", would be a good, correct answer that shows O'Reilly as ignorant.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:09 PM
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4. Good God
Just when you think you've heard everything that you think you could hear from that network, then they go and top themselves.

K&R.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:12 PM
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5. Theology from Loofa-Boy
Did he tell the atheist that if the sun shines when it's raining, the devil is beating his wife?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:12 PM
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6. Does he also attribute Tide to God rather than Procter & Gamble?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:15 PM
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8. Maybe O'Reilly is a Romantic and doesn't believe in all that physics sh*t.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 01:20 PM by Democrats_win
Oh wait, there never was a greater oxymoron than O'Reilly and Romantic. His muse is a loofah.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:17 PM
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9. I've suspected for several years that he's actually a closet Muslim
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:25 PM
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11. That's just about as stupid as the nimrods who walked out on Bill Nye
the Science Guy because he said the moon doesn't emit light; it reflects it. The stupid shits in the audience said the Bible says the moon emits light, so THAT'S what THEY believed.

God, this country is dumb.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:26 PM
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12. Republicans and science
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:28 PM
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13. Holy crap!
We're on a spinning marble affected by the gravity of the moon. Let's see Bill O'Reilly walk across the room holding a tub of water and see if he can do it without seeing the water slosh a bit.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:31 PM
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14. Silverman really dropped the ball on this one.
He should've shown everyone how big of an idiot O'Reilly was on his own show*.

*Yes, I know O'Reilly does that very well on his own, but it would've been a lot better if someone else did it.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:32 PM
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15. A simple question like "do you understand how gravity works,
Bill" would have made him look like the fool he is.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:34 PM
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17. Exactly.
Not some stupid sarcastic comment that was a fail at humor.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:33 PM
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16. F*cking magnets, how do they work?
It turns out that O'Falafel has a lot more in common with Insane Clown Posse than I originally thought.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fcking-magnets-how-do-they-work
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:35 PM
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18. +1
:rofl:
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 07:48 PM
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38. And Velcro....how do explain Velcro? It is obviously the result of an intelligent designer.

It didn't just evolve !!!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:53 PM
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19. People who watch him must be really delusional...he may be even dumber than Palin!,,,nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:07 PM
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20. Eeerily paralleling some of the arguments we saw in during DU-s "Don't Bomb The Moon!"-a-thon.
Yes, crashing a centaur upper stage into the lunar surface could have all manner of spooky tidal effects and effects on the Earth's as well as the Moon's (!) "Biosphere". :rofl:



More proof that Science education has gone way downhill in this country, although O'Reilly is such an old fuck he doesn't even have that as an excuse.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:28 PM
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35. That's true - I'd forgotten the woeful record of some DUers on basic science
Sometimes this is the only response left: :banghead:

However, The Catholic church only took Galileo's books off their 'banned' list in 1824, so O'Reilly may just be an Old School Catholic.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:13 PM
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22. Why would the norse god of thunder be hanging around the home of the Greek gods...
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:03 PM
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23. Dunno - maybe they had some reeeeeally good ambrosia?
Or maybe he was having Hephaestus tune up Mjöllnir?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:41 PM
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29. Marshmellows and Jello.....
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:59 PM
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25. Odin kicked him out of their place again. NT
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:41 PM
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30. He's on Disney now with the other Avengers....
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:37 AM
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44. Maybe Hercules invited him.
They've both Avengers after all.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:09 PM
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27. Science isn't Billy's best area
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:11 PM
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28. Tonight on the Factor: Gravity and the Hand of God.
That's right, gravity is a scientific scam designed to make us all into atheists. There is no gravity, God is holding everything down.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:44 PM
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31. Oh God, please explain it to your idiot follower. He is lost.
Tide goes in...tide goes out er what was teh question again? I'm feeling reaallll stupid right now.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:59 PM
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32. I can't watch O'Reilly
He gives me a headache.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 06:18 PM
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34. also, rainbows
how to explain that, other than God?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:37 AM
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39. Maybe he believes in the Moon God or Goddess
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:49 AM
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40. He's right
"I know I'm not the smartest guy in town."

Well said , Falafel Boy! Can we quote you on that?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:51 AM
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41. Does Bill worship Isis? Astarte?
He's so dumb.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:56 AM
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42. Bill, oh Bill that is that sciency stuff
you slept through... serious.

But I must say it, that magical thinking is lovely.

And Mr. Silverman naughty, it is not Zeus... it is Odin... everybody knows that!

:lol: indeed.
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