I've been following politics for going on forty years and sometimes you watch this stuff unfold and have a feeling when someone might not be telling the truth.

I sincerely hope that Rep. Weiner is telling the truth about his pictures. I really, really hope so because this man has been one of those we so badly need to take the fight to the feet of our foes. However, the more this goes on, I believe we are about to find out that he has been untruthful in this matter and his career is going to be seriously harmed.

Sure, people here believe "who cares" and "so what" and "it's between adults" and blah, blah, blah. But it's more important than that.

We have put our trust in a person who is possibly lying to us and in lying to us, he is only strengthening the power of the bastard Breitbart. If Weiner is lying, then at the end of the day, Breitbart will emerge vidicated and be able to continue his "journalism". Not only that, we will have lost one willing to pick up the battle.

And if I am wrong, and I actually hope I am wrong, I will gladly eat these words and gladly plant the remains of the crow right upon my head.

But I don't think I am.

And for those that still believe this is a bullshit and meaningless tale, well, sorry, but our side too often tries to claim the upper-morality hand, but if we have a congress person behaving this way and ignore it, then really, how much better than them are we?

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Weiner can certainly remain a Congressman after WeinerWienerGate. But he will never achieve any higher office; no Mayoralty of NYC or runs for President. My guess is he will retreat quietly into the privates sector (oops that's *private* sector).

Now days it seems like things that would have ended careers years ago no longer do so today. And then, this also seems to be true of some people all together (to this day I can't imagine how David Vitter STILL remains in office).

"He may be a penis-tweeting sleazebag but he's *our* penis-tweeting sleazebag!".

We got a picture of "somebody's" pecker last week and look how this blew up. Breitbart just started posting more pics (Mr. Weiner with his cats) and it's going to get really bad considering his lack of lack ethics and consideration for Mr. Weiner's privacy.

We have seen how this has played out with Breitbart before. He starts slowing letting things trickle out and he's saving the big bomb for later. He's a prick. He needs to be stopped!

This has NOTHING to do with Anthony Weiner as an important Progressive and how much we need him and more of him on our side right now.

IMO, it's more a matter of having reasonable doubt that he's lying.

Even liars tell the truth every now and then.

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Weiner's answers, his behavior, now other politicians, not only these, but other things show the narrative is larger than Breitbart.

I don't give a flying flatulent frog how many pictures he's taken of his jockeys!

Hell -- I'll buy him a NEW camera with a zoom feature if he continues to fight for US. I'll offer to TAKE the damned pictures, too!

Personally, I think this is a smear campaign against one of the REAL good guys -- not the *good guy while the press is here and the mike is open*.

And I'm really stunned that an underwear photo can get so many knickers wadded here on this board. It's embarrassing.

IMO -- YMMV.

looked like the guy had a 4-cell maglight in his drawers. According to Jon Stewart, Weiner is not particularly well endowed. It's not surprising that he doesn't want to deny it's him.

It's wondering why anybody who is truly innocent of something would be so evasive.

Tell you what...if someone accused me of doing something I KNOW I did not do, I'd have steam coming out of my ears as I angrily denied everything.

Not playing word games with reporters.


That is what's so disturbing to many of us.

I don't know much about the man or care, but a sexually deviant politician isn't really that hard to imagine.

However, (and I would say this for a Republican politician too), I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt until the picture is actually proven to be him.

Next.

silenced in this war against the right and their attempts to destroy way of life for the underserved.

...and Weiner was on the wrong side of every other argument too, right?

appreciate it...

...why would we be all hung up over a Senator emailing a pic of his schlong hidden by jockey shorts when we don't get upset over Senators voting to end Medicare, wage immoral wars, spy on US citizens, etc.???

That is good enough for me.

:shrug:

He would have if he could.

Unless it was his wife's.

I'm not up on whatever was released earlier today... so that may be moot at this point.

Because it was FUCKING STUPID that he had to.

He never played evasive little games with people.

He always claimed to have been born in Hawaii. He didn't hem and haw and claim he didn't know. His claim was, is, and always will be, that he is a US citizen.

Weiner, OTOH, has been evasive almost since day one.

He destroyed Trump over it.

The MSM media approaches his BS stories as if it could be true as well as many DUers and because of this, the reputation of the people and organizations he attacks are permanently tarnished. Even though his lies have been uncovered time and time again, he keeps doing this crap because it is still working.

And it sucks.

this turd gets his and the media send him to an island far into the night and we never hear from him again.

The guy is a nut and I hope I'm wrong and this story will end up being the last nail in this guy's coffin.

But from someone who has watched politics for a long time, there are parts to this story that seem to be suggesting otherwise.

