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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:48 PM
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The Jig Is Up: Yfrog Disables E-mail Upload Service; Anthony Weiner Stands Vindicated
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 01:50 PM by kpete
The Jig Is Up: Yfrog Disables E-mail Upload Service; Anthony Weiner Stands Vindicated
byphenry

The blog Cannonfire, which closed the case yesterday on the so-called "Weinergate" affair when it demonstrated conclusively how anyone could use a simple technique to publish any picture they wanted to another person's Twitter stream, now reports that yfrog.com has disabled the e-mail service that enables such exploits, thereby acknowledging the existence of a security problem and tacitly acknowledging that it has been abused. In short, it is no longer possible for a reasonable person to believe that Rep. Weiner was not framed by an outside party.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2011/06/has-yfrog-responded-to-yesterdays-post.html


...............

Yfrog has not issued a statement about why this service has been disabled, but I think we can assume it is not a coincidence. Bear in mind that the site's operators would have access to all of their server logs and it should be a fairly trivial task to determine exactly which e-mail account had been used to send each picture uploaded to yfrog using the e-mail service, even if the site itself had not been architected to store this information with each photo as internally visible metadata. If the supposedly incriminating photo had been uploaded to Rep. Weiner's account from an e-mail address he had never used before, this would be immediately apparent.

MORE (plus links):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/02/981422/-The-Jig-Is-Up:-Yfrog-Disables-E-mail-Upload-Service;-Anthony-Weiner-Stands-Vindicated?via=siderec
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:50 PM
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1. Key word, "reasonable person" - I don't think there are many of them and few in the "liberal media.
:shrug:
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Ship of Fools Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:55 PM
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3. i agree
if they can still insist that BO is a Muslim/commie/pinko/socialist/whatever after a long-form birth certificate, then certainly AW is STILL guilty of sending a pic to a woman who denies ever knowing the man ... politics changed forever, thank you very much Sarah Fucking Palin.

just one woman's opinion.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 10:30 AM
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70. For me it has occurred that when no one else has come forward to
report similar emails from Weiner then there were none and it makes it even clearer that this is not his email. Also so close on the heals of the other NY naked chest congressman scandal this was an attempt to revenge the NY lose in a rethug area. Rethugs are bad looses. Weiner is totally the victim in this event.

This site you are illustrating should out their user.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #1
73. Whatr liberal media --that's pretty much Rachel and Schultz ...
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:22 PM
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76. I agree. That's why I put "liberal media" in quotes. (Except I ran out of space on the closing one.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:53 PM
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2. And now he faces a tough reelection and probably never a shot at the presidency.
Mission accomplished.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. Oh, I think just the opposite. People like him and much talk about
the possibility of his being our first Jewish President. Personally I would love that, he's smart, tough, and did not get emmy/oscar dramatized over this incident. He knew the truth would come out and just played it out.
The media looks really stupid right now...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. oh baloney. He'll be lucky if he isn't forced to resign.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:55 PM
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23. Never happen...n/t
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divine_truine Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #16
44. omg, you must be joking, right?
Resign? In breitfart's wettest dream/


Troll alert!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
31. Yes. Weiner came out the winner here.
That's my opinion.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #2
17. His district is solidly Democratic
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 03:36 AM
Response to Reply #2
52. I predict Presidents with near 100% accuracy
His name has always been his biggest obstacle but I think he will be President in 8 years or so, assuming we still have elections and all the other clap trap that surrounds "'Murkin Democracy".
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 04:09 AM
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56. Nonsense, he's going to be more popular than ever.
Most people are angry at the media for their stupid coverage of the biggest non-story of the century.

People do NOT like witch hunts. The Clinton witch hunt should have taught them that. People don't care about this trivia and find it appalling that with all that is going on in this country, CNN et al spent an entire weekend of valuable air-time on this garbage. The real story was Breitbart, who is funding him, why is he still operating after the numerous times he has been discredited and why does the media enable these smears.

Shame on CNN. I think they totally disgraced themselves this weekend and many, many people have told them that, Anderson Cooper and Wolfe Blitzer, on twitter and FB and anywhere they can find them.

Weiner will be fine, in fact this may get him MORE votes. It backfired. Even my Republican relatives were disgusted by the whole thing, wondering why this country doesn't discuss real issues, instead of this kind of infantile nonsense.

