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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:46 PM
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White House and congressional Republicans reaching a consensus that corporate taxes should be cut.
Momentum Builds for Corporate-Tax Overhaul
By JOHN D. MCKINNON And ELIZABETH WILLIAMSON
Wall Street Journal
January 6, 2011

The White House and congressional Republicans are moving from different directions toward a consensus that the U.S. corporate tax code needs a fundamental overhaul, a goal high on corporate leaders' agenda.

Specific proposals for retooling the complex corporate-tax system aren't on the table and the debate over the issue is sure to be lengthy and difficult. But President Barack Obama and Republican congressional leaders are separately sounding the same broad theme that corporate tax rates should be lower.

"Tax reform could be a significant boost to our competitiveness," Rep. Eric Cantor (R., Va.), the new House majority leader, said this week. "I'm hopeful and expect the president to put some action behind his statements."

The movement on the corporate-tax issue comes as Mr. Obama and his aides are pushing a broad effort to repair relations with U.S. business leaders. Since Democrats lost control of the House in November, Mr. Obama has met with chief executives to solicit their ideas on job growth, negotiated a free-trade pact with South Korea widely supported by business, and begun searching for figures with strong ties to the business world to take top White House jobs.

Read the full article at:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703675904576064052401692010.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:49 PM
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1. President Obama siding with Corporate America? Surely not! Clutch teh pearls!!

:sarcasm:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:49 PM
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2. Christ - does it ever end? Next he'll come out for RAISING taxes on the poor and middle class.
His buddies in the GOP must be delirious with glee at how Obama is giving them everything they want.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:09 PM
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17. huh? You know he already did THAT with his infamous tax surrender
which effectively raised taxes on people making less than $20,000 a year.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:50 PM
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3. Corporations are short on cash
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 01:57 PM by somone
in case people haven't noticed :sarcasm:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:54 PM
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8. Right they have just completed the most profitable year since records have been kept and are sitting
on at least a Trillion $ of CASH. Cry me a river for those poor corporations.

Or were you talking about small businesses like the Koch brothers?
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:57 PM
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11. Your sarcasm smilie is missing
Or are you serious?
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:57 PM
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12. fixed
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:51 PM
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4. In the 50s, corporate taxes funded over 1/4 of the US budget. Today, less than 1/10.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:52 PM
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5. How about us passing a Corporate AMT of 10% of sales?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:52 PM
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6. It won't make any difference...they don't pay anything now...
I suspect they want us to pay them...oh, yeah, we already do.

In 2008, the New York Times discovered that one in four of the US's largest corporations regularly pay no income tax to the IRS, and billions are lost. Exxon's not alone: The Forbes article points out that General Electric avoided paying any income tax last year on profits of $10.3 billion. In addition to offshore tax shelters, GE had another ace in the hole: It submitted a record-breaking 24,000-page tax return. God bless the IRS's auditors; I'd have paid billions not to have to read that thing.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/exxon-mobil-paid-zero-income-tax-offshore%20shelter-wal-mart-general-electric-forbes
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:52 PM
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7. In one just one day,
I am seeing the petals of the Fascist flower unfold from its brown, fecal bud. You can almost smell the nauseating, sewer-like stench of its malevolent bouquet wafting green and thick through the air.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:56 PM
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9. Out of hope
And no chance for change!

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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:02 PM
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16. Sheer poetry to banksters' ears
and bankbooks
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:56 PM
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10. This man seems to have no ideology whatsoever.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 01:58 PM by Marr
He's simply a political strategist, trying to secure as much corporate campaign cash as possible, while retaining just enough support from voters to win the next election. It always seems as if he's trying to jettison liberal voters and replace them with a more docile group of "Independents", too. Pure political gamesmanship, with no regard to actual real-world outcomes for regular people, short term or long term.

The more I watch him, the more I understand the whole "post-partisan" line. That may have been the only honest slogan he had.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:56 PM
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28. Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely right. He's a sailboat,
moving in whichever way the wind is blowing at the moment.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 09:58 AM
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37. Au contraire. It is this: Cut the Democratic attachment to the poor, workers, unions, the elderly--
biting the very hand that sent $ to his camapign---in return for MUCH MORE $$$$ by attaching the Democratic party to Corporate/Wall St. America.

