Have you ever seen a place that was straight lost in time?

Some of the posts about Korea and China made me think of my last deployment...

It was weird because you knew for an absolute fact that 95% of what these folks did on a daily basis, they had been doing that way for centuries. This was especially true when you weren't in a "city"

Stacking rocks, cooking bread, building houses etc.. etc.. etc.. Coulda plucked em up, dropped em back a millennium and they would be good to hook. Weird

Anyone else know places like that?

So desolate.

some of them still have Main Street and lack box stores! Can ya diggit?

I have encountered pretty much the same in some parts of Mongolia, Nepal and Tibet.

You have to get there before the fucking missionaries arrive.

I could tell some great stories about Amazon basin, but I would just piss myself off.

Sonoman

I was in Burkina Faso, Niger and Tunisia last year, and, if you can get into the countryside, you feel as if you are in a very far-away land.

I would have loved to have been in Afghanistan in the 60s.

Sonoman

That would have been amazing.

I know folks who went in the mid '70s & brought the skunk seed back to Humboldt. :hippie:

I am easy to find.

Sonoman

with absolutely no food except for a fruit that grows in thorny vines. They prepare it many ways. But that's all they have. Period. It was in Namibia. These people do have someone working with them to try and get kids some education.

Same episode he visits Bushman near Kalahari Desert. They are living in stone age.

In school I studied the textiles made by the Kuna in Panama.

They spend a lot less time "working", and way more time story telling and dancing, than we do.

They missed most of the 20th century. Some say they never left the 19th.

:D
(sorry-- Cheers was on right when I read your post)

Sam (with a big leak on his hands): "Hey, Cliff! What do you know about plumbing?"

Cliff: "It was invented by the early Romans"

Sung to When the Saints Go Marching In

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You border on the A-dri-atic

They have this light rock that can be cut and quarried with a metal saw and used just like modern day concrete block is. In fact, after the building is stuccoed, you can't tell which was used to build it. I understand it has been done like this for 2500 years, but that is only because some visiting Greeks wrote down what they observed when a building was going up. Could have been going on even earlier.

Pretty pre-industrial revolution, roadside huts, low-tech foods and fuel and such.

But never far from one project or another.

I didn't take pictures but one shocking sight was the use of a machine cutting a swath through the jungle, for what I do not know.

Anyway, if industrialized people and cities and such all went "poof", away in a act of un-creation, these people would carry on, happy as can be and, apparently, quite healthy, too.

:patriot:

I grew up there.

I moved there from England

While the others have some modern conveniences, High Amana was left in the 1930s or was when we visited about a decade ago.
No cars, one general store that had products from - yep - the 30s or so it seemed.

you could see how they would make little mud huts by shaping the mud into bricks over fires, with the fire being made from charcoal created by burning eucalyptus trees, so they start w. sticks and mud and eventually have a house, a shitty house with palm leaves for a roof, but a house

i don't romanticize this crap, that's for sure, yeah, you could drop em back in the stone age and they wouldn't notice a thing different, but it wasn't exactly an enviable lifestyle

the life expectancy is what? mid forties?

Nothing romantic there.. that is a hard dirty filthy life...

I'll go, but I want to do it right.

Sonoman

Are you looking to travel in a rural area? Do you speak the language?

upstate NY.

There were some places where you'd go and it would be like 1950 never stopped, if you could put your finger on the time period at all. This was a long time ago, admittedly, back in the early/mid 80's before I moved. The farther you'd head South...the present would just bleed away leaving a world which had long-since passed.

I actually yearn to visit some of those places again, if they remain. Also, I know there are many parts of the country like this. I'd like to visit those places. It's about as close to time travel as one is likely to get.

And there's a feel, a certain musty smell crossed with the faintest hint of licorice or anise. Those distant places and their bare 60-watt bulbs swinging over a diner's lunch counter twice as old as I am. Cheap wood-paneled walls, formica tables in whose glittery reflection one can almost make out a black and white TV with President Kennedy on it. Like a time machine.

PB

they only had television since June 1999.
Timeless, isolated. Like entering a different dimension.

It could have been 1960 or 2010 maybe even 1920 if you looked a certain way. The one and only working gas station still has a cage where they kept a real live black bear. Pretty much everything in the "downtown" area is 100+ years old or from the late 50s...they had devastating flash floods in ~1905 and again in 1960. Basically, no one seems to have had the energy to rebuild after the 1960 flood. Weird town, weird vibe.

Exactly as you described!

Especially among native people.

But they all had TV antennas.

The tv runs on a car battery many a times.

They're stuck in the McCarthy era.

in terms of their social relations (semifeudal) and infrastructure (nothing). you will encounter actual peasants - semi-proletarians - who spend part of their time working for a wage, and another part of their time as tenant farmers. the rest of thir time they dissolve into the surplus population, they return to the immense indian sub-proletariat.

Social structures required a whole new way of thinking and rebuilding that infrastructure was a nightmare (often because of the social issues)

but that requires ability and inclination that the indian government simply doesn't have.

A P'urhepecha town. THere are conveniences there...and then you hit the outskirts. Whew. It was crazy to see.

that had clearly stopped developing, at least economically, in the 1970s. I visited in 1999 and it was weird. I half expected people to be walking around in bell bottoms and platform sandals.

The big cities like Seoul, Pusan and Taegu are modern and cosmopolitan places, but go twenty miles from Tongduchon or Pyongtaek (it's 60 miles south of Seoul; the capital of North Korea is PyongYANG) and they might not know what year it is.

She graduated from high school in 1952. When she went to her 50th class reunion, it had been over 20 years since she'd set foot in the town.

As she walked down the main street, several people came out to greet her. Some of them hadn't seen her since she was about 20.

they were from another era,of course, that's a plus as far as I'm concerned, I love old towns that don't look like every other cookie cutter town in the U.S.
Lots of towns like that in the U.P. of Michigan too.

There reaction was, "What's the big deal? Most people live and farm like this in India."

but as a house cleaner, there were a few houses that were just the way they furnished them in the 60s or 70s. Flooring, furnishings, everything. After a few hours cleaning in a house like that, it was nice to get outside and see the new cars and listen to some new music to remember "when" we really were!!

The cars are different, a lot of the small shops have gone out of business, and now there's a Walmart off the north end of town. But in the ways that count, it's the same.