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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:03 AM
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What if a Republican congressman had been caught sending a cock photo over Twitter to a college girl
Just stop and think about that question for like 2 minutes. What would your reaction be?

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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:10 AM
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1. I would not be surprised. nt
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:11 AM
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2. I wouldn't give a flying freak
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 02:12 AM by Art_from_Ark
College girl = adult.

But if that same Republican voted to, for example, end Medicare, and/or drastically cut Social Security or social programs for the needy, then I would care.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:18 AM
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3. Married, 'family values' type of guy?
Totally different scenario. There we go from lack of judgement to hypocracy.

Weiner screwed up, and as long as the tabloids don't uncover some minor he was sexting with, he will deal with the trust, honor and integrity issues he has painted himself into the corner with. Hypocracy is not his cross to bear.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:26 AM
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5. +1
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:55 PM
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38. So....
You want to be known as the party that is approving of sexual and emotional affairs?

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:01 PM
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43. 2+2=7?
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:21 AM
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61. It's just silly...
... if you frame it like the Republican party is pro-family which implies that the democrat party is not.

Do you know many folks who are anti-family?
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:52 AM
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55. +1 more... but the lying I think is much worse than a weenie shot
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:18 AM
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4. Consenting adults
we have nothing in the law against this...

whatever... time to grow up.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:00 PM
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27. Except that online strangers just might NOT be consenting adults. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:52 PM
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36. We have zero evidence of this
Grow up, really.

If a minor is involved then you are talking a criminal complaint... Not the case here... And all things equal. We NEED to grow the fuck up when it comes to sex. It ain't titillating nor icky. It is being used to distract.

Now if the republican was a family values type..then we enter the realm of...hypocrisy.
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strawberryfield Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:28 AM
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6. Do Repuks really hang out here?
I am sort of new here, so I might be a little naive about this, but I assumed that Repuks and other cons wouldn't hang out where they would have to face reality.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:03 PM
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30. Now there's a disingenuous question if I ever heard one.
Why yes, there is a well-funded and fully-orchestrated infiltration of Democratic and liberal websites with the intention to disrupt and dismay the opposition.

Thank you for your concern.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:32 AM
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7. My reaction would be the same, it's none of my business....
unless he was preaching "family values," working against marriage equality for gays or trying to destroy Planned Parenthood.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:34 AM
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8. This must be the only time in history
That a man is getting hammered for a sex scandal that doesn't contain sex.....and considering the man's marriage is less than a year old, the 'going on for three years' doesn't give me pause either.

The whole thing amazes me.

Of course, Clarence Thomas, his wife's income, cozying up to the Koch brothers....that's not an issue. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Woo war crimes don't seem to get much play either.

There's something terribly wrong with this picture.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:20 AM
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14. STOP!!!
You're making too much sense. :toast: k/r


:kick:
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:57 AM
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9. College girl = Consenting Adult. If the Repub was a family values type, I'd
take him to task. Hard.

But I'd do the same with a conservative/moderate Democrat. I can't stand the hypocrisy.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:57 AM
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10. K&R for the key question.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 03:36 AM by pa28
I really think Congressman Weiner is a good man and an excellent representative but lies about relatively trivial sex issues make you wonder. If the situation were reversed I think DU would be all over it. Not for the sex but for sad coverup attempt.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:01 AM
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11. THEIR reaction would be "it's a youthful indiscretion".
Up to age 80.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:45 AM
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18. the past is the past. even if the past is yesterday. even if it is a criminal thing
like what vitter did (he's still there) or ensign (who only left the day before the ethics thing came out). I honestly am not sure about this thing with wiener. i think the lying was the worst thing he did and don't know why he did it. he didn't need to do it. it was stupid.

but then there are the people saying he could have been sending pictures to minors... but did he? has he? I'd say he didn't, but I actually believed him when he said he was hacked and he didn't do anything so I would have to say that I still don't trust breitbart's words.

i hate that he was given a platform even though he shouldn't have been seen as credible without some proof beforehand in the first place. I know that isn't how they operate. But given his track record, they should have. But now he's golden I guess. I just wish weiner would not have friggin lied about it. He could have just said no comment. why did he have to go and make it worse by making that whole hacking thing up!! what is wrong with people!!

