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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:40 PM
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Weiner......With Certitude He Just Lost all Credibility


......I said last week he was not being straight and did not buy into all the HACK talk...He should have just been straight up last week and this conversation would have been done with.

We are all better than conspiracy theories and all need to acknowledge no matter what party we support we all make errors,what matters is how they are handled,Weiner FAILED.

Now we know why Breibart was there.

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:42 PM
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1. pictures of weeners are to distracting
not good!
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:44 PM
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7. Okay, this is totally inappropriate and I will be flamed (rightly so)
but I just have to say, seeing as that photo really WAS him, all I have to say is...dang!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:46 PM
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10. lol, wonder what the circumcision-shouter thinks now...
:shrug:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:43 PM
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2. Beg to differ. I think he's on the way back to regaining the credibility.
He's just spent 30 minutes sincerely and repeatedly apologizing. He admitted lying. He admitted bad judgment. He means it.

That's a mensch who accepts responsibility for mistakes, esp. in front of the public. I can't remember any politician apologizing to the extent he has, including Jim McGreevey.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:45 PM
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9. I do give him credit for that. n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:47 PM
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34. After playing a game of chicken where he called someone's bluff and lost
Fuck him and fuck Brietbart.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:43 PM
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3. Yes. He made some terrible mistakes, all right. I don't know if he will even be able to
be effective as a politician at this point.

I think that men have always cheated, or flirted, or what-have-you, but the means exists now for them to be caught. We are living in much more of a glass bowl than we used to. The media used to cover up affairs. Now they expose them.

I honestly just feel heartsick.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:44 PM
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4. He didn't lose credibility with many of us. We're moving on, albeit
somewhat shocked and dismayed.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 07:15 PM
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47. Some, apparently, are neither shocked nor dismayed.
To the contrary, it is those who ARE dismayed who are accused of "sanctimonious priggery."

Bake
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:44 PM
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5. Definitely. He deliberately and callously played his loyal liberal base for fools.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 03:55 PM by ClarkUSA
I always thought he was a grandstanding do-nothing wannabee NY mayor media whore so I wasn't fooled. His non-denial, refusal to sic the FBI and police on the "hacker" and his troubling lack of "certitude" that it was his weiner all pointed to a mega bullshit reading on my Truthmeter.

I feel sorry for his wife.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:49 PM
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15. Emotional problems apparently, maybe he can address them now.. nt
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:52 PM
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17. Yeah, I hope so, for his poor bride's sake. It's ironic that Huma is Hillary's personal aide.
Those women have even more in common now.

What a stupid thing to do. Why'd he get married at all?
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:43 PM
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32. And now Nancy Pelosi is on the warpath threatening an ethics review
... this one is being taken personally and his wife is well liked, ut oh Anthony.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:44 PM
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6. I really felt he could have been the one to take over
from Obama, I guess that's gone now.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:45 PM
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8. Yeah it is. :( n/t
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:50 PM
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16. The BIG PLUS is that we know now not later when he's presidential.. nt
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:11 PM
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23. Really sad to allow your manhood to get the better of you
I now have an untold amount of respect for Obama, because being at the position he is at women are definitely throwing
themselves at him, and to withstand the temptation of fine women walking around all over the place shows the mark of
the man imo.


Apology for bringing the President into this nonsense.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:13 PM
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27. +1000
Absolutely.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:12 PM
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25. Yep, unlike Edwards who "confined" the field too late in the game when his secret came out!
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 04:12 PM by cascadiance
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:15 PM
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28. The difference between Edward and Weiner is that
Edward got a woman pregnant while still married to a cancer stricken wife.

It makes a huge difference, so I would not even make compare the two events.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:30 PM
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31. Certainly not trying to equivalence what Weiner did in terms of the actual event...
... but from the standpoint of sabotaging an election, it could have been as bad had it come out further in to an election we'd invested with him that we did with John Edwards. Would have liked in hindsight to see someone like Dennis Kucinich had at least a bigger voice in the nomination process to push the progressive messages more.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:47 PM
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11. This whole "scandal" is a sham and a distraction - nobody cares, quite rightly, except
the GOP dirty tricks squads and their cheerleaders.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:47 PM
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12. Wouldn't that be "credibilitude"? (nt)
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:47 PM
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13. Now that piece of horse manure Breitbart will have some credibility.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:01 PM
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20. Drudge had Bubba. National Enquirer had Edwards. Breitbart has Weiner.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 04:03 PM by ClarkUSA
Moral of story: Have some morals and don't cheat on your wife in any way, shape or digital form.

I blame the men, not the messenger. As I said in another OP, turnabout has been fair play for our side against their pervs.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:31 PM
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46. The only thing Breitbart has is syphilis from fucking farm animals.

