There were 20 Dem defectors who didn't vote for Pelosi! Nice statement, assholes. nt

gateley

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Wed Jan-05-11 01:44 PM
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There were 20 Dem defectors who didn't vote for Pelosi! Nice statement, assholes. nt

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bbinacan

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Wed Jan-05-11 01:47 PM
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1. Who'd they vote for? n/t

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FBaggins

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Wed Jan-05-11 02:01 PM
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2. Heath Shuler mostly

A couple votes for John Lewis and at least one "present" vote.

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butterfly77

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Wed Jan-05-11 02:03 PM
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3. He said the day after the election ..

that now he can work with the CONS to get things done.He voted for himself from what I could hear..

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FBaggins

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Wed Jan-05-11 02:24 PM
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6. Why run if you're not willing to vote for yourself?

I'm pretty sure that Pelosi voted for herself. I understand that Costa and Cardoza voted for each other... which it almost certainly a deal to vote for yourself without voting for yourself.

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LynneSin

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Wed Jan-05-11 02:04 PM
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4. Dear Heath - you were a crappy football player and even worse congressman

Just switch to the republican party pul-lease!

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Kalyke

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:49 PM
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10. He actually wasn't that crappy in college, though.

U of Tenn grad here - in fact, I graduated a couple of years after Heath. :hi:

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LynneSin

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Wed Jan-05-11 04:18 PM
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15. He's just a long list of great college QBs that never transitioned well into the NFL

n/t

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Poboy

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:50 PM
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11. Heath Shuler was Gatorbait for four years. Just like Peyton,

He NEVER beat Florida. Go Gators. That is all.

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onenote

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Wed Jan-05-11 02:05 PM
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5. Here is the roll call vote

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll002.xml

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gateley

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:39 PM
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7. Thanks. nt

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Reader Rabbit

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:46 PM
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9. Anyone know why DeFazio didn't vote?

He's gotta be one of the most progressive and fractious members of the Democratic Party. I'm wondering if there's a statement behind it.

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Freddie Stubbs

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:57 PM
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13. He certainly didn't want Pelosi as Minority Leader:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/defazio-forces-secret-ballot-vote-on-delaying-dem-leadership-elections.php

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theophilus

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Wed Jan-05-11 04:00 PM
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14. Mike Ross is a TOOL, imo. nt

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tabasco

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:46 PM
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8. Was this some kind of Politburo thing where everybody had to vote for the same guy?

I thought elections were necessary because more than one person is a candidate.

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dsc

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Wed Jan-05-11 03:56 PM
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12. actually yes

Edited on Wed Jan-05-11 03:56 PM by dsc

the dems are supposed to vote for the dem and the pubs for the pub. The election takes place within the caucuses.

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tabasco

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Wed Jan-05-11 05:12 PM
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17. Well, that's pretty messed up

if there ain't two Democrats to vote for.

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dsc

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Wed Jan-05-11 05:18 PM
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18. that is what the caucus if for

heath and anyone else who wanted to were perfectly able to run against her in the caucus. He did, as a matter of fact. He lost, fair and square. After that it is time to show unity. To put this in perspective. If the majority were 218 to 217, if he had pulled this stunt we would have a GOP speaker even though we have a majority of Democrats.

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onenote

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Wed Jan-05-11 05:21 PM
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20. The election ultimately takes place on the House floor

But, in the past few decades at least, the expectation is that the vote will be along party lines with the designated candidate of each caucus splitting the vote. If you check the votes for speaker over the past 20 years, you'll see that the vote generally is split between two candidates, one Democrat, one Republican. There usually are a couple of no shows and/or a couple of folks who voted present. In 1997, around eight or nine repubs either voted for someone other than Gingrich or voted present. And between 2001 and 2005, Gene Taylor voted for Murtha rather than for the designated caucus nominee (Gephardt or Pelosi).

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Ptah

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Wed Jan-05-11 04:45 PM
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16. Assholes?

http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/pueblo-politics/article_9d384460-190d-11e0-9498-001cc4c002e0.html

U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords voted against Nancy Pelosi as leader of the House Democrats Wednesday.

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Grijalva could not be reached for immediate comment but a Giffords� spokesman said Lewis serves as a �bright, guiding light� for Americans.

�The congresswoman�s vote for Rep. John Lewis signaled her desire for courageous leadership and high moral standards at a critical time in our nation�s history,� said Giffords� spokesman, C.J. Karamargin. �He is one of our nation�s most prominent civil rights leaders and a hero to all Americans.�

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librechik

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Wed Jan-05-11 05:18 PM
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19. that's about right. Those are the Blue Dogs, and Shuler is their leader

wish they would change parties--or learn how important solidarity is to a coalition.

Ha ha. Too much to hope for.

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