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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 07:49 PM
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Rand Paul-Supposed Defender Of Civil Liberties-Calls For Jailing People Who Attend ‘Radical Politica
Edited on Tue May-31-11 08:06 PM by kpete
Source: Think Progress

Rand Paul, Supposed Defender Of Civil Liberties, Calls For Jailing People Who Attend ‘Radical Political Speeches’
By Alex Seitz-Wald on May 31, 2011 at 8:00 pm

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) made headlines last week for single-handedly obstructing the renewal of the Patriot Act, calling the law an unconstitutional infringement on civil liberties. His demand to insert a series of amendments to weaken the law nearly allowed it to lapse and put the country at “risk,” but Paul said it was worth it to prevent the government from continuing to “blatantly ignor the Constitution.” But when Paul went on Fox News host Sean Hannity’s radio show Friday to discuss his opposition to the national security law, he suggested implementing a far more serious infringement on civil liberties. While discussing profiling at airports, Paul called for the criminalization of speech:


PAUL: I’m not for profiling people on the color of their skin, or on their religion, but I would take into account where they’ve been traveling and perhaps, you might have to indirectly take into account whether or not they’ve been going to radical political speeches by religious leaders. It wouldn’t be that they are Islamic. But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/default/2011/05/31/232182/rand-paul-criminalize-speech/
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 07:54 PM
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1. Does this surprise anyone?
He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Bake
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:07 PM
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4. He's not even the sharpest spoon!
And we are stuck with this poor excuse for an intelligent human being in the Senate for 6 years!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:12 PM
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8. I live in KY, and on behalf of Kentuckians, I apologize (again) to the rest of the country
for Rand Paul ...

Bake
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:21 PM
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22. he's not even a knife. nt
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 07:58 PM
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2. Someone promoting violent overthrow of our government? Like Rush?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 07:59 PM
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3. Or Teabaggers? Or militia groups??
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:07 PM
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5. Whoa! That'd put a lot of teabaggers and batshit crazy evangelicals in jail
real quick. Hmmm... Let's think about this one! :sarcasm: *for those that need it spelled out...
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:08 PM
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6. How about jailing people who are "palling around with terrorists"?
In other words, who decides what's radical. Since it's Hannity he said this too, Hannity calls everything radical if it's not Republican.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:09 PM
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7. Whose speechs are radical?
Rand Pauls?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:13 PM
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9. countdown to "Patriot Act Opponents Were Duped by Koch" article in 3, 2 ...
:P
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:16 PM
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10. Half the rightwingers in their so-called Christian Churches would be deported or sent to prison.
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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:24 PM
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11. The gentleman lacks a certain level of acumen
Sometimes I think people running for Congress (House or Senate) should have to pass a few tests in order qualify. IQ, might be helpful, Civics, Constitution (for what that's worth), and perhaps a psychological test for sanity.

I'm joking, sort of.. I know I know... It would be unconsitutional.. but since it's just a worthless piece of paper these days, maybe we ought to consider an amendment to establish basic intelligence, and reasoning skills. at the mimimum.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:30 PM
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12. I was under the impression
that the government has already been "overthrown" by corporate interests for a while now.

Of course, they don't want their current version to be violently overthrown since they did it slowly, smoothly and gradually with only enough violence, (covert?) to adjust certain, pesky situations along the path to victory.

Damned if they are going to let anyone ruin the perfect setup they have as they adjust public perception to give the impression that the government is anything but a representation of America Inc.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:33 PM
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13. It would cost a LOT of $$ to gather that kind of info on people
Following them around, tracking their movements to see what "speeches" they attended, etc. And then the added cost of making that info available to the airlines and TSA.

Fiscally irresponsible.

And brain-dead stupid too.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:38 PM
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14. Would that include radical Christian priests who tell a certain Caribou shootin'
diva that she was ordained by God to be President?
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:47 PM
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15. Perspective is everything
"But if someone is attending speeches from someone who is promoting the violent overthrow of our government, that’s really an offense that we should be going after — they should be deported or put in prison." Rand Paul R Douchebag

How about if we are listening to Bush espousing the violent overthrow of another sovereign nation?

I see! It's perfectly acceptable if we do it.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:54 PM
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16. Sounds like a good plan
It will put most of his base in jail, which can only be good for everybody else.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:56 PM
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17. By his own argument, all of his supporters should be in jail
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 09:27 PM
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18. More proof that ''libertarian'' is just ''right-winger with a hipster veneer''.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 09:56 PM
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19. Does he mean radical political speakers like Pat Robertson and Franklin Graham??
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:13 PM
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20. Rand's vision is not 20/20.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:16 PM
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21. I guess that includes 2nd amendment remedies too?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 07:48 AM
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23. didn't take long for him to get his nazi on, did it? nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:27 AM
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24. a Libertarian is an Anarchist that wants police protection from his slaves.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:38 AM
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27. THAT? Is the dang best definition EVER.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 09:12 AM
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29. Odin, that is brilliant
You just won the internets. :)
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:35 AM
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25. so what would he call people who stomp on the opposition's face at political events?
Oh that's right, he calls them supporters.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:37 AM
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26. Whoa. A lot of undercover agents will get sent to the Big House! ;-)
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-11 08:40 AM
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28. No surprises there

Libertarianism was created specifically to oppose socialism/communism.

All of this security state bullshit has little to do with 'radical Islamists' and everything to do with us. They know that all of this 'austerity' that they're throwing down will lead to radicalization of at least some of the populace.

They are getting ready, are we?
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