From LBN - "Jilted ex-boyfriend puts up abortion billboard" (Edited)

ETA: Everyone - I'm sorry, I just remembered that the article says she miscarried. That's an important piece and I'm sorry I left it out. I put up 3 OPs and didn't focus enough.

posted in LBN by savalez



Picture of the billboard thanks to Judi Lynn in the LBN thread.

http://newmexicoindependent.com.nyud.net:8090/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1-580x315.jpg

Is she still around? Does she condone it?

Just...ick.

Until then, he needs to STFU and go away.

This is pure harassment. It's over, Greg. It's time to move on.

There's a doormat out there for you somewhere.

I would hope his dating days are over in his hometown; though I doubt it.

all? As we're so fond of pointing out here when it comes to men who aren't supporting their children, fathers are equally responsible for the creation of the pregnancy. Should they not, then, get a voice in whether or not it's terminated?

There is no one answer to your question. It all depends. My personal opinion is that in healthy relationships, it would be best for the woman to consider the partner's wishes. However, the ultimate decision is hers. There is just absolutely no way that it isn't. She is the one carrying the child and it is her body and health that will be affected.

They guy on the billboard is an asshole. Plain and simple.

trying to nail young girls with lies and deception? They all just high five each other.

How many abortions are for girls who believed men who lied about always being there?

Like the scamming scum bag on the discontinued "Need a moment?" Twixt TV ad campaign. So the sluts must suffer the consequences, and the red blooded American boys get the silent approval.

Even if you believe abortion is murder, this unjust situation remains.

I only spoke of considering the partner's wishes in healthy relationships - I was thinking of married couples or long-term partners. I didn't go into all the scenarios - but your post is very true - many, many elective abortions are the result of the scenario you describe.

It is the woman who carries the burden. She has to make the decision and she has to live with the consequences. If she aborts - it is her that feels the emotional pain. If she carries to term, it is she that suffers with the health consequences, the decision to keep or give up for adoption, the responsibility of raising a child, etc.

And you're completely right IMO - young men especially want a "score" and a high five. It is absolutely disgusting how some of them treat young women. I've seen it and I've never in my life seen women act the same way. Any promiscuous young women that I've known have been looking for something - needing something - acceptance, love, compassion, etc. I've never known any of them to look for a "score".

there should absolutely be "man to man" messages about respect, compassion and self control when it comes to sex.

I'm so glad that Twixt changed their commercials.

In this context, the only decent thing I've seen on TV was one condom commercial.

The bar is full of grunting pig-men. However, one guy returns from the men's-room with a condom and suddenly he turns from a pig into a cute boy.

It's funny and sweet and of course advantageous to the agenda of selling rubbers.

Maybe some sexy singer boy will write a fantastic game-changing song.

The person who is pregnant gets the final call. Biology isn't fair that way.

forces his female partner to do something she does not want to do?

What kind of father will said man make?

The very fact of a man thinking he has the right to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, or alternately, to force her to abort, tells me the man is not man material much less father material.

The woman can consult him, and take his feelings under advisement, but in the end she has complete and total control over what happens.

The fetus doesn't grow in his body now, does it?

No. Not his body, not his choice.

And, as we are so fond of pointing out here when it comes to deadbeat dads or when women are held solely responsible by conservatives for their pregnancies, it takes two to tango and the father is equally responsible for the creation of the pregnancy. So, while it may be the woman's ultimate choice and decision, should not the father's feelings and wishes also be taken into account?

However, we live in an imperfect world and as the father does not carry the child, he ultimately has no authority in the matter.

It's not his body.

Usually the answer is no.

Usually men's "advocates" then pivot and say "no" to forcing an abortion and then say that since they have no say in the woman's decision, if the woman wants to have a baby that the father doesn't want --he shouldn't have to pay.

Is this you? :hi:

that, since he doesn't get to ultimately decide if she has an abortion or not, he shouldn't have to pay child support if she decides to bear and keep the baby. Having been in an unplanned pregnancy situation myself, albeit twenty years ago, I well know what women go through in that regard.

