Liberty University Grad is the new principal at my son's school...Should I be concerned?

I know that the principal is not in the classroom but I wonder how much influence he may have over his teachers.

This man went to Liberty Univ. for undergrad and UNC-G for doctorate in Ed.

I'm fine with the degree from UNC-G but Liberty is anti-gay, ultra-conservative, and "teaches" the Young Earth Creationism crap (6000 year old earth, evolution wrong, etc.)

Should I be worried about this?

I'm not even slightly worried about that.

prinicpal will have. He will not be in the classroom teaching.

In others the might be a door stop. That's a hard call. Just be prepared to take any decision you find objectionable directly to the superintendent and if needed, to the school board.

that is actionable.

The guy may have gotten a scholarship or something to that school. I was offered one to attend Wheaton College by the church I attended. I declined, because I could afford to go to my school of choice. Not everyone has that option.

It's not a matter of IF but WHEN.

If I owned a business where I had to hire employees, anyone with a degree from there would go right into the circular filing can. I live in Tulsa, and I would put ORU on that list as well.

TlalocW

That's the unofficial name for ORU.

When Richard Roberts and his family were being drummed out of the university leadership for mismanaging funds with the university over 50 million in debt. I was so hoping that that would be the death knell of that place, and we could knock down those ugly buildings and turn it into a park or something, but then they went and got a president who knew about money management, and I think they're less than $500,000 in debt now. :(

TlalocW

The best way to kill creationism in schools is to force one who supports it to describe what it predicts.

They can't.

We have one at the local high school. She is a "nurse" who steers kids away from local reproductive health providers.

He lacks a real bachelor's degree.

not his thoughts or beliefs. But watch, pay attention and be prepared to act. You should always do this - even with folks who you think share your beliefs and agenda.

It is hypocritical to embrace diversity and tolerance and then condemn someone because they think or believe differently. That's the kind of shit I expect from fundamentalists of various stripes.

If he acts inappropriately that is an entirely different matter. Be prepared to confront him if necessary.

That tells me a whole hell of a lot about a person if they choose to do that.

Would you say the same if the OP was titled "My Principal is a member of the KKK"? No, I think we would all be fine saying that person is a douchebag. Same thing with a degree from Liberty. The fact that the person could go there for four years without leaving of vomiting says something.

You fail to recognize that
(1) In some communities church attendance and religious affiliation is a matter of social standing and opportunity.
(2) Some young people are sent to Christian schools and colleges by their families - and they do not fully recognize the implications of attending those schools.
(3) Some young people attend Christian schools and colleges because they are awarded scholarships and other forms of financial assistance that would otherwise be unavailable to them - and which enables them to get a college education.


If someone is not violating someone else's rights then their training, education, and/or religious faith should be of little concern to you.

You have condemned this school principle because you do not approve of his religious beliefs or his personal associations. Congratulations. That sounds like your own personal version of McCarthyism which condemned people because of their political beliefs and personal associations.

Personally, I choose to embrace tolerance rather than bigotry. I prefer to judge others based on their conduct rather than the intentions and motives I might wrongfully attribute to them. And I absolutely believe in censorship.

Would you give him the same break if you knew he was a member of the KKK? Does your tolerance and judging on conduct extend to that? Because the difference on the scale between the views of Liberty and the KKK is not all that great. It is just a small step. And your points 1, 2, and 3 could all be applied in some way to the KKK.

I would give him a chance to prove me wrong but I would go in worried about him because of where he got his degree. Just like I would be of any lawyer that got their JD from there. There is a lot of history to back up those worries if you look at the grads.

has people in it that advance their goals. And every organization has people in it that undermine their goals. There have been a number of people over the decades - notably members of law enforcement - that have been associated with the KKK for reasons that had nothing to do with advancing their agenda.

I agree and have pointed out that there is reason to be viglent in observing this principle's actions and confronting any improprieities. However, that same vigilence should be practiced regardless of who fills the position.

You judged and condemned this principle on the basis of his religious beliefs and personal associations. Without any evdence you assumed that his religious beliefs mirror those of the educational institution where he earned his degree. That ain't necessarily so.

I live in the buckle of the Bible belt and, like others, was sent to a Christian school. I know ORU grads, Liberty University grads, Regent University grads and a number of grads from various state universities. I know a practicing Wiccan with an ORU degree. I know a Christian college grad that earns his livlihood as bailbondsmen - not exactly the stuff of religious conservatism. I know a gay Christian college grad who operates a bed and breakfast on Bourbon Street. I know a gay pastor who works tirelessly to advance progressive causes - and to lend practical help to people in real need. I know more gay Christian college grads than I can count. By the time I finished Christian school most of my colleagues and classmates figured we had fulfilled a lifetime of church and chapel obligations and quickly withdrew from church activities and religious life.

Those who graduates from State University are not cut from the same mold. They are each unique individuals. Same is true of those who graduate from Christian schools, colleges and universities. Only bigots feel the need to assume they are all cut from the same cloth.

Bigotry of all forms is offensive. Religious bigotry and intolerance is no more acceptable than racism or any other form of discrimination.

and your powder dry. That is a huge red flag, IMO. Falwall's fraud is nothing better than a diploma mill for the tealiban.

Keep your eyes peeled for any shenanigans this guy might try to pull.

Is your son's school a public school?

Do you have open enrollment?

Those people are cerifiable.

They aren't all mouth-breathers. See what he does.

But *I* certainly would be.

-Hoot

i'd home school before i sent my kid there now.

maybe you can ask him about his scientific understanding - ask him if he acknowledges the reality of evolution or if he thinks creationism is a valid "competing opinion." If he thinks creationism is valid science - I would not want my child in a school under the authority of such a person.

I would also not want my school district to hire such a person because it's effing unbelievable to do so considering the reality that educated people know that creationism is not valid science.

But maybe that's not his pov.

That's why I would ask. Anyone involved in the education of children who refuses to acknowledge science fact should not be in charge of children, imo.

Liberty University's graduates are trained "break the rules" as a means to instate their reactionary agenda.

Give him a chance. He might be okay.

I went to a conservative evangelical Christian college; by the time I really figured out how bad it was, my education classes wouldn't have transferred, so I stayed and graduated from that pit of hell, but that doesn't mean that I agree with anything those people say.

He might be one who's drunk the kool-aid, but he might not be. He might be like many of us who can't change the transcript but wish we could.

my daughter was in 4th grade this year. I am also a teacher in the same school.

My daughter's teacher was fantastically good, and she kept her views out of the classroom.

I'm in a fairly conservative area, but not as bad as say Georgia, Texas, Florida....Where are you from?

in part due to its outstanding theater program. Odd move. Maybe he saw the light in grad school. I don't think intolerance would play well at UNCG.

Yes, it is the teacher that has the most impact on the student, but a good principal can make things fabulous and a bad one can make things suck.

I would be worried about ANYONE with a degree from Liberty.

especially if he is in cahoots with a right wing school board...

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" with associations from such places. Keep an eye out on all of them, monitor them, report them, and be prepared to take action.

Eli Broad (rhymes with rode) is funded by the Koch Brothers to 'train and deploy' Pricipals to preach conservative values and turn public schools into charter schools.