CNN outdid Fox on this non-story.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #56
61. Republican and their
corporate media handmaidens are still looking for another stained blue dress. The Clinton witch hunt that centered around a stained blue dress was the tip off that the media was in the Republican camp. I stopped watching TV news when Ken Starr would make daily appearances providing masturbation dialogue for the depraved who never had a blowjob.
More people are concluding that our media is propaganda that would make Goebbels look like a rank amateur. When the Russian people understood that they were being fed propaganda disguised as news Pravda, TAAS and Izvestia became national jokes.
The question for us is: When will our government collapse?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:56 PM
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4. Eh?
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 01:57 PM by Recursion
In short, it is no longer possible for a reasonable person to believe that Rep. Weiner was not framed by an outside party.

How do you figure? All I see is the discovery of a security hole, not evidence that it was used. Nor any indication of why the woman was among the less-than-1% of his Twitter followers that he followed back.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:58 PM
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6. That will come from the logs.
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RainFromAbove Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
33. Twitter logs
He should call the cops! They'd subpoena the logs, have this whole thing done in a day. Why hasn't he?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. He already answered that question
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fifthoffive Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Maybe she requested that he follow her
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 02:02 PM by fifthoffive
I haven't read or heard anything one way or the other, but sometimes people are trying to get followers and request that the people they follow, follow them as well.

I rarely use Twitter; only signed up to follow my kids. I have followers I never heard of even though I never tweet. Not sure how they found me or why they follow me.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 04:02 PM
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26. Your post made me smile.......
It sounds like me with facebook. I only signed up so that I could read my grown children's facebook's about my grandchildren. I have never posted on it but lots of people have asked me to friend them. I just ignore all of them. I told my husband that most people want to have lots of facebook friends, I want to be the first one who never has even one. lol
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
27. I have read that she sent him a request that he follow her.
I am guessing he agreed to follow her as a sort of friendly PR gesture.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:24 PM
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42. He invited any of his followers to send him a tweet asking him to follow them. n/t
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:23 PM
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40. That's exactly what happened. He invited his followers to ask HIM to follow THEM.
And a few of them took him up on the invitation.
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
46. Better than me....I signed up and don't even know where it is...
and I occasionally get followers (know by e-mail announcement). Never have posted:shrug:
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. It's an extraordinary claim, at this point.
The only "reason" a reasonable person would still suspect him is that he already stands accused by actors who have a stake in ruining his reputation. Manufacturing such a "reason" was their whole goal.

Why do you cling to this explanation?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Because he has explicitly said it's possible the picture is real (nt)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:03 PM
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19. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. Fail
Wrong. Next?
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. No, he said he couldn't be sure it wasn't a photoshop of something real
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 03:26 PM by starroute
He said he didn't recognize it but he couldn't swear it hadn't started off as a picture of him.

I think he was being overcautious, but my guess is that he'd rather seem unsure now than state confidently the picture has nothing to do with him and risk a small chance of being proved wrong later.

In any event, I expect this will all be pinned down in great detail before long.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. He also said explicitly HE DID NOT SEND IT (nt)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #24
65. He said he did not send it to the woman in Seattle
But nobody's saying he sent it to the woman in Seattle. The claim is that, while possibly trying to send it to her, he tweeted it publicly.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 03:39 AM
Response to Reply #15
53. Who cares if it's real?
All that matters is that he didn't send it to the young lady. Which he didn't.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #53
62. Well, that's an odd thing to say itself, since nobody is claiming he sent it to her
The claim is he (possibly trying to send it to her) tweeted it to all of his followers.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #12
49. Because the OP made a statement based on a logical fallacy
Edited on Thu Jun-02-11 11:23 PM by demwing
I believe Weiner is innocent, but the fact that there was a security hole does not prove, or even imply, that the security was breached.

It's like saying that the fact that a car is capable of being driven above the legal speed limit proves that someone has been speeding.

Also, identifying a flaw in your logic does not imply that said person disagrees with your overall conclusion-just the method that was used to arrive at that conclusion.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
39. I know why he was following her. It was reported in the Washington Post.
The reason is that he invited all of his followers who also wanted HIM to follow THEM to send to him a certain message -- and about 1% of them did.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. Fair enough. Nor why he mentioned "Seattle Time" in the prior tweet.
Nor, most mysteriously, why he's not certain if a picture is of his crotch or not.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 05:56 AM
Response to Reply #43
59. Well, from my experience, most male crotches look a like, despite
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 05:56 AM by fasttense
what men would like you to believe. The only real difference is in the type of under ware. We should all be thankful the pictures was not of a thong or speedo. ;-)
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #43
64. I suspect he has a lot of followers in Seattle.
Also, whoever hacked into the computer knew about the young woman because s/he had the tweet directed to her. The hacker probably had found out enough about her to know she lived in Washington. (She doesn't actually live in Seattle, she lives in Bellingham.)

