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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:31 PM
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Palin Fans Trying to Edit Wikipedia Paul Revere Page
Edited on Sun Jun-05-11 06:02 PM by kpete
Palin Fans Trying to Edit Wikipedia Paul Revere Page
Right wing alternate history
Charles Johnson
WINGNUTS • Sun Jun 5, 2011 at 11:02 am PDT • Views: 45,813

Man, you’ve gotta almost admire the sheer blind dedication of Sarah Palin’s wingnut acolytes.

Now they’re trying like crazy to edit the Wikipedia page for “Paul Revere” to make it match Palin’s botched version of history. Here’s the Revision history of Paul Revere; check out the edits that are being reversed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&action=history

Also see the discussion page for an entertaining exchange between Wikipedia editors and a would-be revisionist.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38678_Palin_Fans_Trying_to_Edit_Wikipedia_Paul_Revere_Page/comments/#ctop
Comment #5


this WAS working, hmmmmmmm
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere>


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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:35 PM
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1. kpete - when I'm down and troubled
you make me laugh my ass off! :hug:
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:39 PM
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2. the link to the discussion doesn't seem to work,
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:46 PM
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4. here:
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Consensus is clear not to add Palin comments to Paul Revere article --CutOffTies (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

In the article on Paul Revere, someone has added false information in an effort to support Sarah Palin's FALSE claims about Paul Revere.

"Accounts differ regarding the method of alerting the colonists; the generally accepted position is that the warnings were verbal in nature, although one disputed account suggested that Revere rang bells during his ride.<8><9>"

This must be removed as it is a LIE designed to mislead. dj
Dajames (talk) 14:46, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

A lie? If you follow Wikipedia's rules, we must maintain a WP:NEUTRAL position, representing the mainstream position as well as disputed versions. I think the addition represents this fairly -- the mainstream position is that Revere's warnings were verbal, but there are differing accounts that the warnings were done with bells -- with two sources: WDHD television plus a live interview, with a highly influential US politician relating these facts.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Done. Thank you, I removed the content not backed by a reliable source. --CutOffTies (talk) 14:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I kindly remind people that it's not our job here at Wikipedia to decide what's true, but to report what reliable sources say, such as the LA Times, WDHD TV in Boston, numerous others. And they quoted an American politician saying that bells were used. --Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Tomwsulcer - You should be kindly reminded that it’s not your job to debase Sarah Palin’s wiki page with (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sarah_Palin) your version of the occurrence for political reasons. The left leaning bias on Wiki is well known, but these types attacks are over the top. Mk 71.228.77.211 (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

It's not the LA Times that's questionable as a reliable source, it's Palin herself. Even if the Times (& others) quoted her accurately, her off-hand, poorly-informed view doesn't belong here, per WP:UNDUE, and I have reverted. Hertz1888 (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Palin is a former governor of Alaska as well as a presidential candidate of one of the two national parties in the United States. Her account of Paul Revere's famous ride has achieved national attention from most mainstream media -- LA Times, CNN, you name it. There are numerous reliable sources quoted her exact words on this subject. This article has HUGE attention (55K readers in one day) as a result. Clearly, there should be some mention given its obvious importance. And I remind people, kindly, that it's not up to us contributors to determine who is and isn't a "poorly informed view" and to try to determine truth. Rather, Wikipedia is about verifiability.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Here's Palin's remark via the LA Times & CNN: Sarah Palin on Paul Revere's ride
It doesn't tell the reader looking for information on Paul Revere anything useful. Vice Presidential candidate, please. Hertz1888 (talk) 15:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Hertz's edit, also please read wp:RECENT for yet another reason why this has no place here. --CutOffTies (talk) 16:16, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Paul Revere may have rang some bells on his ride, but does any mainstream historian believe that Paul Revere had any intent to warn or scare the British in any way? I have never heard this, except from Palin. All accounts I have read say that Revere and Dawes were trying their best to avoid being noticed by the British, who would likely capture them immediately if found. --Westwind273 (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

The Lexington church apparently was one which rang its bell. <[4>]. Is all this of any great import at all? Collect (talk) 21:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:40 PM
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3. that is just way to funny
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 05:48 PM
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5. If you can't remember history, just rewrite it to what you think it was
I am starting to think these people live in an alternate dimension and we are trying to merge the two.

Que the twilight zone theme.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:53 PM
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7. I don't think it is about memory
It is ignorance - ReTHUGS invent any historical fact that does not suit their agenda. They do not allow facts to get in the way.

It is madness when the most stupid people are allowed to spew their crap.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:09 PM
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9. She answered it like a 12 yr old who thought she could get away with her ignorance if she said it in
a cutsey manner. I thought she would come out and say she was just kidding around as an excuse. It's hilarious that her excuse is that she's so much more learned than the average joe that her version was too deep for most to understand.

:rofl:
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:47 PM
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6. The Midnight ride of Paul Revere
Elizabeth Ash:


Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
To warn the Brits, or what? Oh, dear
I cannot think, it’s not quite clear…
I have it now! And I will tell:
He rode, he shot, he rang the bell,
He told the Brits to go to hell
Defiant, proud and shooting swell.

Through the country dark he road
Through fair New Hampshire, so we’re told,
Through field and street, he was right bold
His rifle clutched, a vise-like hold.

“We armed, we’re armed!” he shouted wide,
He rang that bell as he did ride,
He shot the dark from side to side,
Uh, wait, I think that, uh, I lied.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:18 PM
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11. AWESOME!
Let's see that in an OP!
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:46 PM
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12. Done
Yeah I thought it was pretty funny. Oh God, what is happening to our country.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:52 PM
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13. You forgot the link:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 06:55 PM
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8. but she declared on video that she was correct:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/05/sarah-palin-paul-revere-ride-history_n_871479.html

that the GOP...if reality doesn't suit them they invent their own.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-11 07:17 PM
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10. They're following the George W. Bush tradition of fixing the facts.
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Fud Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 01:29 AM
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14. Why can't on reporter ask this one question?
Sarah if you are so patriotic why were you and your dipshit husband involved in the session movement in Alaska? Answer that and see her tongue fall off stumbling and bumbling. I'm not a reporter and have no access to the that ditchpig but maybe someone else does.

That one question would shut her up for good.

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 01:36 AM
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15. Here's a good article from the AP regarding Palin's Revere gaffe
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