The new picture with the "me" sign is nothing as long as there isn't a story to go with it.

and obviously things would be better if Rep. Weiner would fight back the way we all assumed he would, but at this point I just think we're better off by assuming every thing that Breitbart says is one fat lie. The burden of proof is on Breitbart and so far the crotch shot tweet was shot down, the characters involved are looking extremely suspicious, and the new photo Breitbart has is just Weiner holding up a sign that says "me" on it. Nothing dirty, but Breitbart wants to continue this narrative that Weiner is flirting with young women on twitter so any picture will do.

It's the old "Well, he's a great American leader.........BUT......" bullshit, all over again.

I'm disgusted by your OP and the entire tenor of this thread.

alleged of doing. John Ensign did much worse and has been allowed to remain in office for the rest of his term. I know that you don't accept what those two scumbags did but the media apparently found it easy enough to forgive them. Why not Weiner?

If there's something they don't want us to know, they are open to blackmail.

Some of us just wait to see how things turn out. Others form negative judgments as soon as possible. Have a real nice day, won't you?

Unrec.

:thumbsdown:

I'm sorry, but if don't think our leaders do not have a responsibility to us or the truth.....well......

it's the lying about the scandal.

Hell, if he had came clean from the start he probably would have survived this. But I bet over the next few days or weeks he will end up resigning.

I made a killing off of people that said President Clinton would be thrown out of office.

bad it is going to get, right?

(I am really stunned at how many times we have seen this story in American politics before and how so few here recognize the same story being played out. The Weiner drips are soon going to turn into a gusher.)

or what you perceive as moral.

was a republican you would.

FWIW

The moment they give up on running on "family values" and using religion as justification for regressive policies is the day I don't give a rat's ass who they fuck, or play footsie under the stall with, or cheat on.

I don't care about their sexual practices, I care that they use a bunch of nonsense to justify bad policy positions and to rile up the church lady vote.

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supposedly surfaced.

:wow:

a proven liar and media terrorist? :wow:

I hope it's really "nothing" - but I think it's looking bad at the moment. I'm hoping he wouldn't have been that careless, at least. But folks, we can't be like the other side and defend the indefensible. Breitbart IS a shit stain, and he's probably royally pissed off at all the syphilis talk. I hate it that this is happening. I hate it that sometimes people can be so stupid (Bill Clinton, John Edwards, et al). If it's true, what a fucking waste.

People here upset with this post appear to be primarily focused on one thing: the lying turd Breitbart. I don't blame them. I despise this man as well.

But there is another aspect of this story other than just Breitbart.

But here is something major that is very troubling: Let's examine the character of each men here - and then ask, which person is remaining true to his regularly known character and reputation?

On one hand, you have a lying, sleazebag turd, who spreads rumors, lies, innuendos at will - Breitbart.

Then, on the other hand you have a firebrand politician who has shown at no time a fear of speaking his mind. A man who has consistently shown he is not afraid to tell it how it is and not afraid to take on the powerful - Weiner.

Now, here's the odd thing - in this troubling time, which of these two have been consistent in their characters and reputations?

Would people not expected Weiner to have exploded and demanded criminal investigations if all of this had been fabricated?

I guess we are about to find out. Just saw a report Weiner is going to speak about this at 4pm Eastern Time.

Seriously?

He's accused of typing.

It's not the scandal, it's the covering up of the scandal.

"We have you on video beating your wife"
"My wife and I both can prove that you're lying."
"Okay then, here's a video of you yelling at your dog."
"Who cares if I yell at my dog?"
"Aha! Coverup!"

The belief that there's no privacy boundary for personal conduct is destroying this country.

Please explain to me what relevance Weiner's chatroom conversations have to me. If you can't do that, then I. Don't. Fucking. Care. In fact, I shouldn't care because it's none of my business who he talks to.

Was the other party underage? Was there anything otherwise illegal about it? Was he having sex with hookers? Picking up men in public restrooms? Going awol from his job to meet his girlfriend? Sleeping with lobbyists?

Everything is okay if you're a republican. The corollary is that nothing is okay if you're a democrat.

he lied. He lied to his family, he lied to his constituents, he lied to Democrats and he lied to all those who give a shit.

I frankly don't care if he sends a picture of his cock to a consenting adult. However, he lied about it and in lying about it he has now just help create a fucking giant out of Breitbart.

My goodness, how that bastard must be gloating. You know why? Because it takes a thinking person to dissect the ACORN scandal and the Shirley Sherrod bullshit he pulled. And now he has the simplest of narratives to prop him up.

And no where did I excuse the terrible behavior of others to make some sort of argument. That is not the issue, anyway. Weiner's lying is.

Oh brother ...

And the folks who do the moralizing are the ones on the RIGHT side of the aisle in Congress.

Doh! :crazy:

It was pretty obvious there was more to this story.

It seems as soon as we get a person so willing to fight for us this happens.

"but our side too often tries to claim the upper-morality hand..."

Actually, I don't think our side doesn't make sex or family values a platform advertisement. From where I sit, it's not a questions about gaining an upper hand, it's more a question about simply adhering to the values one speaks of and runs on.