And several other highly virulent and very contagious inter-species STD's.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:48 PM
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14. There's still more to the story. Funny, how this came up two...
days after Clarence Thomas filed his financial disclosure forms. Breitbart's involvement makes it fishy.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:56 PM
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18. Enough with the baseless conspiracy theories. Haven't we seen enough of them here lately?
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:03 PM
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21. The timing was just a little too convenient, considering....
Weiner's calls for Thomas to recuse himself from cases where he has a clear conflict of interest.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:10 PM
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22. Not interested in yet another ludicrous conspiracy theory. Peddle that nonsense to someone else.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-11 04:11 PM by ClarkUSA
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:12 PM
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26. Then put me on "ignore." n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:49 PM
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37. If it wasn't now, it would have been some other time.....
...when he was calling for this that or the other thing.....

It doesn't really matter. Weiner fucked America today.
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 03:59 PM
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19. I wanted to say this before
But I didn't want to start a flame war: I knew Wiener was guilty as soon as I saw his interview with Wolf Blitzer. I could tell by the sneaky look on his face, and the way he wouldn't give a straight answer to the simple question of whether it was him in those pictures. Wasn't it Colbert who asked, how many pictures of him are floating around online, that Weiner couldn't tell whether that picture was of him?

I had bought into the hacking story at first, but as soon as I saw that interview, I knew Anthony Wiener was guilty.

Any time a guy his age is following college girls on Twitter, you can bet it isn't for debating the theory of relativity.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:18 PM
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30. I really thought it might be that he might have had some personal communication to his wife hijacked
and that he might have been careless on how he communicated it to her. And that would have been a totally honest, yet personal reason for him not to want to have had this picture made public that was his. Unfortunately the other parts of the story don't make his story so honest now.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:11 PM
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24. no he didn't...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 04:16 PM
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29. Now he joins the Scott Ritter club for me...
Having shared a lot of high school class mates with Scott Ritter, even though I left before he came to my old school, it was very disappointing to see that he also had been found guilty of trying to solicit some sexual arrangement with a minor on the net too.

Yes, the problem we are going to face is that those that try to fight for our side are going to have to be "perfect" human beings with no human weaknesses to survive the right wing media/power onslaught that those like Breitbart will go after us with.

Weiner, Ritter, etc. are learning the hard way. They otherwise were doing good things for our country. It's sad.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:45 PM
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33. Not with me, he didn't. (n/t)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:47 PM
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35. Damned If He Did, Damned If He Didn't
He didn't pull a Clinton and deny the pics were his. He got castigated for it. Now that he's come clean he's gonna get clobbered as well. What he did was stupid, but what he didn't do was lie about it. If anything his non-answer answers last week which kept this story alive was far different than the blanket denials that others do. If he had done the total denial today he may have had to resign his seat. Instead it's turning into a good laugh for many but Representative Weiner will not lose his House seat and we'll be onto the next bright shiny object...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:49 PM
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38. he sure as shit did lie about it. repeatedly. he said over and over that he was hacked
He admitted he lied and now you're saying he didn't lie. ridiculous. And had he just come clean right away I doubt that we'd still be discussing this. It's the cover up. It's inevitably the cover up.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:07 PM
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40. We Don't Know How The Pictures Became Public...
...that matter is still uncertain. How did those pics end up in Breitbart's slimy hands? The "cover-up" sure wasn't much of one as his non-denial fueled the interest and coverage not stonewall it.

Again, I can't say enough how stupid this was. He got caught and was forced to admit that the pictures were his but we still don't know how those pictures were released. He's guilty of parsing...and I'm sure he was hoping this thing would go away but not of lying when asked if those pics were his. Had he done a full blown denial I think he would have had to resign today...he may have saved his bacon instead.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:48 PM
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36. He lost it with regard to sex. But my problem is with his judgment
I defended him because I never imagined he'd be dumb enough to be sexting strangers in the position he's in.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 05:53 PM
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39. Quoting a comment from a FB post:
"This crap is getting real old. Message to men on both sides of the political aisle ...grow up and recognize that despite how special you think your penis is and despite how much your ego needs stroking you need to grow damn up."
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:22 PM
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41. He never said the pics weren't his. He might not have been straight up, but would you be if you were

in that situation of having Andy Breitbart airing the skeletons in your closet for all the world to see.

Andrew Breitbart is a syphilitic bag of shit. And I've read unsubstantiated reports and seen circumstantial evidence that indicates he's a corpsefucker too.
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bighart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:23 PM
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42. Lying tends to make that happen.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:25 PM
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43. On what subject?
Will I believe him if he chooses to tell me anything about his sex life, his personal relationships, etc.? Probably not. But then I don't know as how I ever would have believed that to start with, so no net "loss."

Will I believe him if he tells me that a member of the Supreme Court is breaking the law. Probably still will believe that.

wearily,
Bright
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:26 PM
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44. don't agree - he will survive this
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-11 06:27 PM
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45. I don't care if he lied about the photos.
When he starts lying about things relevant to his job, then I'll care.
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