WOW ABC World News leads off with the deaths in Arizona

because of Brewers' removal of funds for organ transplants. Medical peeps are screaming. This is too sad. KO covered this already but finally it's gone mainstream.

Great start RETHUGS

PHOENIX - A second person denied transplant coverage by Arizona under a state budget cut has died, with this death "most likely" resulting from the coverage reduction, a hospital spokeswoman said Wednesday.

University Medical Center spokeswoman Jo Marie Gellerman said the patient died Dec. 28 at another medical facility after earlier being removed from UMC's list for a liver transplant needed because of hepatitis C.

Gellerman cited medical privacy requirements in declining to release any information about the patient.

Arizona reduced Medicaid coverage for transplants on Oct. 1 under cuts included to help close a shortfall in the state budget enacted last spring.

Officials at the Tucson, Ariz., hospital said the patient's death "most likely" resulted from Arizona's scaling back coverage for transplants, she said.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/06/health/main7219326.shtml?tag=stack

Sadly, death panels do exist----but they call themselves Arizona Republican health budget committees.

supporters -- never called them out for MEDICARE FOR ALL --

or anything else --

On the other hand, GOP has to rent their supporters -- Tbaggers/Kock Bros/oil industry

tools --

Same with everything else they have and paid for --

GOP/Christian Coalition --

GOP/NRA

GOP/"pro-life" fanatics

we need to start addressing the phenomenon as JANACIDE..just like last summer folks were talking about Arayanzona, we need to beat their asses in the message war!!!

jan brewer said we don't have the money - cut something else jan - stop killing people

I plan to challenge my neighbors on THIS one.

and it won't help ReTHUGS with their repeal crap.

because they had no access to health care.


I am one of the lucky ones with great insurance.My 20 year-old is now one,too.I will NEVER allow this to go unchallenged.

Watch and see.

that need to be ON THE ROLLS

This is access to extraordinary measures. It's not a right. Sorry.

with some exceptions, around first world economies.

Ironically they are the same MEDICAL exceptions that we use in the US... such as a drinker, don't get access to a liver, or age.

But money... that is not a qualifier.

It is called medico-legal ethics... I recommend people get familiar with it, and how these DEATH PANELS break those ethics.

How long do you think Dick Cheney is going to wait for a heart?


Wake up to the reality: transplants stopped being "the gift of life" ages ago and are now a commodity as much as gas and oil.

Why we need to have a single payer program and take the fucking profit out of health care

Smell that coffee.

You are wrong NashVegas. Transplants save a lives, it is health care. We can blow up hundreds of thousands of innocents in far away nations for oil at the tune of trillions, we can easily afford giving a hundred or so life-saving surgery for many thousands of times less. We are supposed to have the right to life. Poverty not allowing such a procedure interferes with that right. They should be covered.

We know you won't be needing a heart transplant anytime soon as yours seems to be made of indestructible cold, hard granite.

Welcome to the United States of Give Me Mine and Everybody Else Go to Hell. May you stay healthy --and wealthy-- long enough to enjoy it!

Their standard of living advances astronomically after transplant.
Heart and kidney transplant patients specifically do extraordinarily well.
pre-op..$200K/year...
post-op,they can work again and support their families.You do the math.

Coming soon to a state near you. Goes well with the "leave your handicapped children at the shelter" advice that Indiana officials put out just before Thanksgiving.

What a sick, sick society. Talk about screwed up priorities. But the 1% got their tax cuts.

This is so egregious and yet the people who support these ass holes will still claim moral superiority.

Healthier Dem's than I should carry placards with pictures of these unfortunates to every republican event and chant you are the death panel, you are the death panel...

the "US is the only country where all the poor people are fat" thing. True or not, there is far more to life than food, and far more to poverty than lack of food.

I live below the poverty line myself, and eat well and wisely, but I don't qualify for and can't afford any insurance programs, nor does my family. Its not a daily worry, but any medical issues were to arise we'd be on the chopping block too, so to speak. There is at present no expectation of social mobility toward greater access, and no "downward flow" of services, so poverty is a little like being shoved aside permanently, and still trying to appear as if it were not so.

Librul bias! Librul bias! Librul bias! :sarcasm:

And tomorrow morning, we'll hear the right-wing talking pin-heads screaming about 'librul bias' because they're attacking Jan Brewer's fiscal prudence. they'll also claim that their claims that President Obama's still-unfolding health care reforms lead to "death panels" and that what is happening in Arizona under Rethugly state government is positive "proof." :sarcasm:

:argh:


The most upsetting part is just how much of the presently-active electorate is going to buy into that right-wing talking-point.

I am increasingly convinced that the only successful cure for America's continuing love affair with so-called "conservatism" is enough pain so widespread over the rest of the population that Americans will be whispering about what happened under Gingrich, Boosh, Boehnor, etc. decades from now.

:dem:

:patriot:

"How can I look at myself in the mirror when we allow our own citizens to die,starve,and fight an unneccesary war for the almighty dollar?"

I hope that those who consider themselves true Christians will get the wake-up call.