The "ideology" is that of Willie Sutton: Go where the money is.

We Liberal Democrats bought the Monkey's Paw: We wanted to be part of electoral history. A Democratic President who destroys Social Security would fit that bill.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:58 PM
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13. Personally I'd support a cut
IF that cut included reform to close loopholes so they actually DID pay taxes.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:58 PM
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14. *facepalm
Oy vey...at this rate Obama won't need "the left" or his base anymore, the bloody republicans will vote him back into office in 2012!!! :wtf:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:00 PM
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15. who owns the WSJ?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:13 PM
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18. The same people who own Congress?
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 07:40 AM
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33. More specifically, it's murdoch
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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:16 PM
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19. What, 66% of corporations paying no federal taxes wasn't enough for you?
http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/08/13/66-of-american-corporations-pay-zero-federal-income-tax/

Obama is showing his true colors. I will have to write in "The Constitution" for president in 2012 unless there is a good Green or martian candidate.

Peace,
Tex Shelters
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:29 PM
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20. NOW can we speak the truth about Obama, or is that STILL off limits?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 02:38 PM
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21. Good question.
An Obama supporter will be along shortly to answer it for us.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:00 PM
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22. We are fucked.
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:12 PM
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23. Finally, Obama gets to work with people he sees eye-to-eye with.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 05:13 PM by Smashcut
Expect no help from this duplicitous shill. To go a few steps further, at this point the only "change" we can hope for is for the whole rigged system to come crashing down under the weight of its masters' metastasizing greed.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:13 PM
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24. sick... this government is now fascist
plain and simple. Owned by corporations....
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:23 PM
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25. Low taxes worked a treat for Ireland. Things are booming over there.
Dateline: sometime in 2006.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:33 PM
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26. Wow Obama admin adopting yet another republican plan - how shocking.
wtf man seriously wtf. :wtf:

Less taxes = less money for public education, social security, medicare, etc. How dumb was I to have voted for Obama? :banghead:
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 05:44 PM
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27. Looks like we have another Calvin Coolidge, re-incarnated
with a "D" before his name; and he's leading us straight back into another Gilded Age.

Only Calvin's "Gilded Age Revisited" eventually lead to the GREAT DEPRESSION.
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Still a Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 06:36 PM
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29. All these recs for a falsified headline
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 06:36 PM by Still a Democrat
My goodness.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:48 PM
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30. He's a Chicago Boy ...
Uncle Miltie would be proud.


cf: Shock Doctrine.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:49 PM
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31. What's a 20% cut of zero? n/t
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:54 PM
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32. Why nopt just cut corporate heads off? It's faster and will create more jobs.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 07:42 AM
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34. I suppose it's a stretch to suggest they reward corporations
for keeping jobs in the country. We're underwriting the outsourcing of our own jobs.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 08:37 AM
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35. How would you suggest we get them to come back?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:45 PM
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38. Giant taxes on the outsourcers and massive tariffs on what they bring back into the country.
As opposed to the current tax breaks they get for closing U.S. factories and paying people to train the foreign workers who will assume their job.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:57 PM
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40. They certainly shouldn't get any tax breaks for outsourced jobs
Tariffs are a different issue. They would likely violate free trade agreements we have signed and our trading partners would retaliate with tariffs of their own. China, on whom we depend to fund our profligate spending, could retaliate in other ways like dumping our debt on the market and driving our borrowing costs way up.

Market protection through tariffs was one of the causes of the war with Japan. Look up the Smoot-Hawley Tariff of 1930
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 09:46 AM
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36. Keep on reaching....

sooner or later yer gonna draw back a nub.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 12:47 PM
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39. Hopetastic! n/t
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Volaris Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-11 03:00 PM
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41. The ONLY way I'm cool with them cutting the Corp. tax rate is if
The IRS has the legal right to seize ANY company that doesn't pay its taxes (on time and IN FULL) and run it as a for-profit, Government entity until such time as said unpaid tax debt is paid. Otherwise, fuck ALL THAT noise.
=)
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