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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:10 PM
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Melted Fuel at Fukushima May Have Leaked Through, Yomiuri Says
The melted fuel at Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear power station may have leaked through the pressure vessels of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactors, the Yomiuri newspaper reported.

The Japanese government will submit a report to the International Atomic Energy Agency that raises the possibility the fuel dropped through the bottom of the pressure vessels, a situation described as a “melt through” and considered more serious than a “meltdown,” according to the report, which cited the document.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-07/melted-fuel-at-fukushima-may-have-leaked-through-yomiuri-says.html
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:19 PM
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1. And When the Corium Hits the Ground Water
we get the big kablooeee that blasts the whole mess, including all the spent fuel into the atmosphere.
:nuke::nuke::nuke:

By some estimates, that would be about 170 Chernobyls all at once. :hide: :tinfoilhat: can I get one of these in lead?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:26 PM
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2. 170? OMG
Is that really what's coming?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 07:28 PM
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5. No. In fact, pretty much everything he just said is completely wrong.
About as wrong as you can get, in fact. The melted fuel has a very limited window during which it's still hot enough to generate steam explosions, before the short lived fission byproduct isotopes (the primary heat source after criticality is over) burn out. Think about it this way--right now they've got water on the thing, meaning it's temperature is already low enough that it could not cause a steam explosion, even if it could get out of it's containment.

Not to mention, getting out of the pressure vessel, assuming that that happened, is a much different thing from escaping or burning through the containment structure, which it would ALSO have to do.

Besides which, the entire idea that one reactor could contain 170 times the material of Chernobyl fails basic mathematics. This sounds like more bullshit out of Russia Today or whatever Pravda is calling itself this week.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:28 PM
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3. How boring ... let's go back to the REAL news, Anthony Weiner
It has not been determined to what extent a molten mass can melt through a structure (although that was tested in the Loss-of-Fluid-Test Reactor described in Test Area North's fact sheet<12>). The Three Mile Island accident provided some real-life experience, with an actual molten core within an actual structure; the molten corium failed to melt through the Reactor Pressure Vessel after over six hours of exposure, due to dilution of the melt by the control rods and other reactor internals, validating the emphasis on defense in depth against core damage incidents. Some believe a molten reactor core could actually penetrate the reactor pressure vessel and containment structure and burn downwards into the earth beneath, to the level of the groundwater. emphasis added
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown


CHINA SYNDROME

***snip***

Will it hit the water table and cause new explosions? Who knows?

"Many experts say a full-blown China syndrome is unlikely in large part because the fuel from the type of reactors at Fukushima is designed in such a way that it probably won't sustain "recriticality" once meltdown occurs. What's more, boron, which slows nuclear reactions, was pumped into the cooling water of the reactor after the initial accident to prevent the core from going "critical" again."

A FULL BLOWN China system is UNLIKELY and it PROBABLY won't sustain "recriticality"! That is not very reassuring given how wrong the socalled experts have been in the past. "Unlikely" and "improbable" are NOT certainty and clarity and definitive. The POSSIBILITY therefore remains for recriticality.emphasis added

***snip***

That pretty much sums it up, then, doesn't it. Three meltdowns and the continued possibility of recriticality and new hydrogen explosions. I PRAY this is truly unlikely, BUT I am not reassured that we can rely on this crisis being over and that new explosions and plumes may not send more trouble our way.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4293

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-11 06:34 PM
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4. "May have"? That means tomorrow they'll tell us that it did.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 08:38 AM
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6. And they have...so your prediction comes true...
I'd call you psychic but that was too easy a TEST OF YOUR POWERS!
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