This is ridiculous because on the scale of things, this is like nothing. I could give a crap what people do in their personal lives unless it is illegal or using their office to do something either. But this will be the worst thing ever and all the clarence thomas stuff will disappear. funny how that happens. uggh.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:03 AM
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12. same as the reaction I'm having now
complete and utter disgust
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:18 AM
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13. How bored are people around here to make a mountain out of this?
Btw, female college students are usually women, not girls.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:29 AM
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15. What is it you are pushing for?
The loss of a strong, effective liberal in the House? WHY?
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:04 AM
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22. I wonder how strong and effective
he can be, now that he's a known liar.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:56 AM
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24.  How's Bill Clinton's popularity nationally? Worldwide?
HE LIED ABOUT SEX. HE LIED ABOUT HIS PRIVATE, PERSONAL BUSINESS.

So have I. So did Bill.

It is sad that so many DUers feel the need to join whatever posse rides into town with a good, strong rope.

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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:35 AM
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16. I would want that person to resign.
Progressives must wake up and stop the knee jerk defenses of Weiner. Weiner fucked up and lied profusely about his actions. Weiner lied to his wife, trusted people like Schumer, his constituents, anyone within speaking distance. Weiner's actions damages his district, party and ultimately country if he stays on. Weiner must resign.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:31 PM
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34. Thank you. It's nice to see someone who looks at actions
and not parties when it comes to this type of behavior.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:18 AM
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48. Amen!
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:27 AM
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17. What if a high school principal did it? nt
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:09 AM
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19. Well their reaction would be that his
Wife wasn't giving him enough and doing her duty so it was justified.

Mine would be 'meh'.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:26 AM
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20. Wouldn't care, it couldn't be any of my business
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:44 AM
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21. I believe the tone would be somewhat different on here
Something along the lines of a lynching.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 08:11 AM
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23. It sure would...
And I'll bet if it were Breitbart (I know...unlikely, but let's pretend) who uncovered it, people would believe him in a heartbeat.

Because they would WANT to.

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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:04 AM
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44. In that case he'd be declared a national treasure.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:58 AM
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25. Depends on whether he was a "family values" asshole.
It's the hypocrisy that gets me, these right wing repuke jerks lecturing everybody about "morals" while wanking off on the side. THAT is the problem.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:02 PM
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28. "Hey, I never said I was a family values guy!"
What a pathetic, shitty, low-rent out that would be.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:34 AM
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52. I don't see that as an out at all.
If a candidate makes their personal moral superiority an issue, one they want you to vote based on, then they need to stick to it.

If Weiner was running around claiming that you should vote for him because he was going to "protect marriage", then this would be an issue because the candidate made it an issue to get votes.

Rarely do I see a dems running as a protector of family values or defender of marriage.

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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 11:58 AM
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26. I would think it was gross and stupid
Same as when a Democratic congressman got caught.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if it were a Republican. It genuinely does surprise me that a Democrat would be that stupid.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:02 PM
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29. Doesn't matter to me
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 12:04 PM by LatteLibertine
A Republican doesn't champion progressive agendas, AW does and currently he has low to no political capital. That matters to me. He may recover over time. Guess we will see.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:08 PM
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31. I only care when a public moral crusader turns out to be a pev like the rest of us privately.
Otherwise, who they fuck, when they fuck them, and where they fuck them (if they even get to the fucking stage) isn't something I care about.
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ksoze Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:10 PM
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32. I would be shocked. That it was a girl.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 02:50 PM
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67. Yet another gay slur on DU, how unusual.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:24 PM
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33. Electron microscope finally finds pink hair?
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 12:32 PM
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35. I think we'd just have trouble seein' the little fella in the pic. . .
uh...just sayin'. . .:)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 01:54 PM
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37. There was a cock photo?
I only saw some cotton boxers. With a bulge...could have been a pair of socks for all I know.

.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:50 AM
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54. No, but it's hard to maintain the outrage for an underwear pic.
Better to imagine it was a cock pic from a high school principal to a 14 yr old girl.