I don't think that progressives are getting good reception on the banks of Red- and Red-State Denial. Me, I'm not really a proper liberal, but I've met a fair scattering of people who used to be moderate and moderate-conservative Republicans who finally just couldn't stomach what today's Republican Party has changed into.

I thought there were enough of those people, as well as enough wishy-washy people like myself, along with enough genuine progressives to stop this TEA Party (expletive deleted) dead in its tracks in November. I'm still half-dazed and wondering WTF happened.

Here's hoping some more thinking people find themselves wrestling with their consciences as they try to fall asleep. And here's hoping that their consciences have been diligently working out and practicing their judo skills.

This one will backfire big time. Then there will be the organ donor backlash. The rich even want the organs for themselves. If Cheney opts for a heart transplant, the noise will get louder.
Health care can still break the RETHUGS

It would take a lot of good people voting to make this evil backfire not only for Arizona republicans, but also for GOPsters and other reactionaries across the country. I just hope that the good guys turn out to vote in much higher numbers than they did in 2010.

People, including nazi party members, have known for years that 100,000 people are dying per year due to lack of health care, and don't give a toss. I don't think the attitude of one of my former co-workers of "too bad if people can't afford health care" is all that unusual. There's a lot of stupidity in this country to get worked up about a fetus being destroyed, but not care about when an adult is allowed to die due to not being rich enough to afford health care.

We shall see

My thought was they would skip straight to blaming it on "Obamacare" and claiming its a part of the bill that was passed.

Im starting to agree with the rest of what you have said. Only I'm not sure that even that is going to be enough. They learned a lot of lessons from the fall of other totalitarian governments, I think. Particularly with the disconnected technological nature of our society, I could see them waiting till it hurts, then taking over by force. Then you are kinda stuck without a chance to have any change to allow us to think of bush and boner as the bad ol days.

"Brewer earlier Wednesday renewed her defense of the transplant coverage reduction but expressed a willingness to have it reviewed.

"It's something that probably needs to be discussed," Brewer said. "Everybody is concerned about it, as I am. The bottom line is ... that was one of those areas that we could cut and we moved forward on that."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/06/health/main7219326.shtml?tag=stack

"Everybody is concerned about it, as I am. It's something that probably needs to be discussed." :wtf:

Like Brewer hadn't factored into her idiotic decision that white people might die too?

coupled with narcissism.

is that she is a typical right wing freakoid.

was worried about Death Panels .. sheesh. Leave it to a Republican Governor. This just proves Republicans have NO HEART.

:kick:

:hi:

that ABC did that story. AMAZING.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/News/arizona-transplant-deaths/story?id=12559369

:hi:

:hi:

it's about time they see what all their cutting is going to get them. Too bad the rest of us have to suffer and die because of their incredible stupidity!

They earned their 'entitlements' but cut those of others.

Brewer was elected by "the people", so apparently "the people" are fine with this sort of thing.

Many people only care about this sort of thing when it hits close to home.. THEIR home.

There is still hope if you can vote her out:) I thought she ran on her own this time

:hi:

I thought she was running:)

are the stupidist electorate in the country. They make the citizens in Mississippi look smart.

Never forget that it's all about greed, fear, and lies with these folks.

They claim to be Christians, but they are not.

They are repub Christians.

They do not follow the Prince of Peace.

They do not follow the Sermon on the Mount.

They are immoral, disgusting, and will rot in you know where if that is what you believe exists.

CNN just did a story on this and a new Dem state rep exposed Repuke lies about it. he called it "Brewercare". This needs to go viral.

Go Dems! Link this to the attempted repeal

Deserves its own thread.

JANOCIDE is a better name, and folks will remember it

That's excellent. I love both. :applause:

but as the next election looms closely, they will go back to "fair & balanced" (against anything democrat & pro anything republican)

Or spend their dollars on the overpriced licensed (foreign-made) merchandise being peddled in their gift shops.

They are absolute sociopaths and will collapse under the weight of their own extremism.

extreme? Yes my accusation should be extreme... her policy decision is costing lives. It's tuime the people charged politicians this way everytime they sign legislation. You cause death, you pay.

even had the organ donated already by a relative...instead a stranger with insurance got the organ, because the money for the transplant had been withdrawn.

will be given to the rich while their own folks die, the Brewers of this planet will have to run and hide.

Considering the state of limp news reporting, we
were very surprised that they showed something that
looked badly for Arizona.

...I'll lay odds that tonight, they will soft soap it...

one of the Wicked Witch of the West. I keep seeing one video and her expression matches perfectly.

health care only for the rich, and the people who can't actually benefit from it

but first learned of the Arizona health care scandal on Thom Hartmann today.

That's why I was surprised at ABC leading with this

Only PBS, MSNBC, NPR, and the Internet. Still, I am satisfied that the networks (I haven't watched the ABC report yet) can still come up with great hard-hitting pieces every once in a while in the sea of overhyped infotainment Lindsay Lohan goes to jail/Mel Gibson leaves threatening voice mails stories.

Americans?

HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT! These people are un-American, people who would deny the right to life to someone because of money!

Shameful! But sadly, that is just one of the over 44,000 killed by our health care system every year.

Brewer really is a piece of scum.