"The job-killing Health Care Law..." Boehner. This is how they will frame

gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:26 AM
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"The job-killing Health Care Law..." Boehner. This is how they will frame

EVERYthing. "Job killing".

I feel an ulcer coming on.

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subterranean

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:29 AM
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1. They've been doing that for some time, haven't they?

It's nothing new.

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HereSince1628

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:31 AM
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2. Yes, if tagamet isn't already part of DU'ers medicine cabinet

it soon will be.

Such are the fruits of pre-emptive compromise, disillusionment and loss of control of the House.

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chelsea0011

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:33 AM
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3. It looks like jobs have already been killed and this bill had nothing to do with it.

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:20 PM
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12. The facts have nothing to do with what they say. They keep hammering home

that phrase no matter what they do, and their followers believe them. I heard both Boehner and Cantor use that phrase this morning -- Cantor twice!. That's what will be embedded in the consciousness of the Americans who listen to them. We need (as usual) a counter phrase to keep repeating.

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JoePhilly

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:34 AM
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4. Isn't it odd that he's not back in the House listening to the Constitution being read?

Blathering idiot.

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nebenaube

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:35 AM
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5. How can one say that and get away with it?

How can one say that a policy that increases the number of 'viable'(as in one can get paid for services provided to) clients will kill jobs. Doesn't 'demand' create jobs? After all, it's fairly obvious that the supply side cannot create jobs without 'demand'.

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:24 PM
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13. I don't know why we let them get away with it, but it seems we always do. We

need a Democratic version of Frank Luntz and then send out daily "phrase of the day" memos --

I posted upthread that I heard both Boehner and Cantor (Cantor twice) use this phrase already this morning. Almost the first words out of their mouths.

So, the media will get the Dems to respond and the Dems will be all over the place explaining why and how their statement isn't factual, but we don't have the tag line that peoples' minds can grab on to.

It drives me fucking crazy.

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lumberjack_jeff

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:40 AM
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6. The response is "the deficit-exploding private insurance bailout"

We can't afford hundreds of billions to repeal it.

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:28 PM
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14. Good, but we need to get it to address jobs somehow. As an MSNBC guest said

this morning, the Republicans know that the issue isn't Health Care, it's jobs, so that's why they're presenting it this way. And most people don't care about the deficit which seems "out there in the future" as much as they're concerned about jobs NOW.

So re-write it and we'll submit it. :7 :hi:

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global1

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:43 AM
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7. Seems To Me If 30 To 40 Million More People Have Health Insurance That.....

there are going to have to be jobs created to manage that both from a paperwork standpoint and patient care standpoint. How can they say this is job killing. Medical professionals and hospitals are going to get busier. We are going to need to add more personnel to handle the onslaught. Why isn't anyone challenging Boehner and the Repugs for saying this?

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:34 PM
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15. That would be an excellent point for us to keep repeating - hammer it home.

Every single Democrat every single time they speak.

It is so fucking frustrating that we don't fight back when they do this stuff - and this is what they'll be doing the next two years. We NEVER come out with our guns blazing and we never present a cohesive response to any of their untruthful statements. :grr:

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Parche

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Thu Jan-06-11 11:44 AM
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8. job killing republicans

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:51 PM
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16. Perfect. That's the bottom line. Everything they do kills jobs. nt

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LeftinOH

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Thu Jan-06-11 12:19 PM
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9. Well- a *true* universal health care system really would kill off many jobs

-in the insurance industry. The current lame-ass Heath Care Law isn't putting anyone out of work.

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kentuck

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Thu Jan-06-11 12:21 PM
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10. Straight from Frank Luntz...

"Job killing"? Yeah, that will convince people we are right and they are wrong. Yep.

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:53 PM
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17. I just posted that we need a Dem verson of Luntz, because as despicable as he

is, he's very effective. I noticed the other day that everybody is now saying 'climate change' as opposed to global warming. I wonder how many of his other contributions have become embedded in our lexicon.

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MH1

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Thu Jan-06-11 12:49 PM
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11. and each time ask, "whose jobs?"

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gateley

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Thu Jan-06-11 01:55 PM
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18. But they don't ask that! We don't ask that! We've got a lot of smart people

on our side, why aren't they doing this??? :banghead:

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guitar man

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Thu Jan-06-11 02:06 PM
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19. What about the "job creating tax cuts for the rich"?

So this is their angle, the tax cuts for the rich would have worked except for the "job killing Obamacare" law the couldn't overturn. I'm almost of the mind we ought to let them overturn the damn thing and then say "you're move, time for the tax cuts to create jobs." Then the uber rich exec class would have two choices, either create the damn jobs or watch their party and friends in DC slip in to oblivion. But, that's not gonna happen....

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