But your last question is the one that I still have. There would be nothing wrong if he did have such a picture though, assuming he didn't send it to anyone he shouldn't have. But what he's saying just prolongs this incident.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #64
67. OK, but, particularly Seattle? Not, say, SFO? Chicago? Austin?
It's just weird that a tweet he acknowledges he made, not long after the fake tweet, mentions Seattle.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
92. you have an interesting point of view: guilty until proven innocent
No wonder you're not satisfied
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. It would be pretty easy to get hold of the server logs...
in question..
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
28. I hope his lawyers subpoena them, if that is possible. nt
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 01:59 PM
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7. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Uncle Joe
do you fish?
my Uncle Joe loved to fish more than anything.

again, thanks for being there to remind me of some of my favorite people...I can picture him on his boat...

peace, kpete
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. I
grew up fishing on creeks, lakes and rivers, once I went deep sea fishing near Panama City, Florida, that was a blast.

kpete, you're one of my favorite people as well and I consider you to be a DU treasure.

Peace to you, Uncle Joe.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:05 PM
Response to Original message
10. You'd better send this to M$Greedia
These assholes are really getting carried away about this crap
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
14. Now we just have to prove a link between the guy who framed Weiner
and Breitbart.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #14
35. That's been done too..
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 02:47 PM
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18. Good
Most excellent news.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:07 PM
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20. K& R
worth leaving this image here

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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #20
81. So we're supposed to believe
that Breitbart doesn't know Dan Wolfe? This is a good cover post by Breitbart.

He has succeeded in changing the conversation, so that almost nobody is talking about the excellent work that Weiner does. I hope that changes soon.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:59 PM
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25. Freaking corporate media (R) are such scum-sucking maggots on America's soul
They know Brietbart (R) is a discredited Republicon liar-propagandist. And still they lapped his shit up as if they were starved for it.

Disgustipating.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. they convinced America to invade Iraq the same way
they have gone on about this NON STORY FOR DAYS !!!!! Why do they obsess on C$^# so much ?

Disgusting! We need a thread with the Contacts the cable shills . We must .. We ALL must tell them
what we think of their Betrayal ... How dare they Choose that this is more important to my family
than news from fukushima daichi....How dare they ?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #29
41. Amen...how quickly we forget that orchestrated propaganda campaign for a made up war !
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-11 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #41
91. I'll never forget
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:57 PM
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30. Good, good news!
Thanks for posting. Weiner's one tough and wiry rep. He HAS TO BE, given the district he reps for. I'd do anything to have him rep our district rather than the corporate leech we now have. :puke:
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:29 PM
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32. No one seems to care as to whether he sent it...
they want to know if the picture is of him and why a congressman would take a picture of himself in his underwear. The fact that he does not categorically deny that it is a picture of his junk gives his detractors, and the frenzied media, reason to keep the story alive. Even Rachel Maddow said it would be "creepy" to take such a picture of himself. (I, on the other hand, think it's hot!)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. They're just moving the goalposts and they'll keep doing that.
If he says it's not him, they'll ask him to prove it or some such silliness. They'll ask how many girls he sends messages to or if he's ever done this before.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 07:08 AM
Response to Reply #32
63. Have you noticed that Rachel can be a bit prudish...
She even refuses to say certain words on air that are really not at all obscene and wouldn't even be bleeped if she said them. And, of course, they are always parts of quotes anyway. I just can't think of an example right now, but her NOT saying the word usually draws more attention to it than if she had just said it. Her producers will even show a graphic or text with the word written out on the screen while she self censors on it.

Kinda funny! I bet she blushes easily too. :blush:
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:47 PM
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36. So why didn't he just say an investigation is already underway, it's not my picture?
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #36
47. So why didn't he just say...it's not my picture?
He did say it's not his picture.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. It doesn't matter if its him
he may have been sending pics to his wife...

What matters is whther he sent it to someone else as well - and honesttly, THAT shouldn't even matter to anyone except him and his wife -unless the person that received the pic was underage or in Weiner's employ. Neither of these conditions apply here. It's all a smear.

