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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:48 PM
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Weiner needs to resign.
Radar Online has obtained a transcript of facebook conversations Weiner had with a female Las Vegas card dealer. ...It's not pretty (to say the least). Here's her last message to him, posted on June 1.

June 1st 2011

u owe me big time for keeping this all quiet…i am defending u to the death on every blog and
to everyone….telling everyone u would never send dirty messages to women
i know u haven't been on here since u were hacked but i NEED to talk to u…someone
contacted me about u…call me or something.


Read the rest and tell me that, if these exchanges are legit, and there are even more of them, he shouldn't be gone.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/06/weiner-facebook-messages-lisa-weiss-sex-chat-las-vegas-mistress
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:51 PM
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1. It's none of our business what he's texting, as long as the conversation is consensual.
There is not doubt about that from the text the card dealer sent.

The big "mistake" was Weiner's lying about it. That is far from enough to call for his resignation.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:54 PM
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6. So you're cool with her saying this: "u owe me big time for keeping this all quiet"?
Who knows what else is out there. ...But this is enough for me. He's violated the public trust. Sorry.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:51 PM
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2. LOL
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:51 PM
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3. How about we evaluate him on his job performance. Not what kinky shit he does in his off time.
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:55 PM
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8. Do you mean....
Like sitting in his office and lying to every reporter that was brought in there?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:57 PM
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11. If lying to reporters warrants resigning Congress would be empty
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:14 PM
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27. Well Cthulu knows...
We should just not even hope to make things better,or even try cause every person is capable of duffing it up.

You can give up but I have not.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:18 PM
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30. You can give up but I have not.
No, its people eagerly throwing one of the few real progressives under the bus that have given up.
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:25 PM
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32. I hope you enjoy...
The coming weeks of drip, drip, drip.

There is still a TON of stuff out there.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:32 PM
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35. Dont really care
Im not salivating over the opportunity to expound on my moral superiority like some around here.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:03 PM
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17. Giving interviews in his off time doesn't affect his performance.
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:06 PM
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20. Well it does violate...
Ethics rules as it is a covered resource.

Not to mention his office phone.

He is not a trustworthy person and needs to go.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:52 PM
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39. He's a politician. They lie for a livin'. And if you're not satisfied with his performance as a
professional liar, then the appropriate time to give him the boot is at re-election time.

Remember, all he did was some inappropriate things and tell some fibs in his off time.
He didn't do anything all that horrible. There's kids in junior highschool that do such things on a daily basis.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:58 PM
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14. Read the transcript, if you haven't yet.
In between lewd references to sexual activities and organs, he discusses his "job performance". This is fucked up in so many ways.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:10 PM
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23. I have read the facebook chat transcripts.
It appears he enjoys having quasi-adulterous dirty chats in his off time.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:52 PM
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4. Uh. Mah. Gawd.
Just read as much of the transcript as I could take.

:rofl:

What the fuck is wrong with people?

:rofl:
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:53 PM
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5. IF this were France it would be a non-issue
Why are we still so Puritanical after 300 years?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:57 PM
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12. +1000 this country NEEDS to grow the fuck up
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:54 PM
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7. I wonder who contacted her & how they knew. I think that porn star was being harassed by the Far Rig
Far Right freaks who call themselves Born Free or whatever.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:55 PM
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9. What difference does it make?
Isn't he supposed to know he has enemies?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:56 PM
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10. More likely she saw dollar signs.
A porn star. Come on.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:58 PM
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13. for what? text sex? is that illegal? sex is a legal act....as far as i remember
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:02 PM
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16. Nobody's talking about charging him with anything illegal.
...Yet. The last line is more than troublesome. "u owe me big time for keeping this all quiet."
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:06 PM
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19. If he hasn't done anything illegal, why should he resign?
:shrug:

He's stupid, but America is full of stupid people...many of them in high places.

If voters in his district are unhappy with him, they'll have the chance to throw him out soon.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:16 PM
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28. OMG! They talked about keeping their dirty talk quiet!!!!!!!
OMG, get the smelling salts!!!!!

Grow the fuck up.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 03:58 PM
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15. If the voters in his district think he should resign...
they will let him know in 2012...end of discussion.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:06 PM
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18. It does make you wonder what else he's lied about. As for resignation,
I don't really care, but I certainly don't trust him anymore. But hey, I'm not a constituent.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:08 PM
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21. How about a nice big helping of "Grow the Hell Up" instead
I'm tired of feeling like I'm in high school.

Rep. Weiner is an adult. Adults have sex. Adults do stupid things like take pictures & post them on the internet.

It's not like he went on a shooting rampage & killed people. :eyes:

dg
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:09 PM
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22. Clarence Thomas needs to resign!
Notice you haven't started any posts about his "activities."
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:10 PM
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24. Ah...
You got me there. :eyes:
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:12 PM
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25. When you move to his district then you get to have an opinion, till then
Get the fuck over it.

Apparently gone are the days where you can drive off a bridge and still have a long distinguished political career.
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:28 PM
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33. +1
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:32 PM
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36. Don't you mean...
Drive off a bridge in a drunken haze and kill a girl.

Yeah, that is something to aspire to.

I am glad the weiner did not do that, the bar gets closer to the ground.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:54 PM
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40. It's not an aspiration it's an observation
This idiotic call for resignation proves that America is the Culture of the Mediocre. We have a tabloid mentality that puffs up minutia into some sort of grandiose issue that sends the rabble into an apoplectic fit.

Driving off a bridge and causing someone's death certainly sets a bar that would actually justify the discussion of resignation, being a douchebag online doesn't.
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zoechen Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:09 PM
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43. Just out of curiosity...
Do you think that AW gave up the ghost because his conscience bothered him or was he backed into a corner?

If he was backed into a corner what does that say about the next time he steps on it?

Look, I understand the wish to defend AW, I just don't like it on either side and it drives me to stare sternly at my cat.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:32 PM
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44. I'm sure
It was a combination of conscience and pragmatism as I would expect it to be considering his record of public service.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:14 PM
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26. "Hey, it's the Big Weiner. I need you to do me a huge favor."
"Can you please take your name off your phone? My wife went through my phone and may be calling you. So if you can, please take your name off that. Just have it as a number on the voicemail. You got to do this for me. Huge. Quickly. Bye."
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:17 PM
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29. So what proof do we have she actually received anything from Weiner?
Look don't get me wrong, the guy is guilty. But now is the time that people will come crawling out of the woodworks to be a part of the story. I'm sure some are legit but they need to have some type of proof.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:19 PM
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31. I agree - sadly
A change of mind for me on this. The transcript is really bad and there is probably more on the way.

This conversation is not "illegal", but it opens the door to thinking that other acts to be revealed were illegal in some way.

Waiting for his constituents to pass judgement in 2012 just guarantees another year or so of this being topic 1 and hurting other Dems (including Obama) in the process.

Shumer has to give him the bad news so he can go "spend more time with his family." Or else go to see all his online acquaintances in person.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:31 PM
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34. i can't stop people from throwing him out of the boat
but neither do i have to help them do so.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:45 PM
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37. I believe you've posted this earlier.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-11 04:46 PM by shraby
Either that or I'm seeing this again.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:47 PM
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38. Either that...
Because I've not posted this before.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 04:59 PM
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41. What do his personal texts have to do with his job?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 05:02 PM
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42. I don't think he should have to resign
but I will forever see him as a weak and stupid little man from now on.

good grief. what a dissapointment that little shit is.
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