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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:01 AM
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New super-fast biometric ID system may allow card-less ATMs (JAPAN)

A fingerprint and palm scanner unveiled by Fujitsu Laboratories on June 1 capable of identifying individuals in just two seconds. (Photo courtesy of Fujitsu)

Fujitsu Laboratories has developed a new high-fidelity biometric identification system capable of picking out individuals from among even a million records in just two seconds.

The new technology announced on June 1 scans not just fingerprints but also the pattern of blood vessels in the palm of a person's hand. Furthermore, the quick identification time means consumers may soon be seeing it in places like ATMs, where it could serve as a card-less ID check for withdraws and deposits.

Currently, biometric security systems are usually paired with ID cards. Information on fingerprints or blood vessel patterns is recorded on the card for quick access when scanning the user. According to Fujitsu Laboratories, the ability to check identities from among 1 million records in such a short time without using an ID card is a world first, handily beating out the tens of minutes it takes current systems.

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http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/business/news/20110602p2a00m0na015000c.html
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:03 AM
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1. Sounds good to me!
Imagine not losing your card again...inside the machine.

I'd try it.



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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:08 AM
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3. They already have fingerprint identification at some Japanese ATMs I've seen
but I'm not going to rush out and sign up for it.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:05 AM
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2. lots of people getting their hands hacked off.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:45 AM
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4. Blood vessel mapping should deter that. /nt
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:58 AM
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5. I'm sure there's a hack for that
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:28 AM
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7. Only if you've got the skills to sew a "blood" pump to all the veins and arteries.
Easier to keep doing it the old fashioned way with a knife or gun in the kidneys.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:59 AM
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6. Market surveys in the USA show we don't necessarily want this.
Single moms send their teen aged kids off to the ATM's and then on to the super markets.

Lovers use each others debit cards if one or the other is sick to pick up prescription meds.

Most of us have friends and family we trust enough to use our cards, and if our accounts will only allow for the scanning of our body parts, difficulties will arise.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:32 AM
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8. Not a good idea,
I don't think it is a good idea to be leaving your scanned fingerprints all over the countryside.

Plus, WTF are the health effects of lots of such scanning?
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:46 AM
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11. Biometric systems don't save fingerprints
They map a series of points, use an algorithm to turn those points into a number, then compare that number to a stored number. You can't recreate a fingerprint from the records of a biometric access system.

I haven't seen anything on health risks associated with finger scans, although I have seen some concern with retinal scans.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:10 AM
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9. Cool
I'd love to have one less card to carry around. Using the same technology at stores means no wallet and no carrying money. Stores wouldn't have cash to rob; people wouldn't be carrying around cash for muggers.

I like it.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:31 AM
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10. @ 20 years ago i dated a very conservative christian woman
her buds were all up in arms about a national id imprinted on your person.
mark of the devil, antichrist, last days--you have the idea.

i see stories like this and sorta get a little nervous.

no i like cash
no i do not want a record of every time i stop for a burger and a beer
or rent a movie, or buy a pack of cigs(don't smoke)

I live in wisconsin and i currently view big brother as someone who would not be a friend.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:51 AM
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12. You know what happened when everyone started getting car alarms
and cars got harder to break into, carjackings went up. Yes many still bypassed alarms but those without the skill carjacked people. What once was a crime that focused on not involving a person in the act now focused on getting the person out of your way.

As people stop carrying money/credit cards and criminals are given less from a simple robbery crimes can escalate to kidnappings driving to atms or could end in beating when nothing of value can be taken.

I also don't like the idea of giving my bank or any system my fingerprints or hand scan to identify me which is then subject to sketchy if any laws probably traded with 'partners' or even sold as more scanners pop up for this and that. Not to mention issues of the government then gaining access to that data at some point in the future for whatever reason they might cook up.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 09:03 AM
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13. Great. This would eliminate the skimming problem.
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