Smear, fear, keep it unclear
Distract, react, stay on the attack..
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #47
60. When did he say that?
Seriously, did he say that?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #47
66. I am not aware of his having said that
Do you have a source?
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #47
89. he didn't say it wasn't his but I think he finally said he didn't send it. nt
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 09:00 PM
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38. For some reason this reminds me of Enemy of the State
when Hackman says something like this guy is either really really smart or really really dumb. Time will tell but my gut says really smart at this point.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 10:22 PM
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45. now comes the law suit against that repuke asshole. nt
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RVN VET Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 10:53 PM
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48. Weiner probably -- most likely -- did NOT send the picture
It makes no sense that he would do so: he's intelligent, he's married, and he's not Republican.

That said, someone apparently got a hold of a picture that Weiner has not denied is of his junk. In fact, Weiner has specifically held back from denying it. And I think it was John Stewart who pointed out that, if you see a picture of somebody's junk and can't say for sure that it is not your junk, it's probably a picture of your junk.

Someone he knows, someone close enough to him to know about that picture, sent it to the woman, maybe to mess Weiner up, maybe as a puerile joke. I don't think Weiner sent the picture.

More to the goddarned point: so what? The woman -- not girl -- is an adult. End of freaking story. Oh, wait, pedophile Andy Breitbart has accused Weiner of sniffing the panties of little girls. I hope Anthony sues him for that particular slander/lie/swill. I'd like to see him take a cane to that slimey mendacious pus-puddle, in public.

And, BTW, if Weiner ever wants to run for the Presidency, I'll support him 100%.

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 03:44 AM
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54. He said to Rachel
something to the effect of "Is it okay if I say, 'I wish!'". I took that to mean that he stated his junk ain't that big.
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nikto Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 02:34 AM
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51. This whole story...
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 02:36 AM by nikto
...is the biggest, most important & most incrediblest story of all time.

Asbolutely.
:eyes:


All we get from it is just a view of another
layer of maggots in the soul of Breitbart.
:puke:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 03:46 AM
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55. Yup,
we've had two disasters in as many years that all but guarantee that much of life on earth is going to be destroyed. But that story is a non-starter. But Rep. Weiner's weiner, many, many a "news" cycle. :puke:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 04:20 AM
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57. This is how they buried the Thomas material. It's that simple. n/t
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 11:13 AM
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71. + 1,000
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 05:29 AM
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58. "They" don't care if it is a lie.
"They" have reported it ("if it is in the news then it is true").
Most Americans (at least Tennesseans) know nothing about THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE, the rule that Reagan had removed. Before Reagan, "NEWS" programs were responsible for being honest.

Now, the Courts have upheld the right of "News" programs to LIE.

Most people do not know this, so when they see it on tee vee, they think it HAS to be true.

This is what we are dealing with. I have questioned hundreds of regular people about the veracity of tee vee news. Almost every one of them believe that if something is reported as (even implied) the truth, then legally, it has to be true.

Propaganda is insidious in many ways. People will tell you that they understand what propaganda is, yet they do not believe that their "News" program is legally allowed to be biased. UNREAL but very true. Honest, I said it didn't I ?...
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cppuddy Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:47 AM
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68. why is MSM not saying all this stuff
I have been following this subject on MSM, but have not heard any of this. They are just makng out that it is true, and the congressman is lying. It is amazing to me that the MSM ignores all the research that people here and othersites did to figure this setup occured. Has anyone sent all this stuff to the MSM to look into, or the Congressman Weiner so he put out the truth in what happened.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 08:49 AM
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69. Can you send a twitter/tweet/whatever to a specific individual in this fashion?
I now "get" that you can post a photo to your twitter account by sending an attachment to a "secret" email... but can you address that to a specific individual in this fashion?

Or was that part of the story fraudulent?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 11:21 AM
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72. Yes, you can. You address it to an individual but
everyone who follows you sees it. The address is just part of the message like this:

@FBaggins This is how it would be done with a link to a picture here.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 11:41 AM
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74. Then I don't see how it got so blown our of proportion
except of course for his inexplicable behavior afterwards.

I guess that all that's left to ask is how the perp got access to a picture that the congressman can't say for sure isn't him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:16 PM
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75. Why is that the question?
I would think the first question is, who benefits from this focus on the Congressman? Besides Clarence Thomas, that is.