I was merely stating that the father should have at least some right to make his opinion known, as he is not a mere bystander in the situation. If they agree, fine, if they don't, it's still ultimately up to her whichever way, and the law backs that up.

so he can badger the woman to make the choice HE wants??

if they were to agree on the choice made, then there's no point in having discussed it with him.

if they were to disagree on the choice made, then what's the point? he can't force her to do something she doesn't want.

so, i see no point in discussing it with him.

if the woman WANTS to consult him, i got no problem with that. but if she doesn't want to discuss it with him, i got no problem with that either.

Two votes, if they disagree, no one's ever going to win that argument, it'll always be a 50-50 vote. So if they disagree, what should be done? Force the woman to give birth who doesn't want to? Force a woman to have an abortion who doesn't want one?

I think the woman's vote is just a little bit weighted by the fact that she's the one carrying it.

The mother has the ultimate voice, of course, and the law backs that up (at least at this time, who knows with the teabaggers in charge in some areas). I was merely stating that the father should have some right to at least make his opinion known. If they agree, fine. If they don't, it's still up to her either way.

She may allow me partial decision making capacity in her choice to engage in a medical procedure, but it's certainly not incumbent upon her to do so.

great gameplan...

LOL

The boyfriend was pushing for her to abort the unplanned pregnancy (b/c he didn't want to man up) while the woman (my friend) wanted to have the baby.

Of course, there were no billboards and all.

and its problems.

My ex husband wanted me to have an abortion. That was the first thing he said when I told him I was pregnant.
I went into a two hour crying fit and said "no way".

He said that I "trapped" him into marriage and a child. Now, how I can trap him with a child, when I did not get pregnant until several months after we were married, I do not know.

He said we couldn't afford a child. he had a steady job and good insurance and I told him he was wrong.

Some guys are psychopaths.

Control freaks work both ways.
I think he was hoping that the baby and I would both die in childbirth, since I had to have a C section, absolutely no doubt about it.

:banghead:

Women , Do not have sexual relations with right-winged-whacked out kooks.
Don't!

and some are better at reading the signs than others.

and warn every woman in New Mexico about procreating with this inbred cretin.

amendment protecting even offensive speech, that she should post a billboard calling him out for abuse.

I wonder...

There's some discussion in LBN thread.

this is precisely why. If you choose to share your private information with whackjobs, there is always the risk they will do this.

If THEY share your private information with whackjobs and then they do this--you walk away rich.

professionals who are responsible for them.

And is he holding a monkey?

WTF?

Clean break from a loser!

edit dammit because I just remembered in the article it said she had a miscarriage.

I just thought about it; can you imagine if he'd had a child to use as a weapon against her?

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http://s1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd516/whtrbt2011/?albumview=slideshow

That is a disturbed individual. The NANI on the billboard is the girl's name. She clearly would have a case for invasion of privacy and since she says she had a miscarriage he's defaming her as well. Asshole.

And based on those twits, she should get a restraining order.

many have posted.

Thank you for that additional information.

Did you post it to the LBN thread as well? Please do if you haven't.

Thank you...again.

ETA: reading his twitter: she had better get a restraining order...and a gun. That guy is one sick fuck.

I found that twitter link in the comments on the article in the OP.

It appears she's been granted an order of protection.
http://www.alamogordonews.com/ci_18196356?IADID=Search-www.alamogordonews.com-www.alamogordonews.com

I'm glad you looked further.

I hope an 'order of protection' is enough. Far too many women have died thinking they're safe with a legal document in hand. :(

at least he knows that "it probably isn't a good thing that all my fantasies end in unspeakable violence"

super messed up.

What an asshole.

Not wearing my glasses.

Fuckin' jag-off.

Shouldn't have been fornicating and creating babies out of wedlock, Mister Pro-Lifer. You're going to burn in eternal hell-fire for that alone.

Anyone who would do something like that has no empathy for others, anywhere on any level.

She'll be a lucky woman if and when she's ever finally rid of him. This sounds pretty stalkerish.