See? Outrage intact!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:00 PM
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39. Repukes are bad and deserve our hate, AW is a good guy...
and deserves our support...
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:06 PM
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40. His constituents would say, "Oh, well" and re-elect the guy
Just as Louisiana did David Vitter. And it wasn't like Vitter's opponent was liberal Democrat. Charlie Melancon was as about as "DINO" as they come!
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:21 PM
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41. I believe some of us have fallen into the hypocritical republican better
than thou mindset.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 02:37 PM
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42. That's because of the hypocrisy - they are anti-sex, we are pro-sex.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:28 AM
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45. This isn't about sex, notice he didn't get in trouble for having sex with his wife
it's about infidelity. Which is a form of lying. Are you sure you want to be pro-infidelity, pro-lying?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:08 AM
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47. If you think any politician that opens his mouth hasn't lied at some point...
Lying should not average into this argument. Don't get me wrong, I abhor lying and liars (and line cutters) but politicians lie all the friggin' time. I would imagine it becomes a way of life for all of them.

That said, his infidelity has nothing to do with how he does his job. No one else in this country has to worry about losing their job because of infidelity (well, maybe someone who works at focus on family or some other religious organization). If I had an affair and it got around work, I wouldn't be asked to resign, hell, people wouldn't likely know about it because no one, other than my partner, would be watching me to fuck up. So, lets talk about double standards, if we're going to have this discussion at all. If you expect a politician to resign for sexting then we should ask all married folk to resign from their positions if they are caught.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:20 PM
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63. That's a pretty high standard there
"no big deal if politicians get caught in a lie, they lie all the time."

And he did lie about this and tried to cover it up. If he'd started with "none of your business" or "yes, now let's move on" then I'd be annoyed at anyone who bothered to keep bringing it up. But he chose to go with a cover up instead which makes it far worse.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 02:25 PM
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64. Yes, I agree about the cover up
There should definitely be accountability for that but the lying and the sexting shouldn't really be brought into this as a resign for his resignation. It's always the cover up the brings a politician down, not the lies, nor the infidelities.

My point I was making in my previous comment was you talked about infidelity like it had some bearing on whether or not this guy should keep his job. His infidelity should have no bearing on anything but his marriage. If you start expecting politicians to resign because of infidelities, then you should expect it of people in the private sector as well.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 02:44 PM
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66. I dismiss lies that are not relevant towards job performance.
When I'm concerned with job performance, I dismiss lies that are not relevant towards that job performance.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:57 AM
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46. We didn't even investigate Scarborough
or the one in Florida with the male pages. I forget his name. And what about the accusations against W? And Clarence Thomas?

These shits ALL think they are entitled to act any way they like. I am surprised they don't legalise the concept of first night with brides. Medieval assholes they are.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:23 AM
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49. I would think
That they might have just found their candidate for 2012 :P
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:29 AM
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50. Has he been running as a "Family Values Conservative??"
Has he been running on "Defending marriage" from "the gays"?

If he's been making his moral superiority into a campaign issue, I'd be calling him a liar and a hypocrite.

If he has NOT been running on those topics, I don't care. Except in this way ... IF, IF there are any "Family Values COnservatives" who are "defenders of marriage" trying to down play his actions ... then THEY (the protectors) become fair game.

See how that works?
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:32 AM
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51. Depends on the repulican. Is he hot?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:48 AM
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53. I would have laughed, probably said, "It figures"...
...and moved on.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:54 AM
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56. I'd want him gone...
not because of any moral stance

we have to hit them when they are vulnerable

the repugs are doing the same thing

they don't give a shit what he did - they are just glad he did it
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 09:54 AM
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57. I wouldn't be surprised in the least, especially if it was one of
those who bleat most loudly about "family values" and teh evil gayz. In which case I would want their head because of HYPOCRISY, not for whatever consulting adults want to do on the intertubes.

And the turd in question would invoke Jebus a lot, talk about how he'd been "saved" and "forgiven" and the whole thing would vanish down the M$M's memory hole w/in 5 days if it ever received any play in the first place.
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:05 AM
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58. I still wouldn't care
I don't care about Wiener sends pics of his wiener nor would I care if Bohner sends pics of his boner. All I care about is what they are doing for me and the millions of Americans like me.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:18 AM
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59. It would still be irrelevant. nt
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:21 AM
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60. It would only bother me if he was a FV hypocrite who fooled people into electing him. n/t
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 10:21 AM by BlueStater
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 10:28 AM
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62. Same, but for some reason, I feel we'd be reading lots of "Attaboy!"s from
conservatives with small weiners.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 02:27 PM
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65. Where has the OP gone? Is this a plop and run? (nt)
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