Is some digital crotch of uncertain identity really more important than corruption on the Supreme Court?
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:28 PM
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77. Both are probably blown out of proportion.
I don't put much stock in either an embarrasing photo from a guy who was the most eligible bachelor in the Congress just a few short months ago... OR the business with Thomas. He may be "corrupt", but this business doesn't demonstrate it. I have no idea WHY he failed to fill the report out properly, but corruption isn't a posibility. It's just silly to pretend that he was trying to hide his wife's employment when everyone knew that that's where she had worked. It came up here more than once years before this was an issue and any lawyer who tried a case before him certainly knew it. So I'd love for the "scandal" to bite him in the butt... but I don't put much stock in it.

The only thing of interest that remains for me is what I posted. The Congressman's handling of the issue baffles me. Doesn't mean he's guilty of anything... just that it doesn't seem to make sense. Then if it IS a photo of him I wonder how someone else got it. Someone who, reportedly, was claiming that he had such photos weeks ago.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:39 PM
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80. Wait, an @ reply only goes to people who follow both you and the @
That is, I'd only get that hypothetical tweet if I followed EFerrari and FBaggins
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:54 PM
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82. No, it would go to everyone who follows my tweets plus
it would go to the person it was addressed to, FBaggins.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:05 PM
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83. Well, if you've gone and set it like that, ok
But if you check the default on the settings, it's to be visible to you, the @ (whom you must be following), and anyone who follows both of you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:23 PM
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84. You don't need to follow someone to address a tweet to them.
And no, followers of FBaggins would not get it. They wouldn't get it unless FBaggins retweets it.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 01:34 PM
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85. From Twitter's own FAQ
http://support.twitter.com/groups/31-twitter-basics/topics/109-tweets-messages/articles/14023-what-are-replies-and-mentions


Things to Note:

When you visit another user's profile page on Twitter, you will not see a mentions tab for them. But you can search for all Tweets mentioning their username in our search box. Search for "@username" to view results.
People will only see others' replies in their home timeline if they are following both the sender and recipient of the update.
People will see any mentions posted by someone they follow (all mentions are treated like regular Tweets).
People with protected accounts can only send replies to people they have approved to follow them. (so we were half-right; I'm protected and forget that most people aren't sometimes)
If someone sends you a reply and you are not following the user, the reply will not appear on your Home timeline. Instead, the reply will appear in your Mentions timeline.
Replies will always have "in reply to" listed next to their timestamp. If a Tweet doesn't have this, it's a mention.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 02:04 PM
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86. Do you use Twitter? I do.
"People will only see others' replies in their home timeline if they are following both the sender and recipient of the update." That's precisely what I said. If I send to @FBaggins, his followers will not see it unless he retweets it. My followers will see it and he will see it.

"People with protected accounts can only send replies to people they have approved to follow them." We didn't discuss protected accounts or private messages at all. You do not have to follow someone to send them a tweet. I sent a reply to Pabs and I don't follow him but read his tweet here at DU, for example.

It's really not as complicated as it sounds.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 02:10 PM
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87. Then we're saying the same thing
I'm not sure why you took issue with my claim that people will only see @ replies if they follow both the sender and the @
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 02:25 PM
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88. Okay. My tweet to you is visible to me, you and to my followers.
Your reply to me will be visible to me, you and to your followers.

The whole conversation is only visible to you, me and people who follow us both.

Unless (!) we're using a tag or even a key term (like #Wikileaks or Wikileaks, say) and then anyone searching for that term would get all the tweets containing it.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 03:09 PM
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90. Yes... but the question is whether you have the same options through a yFrog email.
With Facebook for instance, I can upload a photo by email and the subject line becomes my status. So all of my "friends" can see it... but I don't think that I can send an email that will upload a photo and send it to a given individual.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:36 PM
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78. This is good news... However, for all the others framed by this type of tech.
Edited on Fri Jun-03-11 12:37 PM by midnight
hacking on their accounts via computers, phones, etc... I wonder how successful they are at fighting this type of terrorism?
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-11 12:37 PM
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79. How about this
The photo was AW but was secretly taken at the House fitness center locker room without his knowledge.

Is it me? Maybe.

See how that changes the perspective?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:39 PM
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93. Just because something can be hacked doesn't mean that it was hacked
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:43 PM
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94. So much for that. n/t.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:45 PM
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95. Good grief, look at all the recs this thread got
Unfortunately I was one of them -
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:46 PM
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96. Phew. Sweet, sweet vindication (nt)
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