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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:33 PM
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Seriously, how much of this can we take at once?
Per Sy Hersch, we're thinking of taking on Iran over there, based on dubious claims of their nuclear capability

http://www.truthout.org/seymour-hersh-despite-intelligence-rejecting-iran-nuclear-threat-us-could-be-headed-iraq-redux/13073

If this happens, we'll be fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Iran simultaneously.

Exactly how is this supposed to work, money- and manpower-wise? :wtf:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:35 PM
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1. I thought this was another Anthony Weiner thread. ;-)
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:36 PM
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3. LOL!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:45 PM
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11. Me, too!
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:35 PM
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2. Hey, it worked out great for the Third Reich, don't knock it! n/t K&R
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:36 PM
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4. ALL empires in decline do this
ALL of them... it is almost as close to a law of history as you can get.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:37 PM
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5. "...based on dubious claims of their nuclear capability"
Isn't this how we wound up in Iraq? Are they really going to pull this shit again?

I mean, are they going to tell us, "We really, really don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. Really!"
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:39 PM
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6. That would be looking backwards..
President Obama wishes for us to look forwards.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:31 PM
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19. The retort to that idiocy, which was of course
used by the Bush Crime Family, is almost too simple to bear repeating.

1. Does Iran have intercontinental bombers? No. They are not easy to hide, and surely all those brazillions of $$$ the intelligence community pours down the crapper has certainly resulted in a satellite that could see such planes if the Iranians had them.

2. Does Iran have a real high seas Navy? The answer is once again, no. That pretty much rules out any threat by sea.

3. Does Iran have ICBMs? No. Again, these are ferociously hard to hide and impossible to test without notice, see e.g., Kim Jong Shizizzle. And you don't load a nuke on your first test firing of an ICBM for fairly obvious reasons. Like said ICBM blowing up like a roman candle on the launch pad with predictable results, which sorta negates the premise of having one's own nukes.

So riddle me this, war department brain wizards, just how could an Iranian A-bomb, presuming they can actually build a couple in the next decade (and that is no sure thing) a threat to the US if they have no delivery system?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:40 PM
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7. Sy Hersch told us we were attacking Iran during Bush years at least 3 times.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 12:42 PM by KittyWampus
At this point, he has no credibility on this issue.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:42 PM
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8. They've got runaway inflation in Iran.
I don't think we need to do a thing.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:43 PM
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9. Prolly institute a draft
and scare the heck out of people so they'll support it. The wealthy will get their kids exempted and everyone else's kids will die or be maimed physically and emotionally. That's the way it's worked in the past no reason to think it would be different in the future.

Some will protest and be shouted down for being unpatriotic. Some will say "Hey war is good for our economy."

Hopefully none of this will happen at all.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:06 PM
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15. Dumbing down/gutting public schools obviates need for a draft.
The young are too stupid to realize the dangers of enlisting, plus their other options are lesser paying fast food jobs.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:43 PM
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10. You don't understand.
God is on our side. All will be well. It's Biblical. Shoot, they are probably hiding the Arc of the Covenenant in the Pentagon.

Mythology and psychic visions are the source of our hubris, I think.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:46 PM
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12. Hersch has been crying wolf about Iran for a few years now.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:52 PM
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13. We need to follow the recommended dosage -- instead, we're already overdosing.
Edited on Wed Jun-08-11 12:52 PM by damntexdem
Rather than adding Iran, we should cut back sharply on, or discontinue taking, Iraq and Afghanistan.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 12:59 PM
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14. It's not really supposed to work out for most of us. The top 2%, however....
This is all a nice racket for them. Someone else from a class they despise dies, they get rich. What's not working out about that?
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:08 PM
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16. With Osama dead, the military-industrial complex needs another boogeyman
to keep us afeered at night. Otherwise people start looking closer at the runaway "defense" budget.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:13 PM
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17. Looks like Seymour's Iran obsession has flared up again.
Look for him to make the same claim again in a couple years with even more better super top secret information.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-11 01:20 PM
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18. ROFL.. this the the what, fiftieth time he's claimd this in the last 8 years? he was full of shit
then, he's most likely still full of shit.
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