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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:41 PM
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OK. Say he stays in the House. What's his future there?
Eventually, the furor will die down, but Weiner will not be getting good committee assignments from the leadership. He won't be the spokesman for liberal issues that he. He won't be invited on the talking head shows. His strong suit, from what I've read, was never the writing or sponsoring of meaningful legislation and he's not known for forging alliances that advance progressive issues the way Bernie is. He's not really a policy wonk or technical legislative wonk. He'll continue to vote in a reliably progressive manner, but that's about it for his Congressional career. He'll be poison as far as his congressional peers are concerned. And yes, that includes progressives who are as liberal or more so than he is.

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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:44 PM
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1. None- he'll be redistricted away.
New York had a tough choice to make as to which Democratic seat to lose to the redistricting. That choice is now made if Weiner hangs on.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:51 PM
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8. quite right. he'll be the one to lose his seat to redistricting.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:44 PM
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2. Maybe he can become Ranking Member of the Committee on Financial Services.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:46 PM
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3. Yeah Bill Clinton sure threw away his life and aspirations with his scandal
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 01:46 PM by Shagbark Hickory
:sarcasm:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:50 PM
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7. I don't know why this is so tough for folks to grasp: the two cases aren't analogous
Why? Because Bill Clinton was a popular sitting President and the Congressional dems knew that their fates were inextricably linked to his. The same is obviously not true regarding a Congressman that the vast majority of Americans had never heard of prior to his political suicide by texting. The dems have nothing to gain politically by closing ranks around Weiner. It's politics 101 and this is all about politics.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 05:01 PM
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35. Wow. Doesn't that just sayit all... "The dems have nothing to gain politically ...
...by closing ranks around Weiner."

That's a good reason to throw someone under the bus.
But imo, getting rid of a great congressman over something perfectly legal that he did in his off time for fear it will make the rest of the democratic party look bad is selfish. If I was in his district, I'd probably have even more to say about that.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:05 PM
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19. But he sure did not help Al Gore in a close election
I thought Bill was a great prez, and sadly his lies may have created a ripple effect that hurt Al Gore in a very close election.

It's not just Weiner's constituents that are affected (even if a slim majority wants him to stay) - but lies effects the Dem brand at large, including enabling the liar. There is a ripple effect.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:43 PM
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27. It also opened the door for Leiberman
One of his main distinctions was having been the first Democrat to criticize Clinton during the scandal. Then he's VP nominee and gains power in the Senate.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:19 PM
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29. Gore ran away from Clinton. Clinton had something like 70% popularity
Gore chose to distance himself.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:57 PM
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34. Why? Al Gore won the election. nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:46 PM
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4. How do they get speaking time?
Aren't his best rants on the floor?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:55 PM
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11. it depends, but speaking time during debates is allocated
by the dem (or repub) managing the time for debate. That won't be Weiner
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:48 PM
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5. now tell us the future of CONGRESS w/o him...
are there any other fighters
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:49 PM
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6. Hopefully, we'll find out if he isn';t hounded out by the ":Dear me" brigade.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:42 PM
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32. An Emphatic +1000!!!
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:51 PM
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9. Eliot Spitzer came back as a talking head, and then managed to get rid of his co-anchor
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 01:51 PM by HipChick
and host his own show on CNN...Anthony's combativeness would make for good ratings in interview
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:56 PM
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13. That's true. I can see him doing that. He's a bright witty guy.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:01 PM
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16. Spitzer is good...too good for Kathleen Parker.
She faded into the background in comparison.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:51 PM
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10. personally I would take "voting in a reliably progressive manner"
over many other possible alternatives. But that's my district. His district could probably do better, but that is up to them to decide, isn't it?

What will really probably tip the scale depends on what the donors do. If his donations dry up, then he won't seek another term unless he still has an impressive war chest.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 01:56 PM
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14. Good point about the money
I hadn't thought about that. Though he could probably defeat a primary challenge, it wouldn't come cheap.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:02 PM
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17. As the first response pointed out, his district will be eliminated.
there's no doubt about that.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:17 PM
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23. Doesn't matter though.
There's still a district that includes his residence and probably some of his base. But yeah, if he has to run in a primary against a Democratic incumbent because of redistricting, then it definitely depends on the money. But that will still be a voter decision.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:04 PM
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18. This isn't rocket science
If he survives, his status will most likely be diminished. That's about as uncontroversial an assertion about this situation as is possible and like it or not, it's something his colleagues should consider.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:11 PM
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21. Some people want him gone for other reason and this is the perfect excuse
I'm not saying that Weiner is right, but many people who want him gone only want him gone because he talked to harshly to Republicans and didn't show them enough deference.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:24 PM
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25. Those people are called Republicans
Do you really think that Pelosi and co. are pushing him out because he didn't show enough deference? A much more logical answer would be that they now view him as a liability and of reduced usefulness, since he will be a less effective spokesman with this kind of public baggage. It will be easy enough to find somebody else who could win in his district and vote the way he did. There's no shortage of aspiring congressmen out there.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:07 PM
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20. shunned, laughed at and districted out of a job n/t
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:16 PM
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22. The American people have become used to crooks and perverts running....
their government, so why not another one? When primary season rolls around, his district will decide. Just like they loved Vitter in Loisiana, all this may be overcome.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:18 PM
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24. Current events will fade and he will continue to do his job.
And after that, whatever the hell he wants. Personally, I wonder at the idea that being a Congressman is a dead end job.
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:28 PM
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26. The Senate Perhaps?
Edited on Sun Jun-12-11 02:37 PM by fredamae
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 02:43 PM
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28. Two words- Barney Frank n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:20 PM
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30. 'nuff said n/t
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 03:39 PM
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31. talking heads shows.... hahahaha. n/t
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-11 04:54 PM
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33. I wish Wiener declare himself an independent, stay in congress and run for re-election
I believe he will win and will go on to be a better legislator than all these other blowhards that are carping for his head. He should also hang around and run for the senate sometime in the future.

Hang tough Wiener - screw all the wimpy democrat party (as they prefer to be called) dung-heads!
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