Stick It To 'Em Weiner

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Posted by katiehalper at 11:37 am
June 10, 2011
We Want Weiner: 5 Reasons & Slogans for Weiner Support

When Rep. Allyson Schwartz (D-PA) became the first democrat to call on Weiner to resign, she claimed to do so in the name of his constituents: “Having the respect of your constituents is fundamental for a Member of Congress. In light of Anthony Weiner’s offensive behavior online, he should resign.” Well, I agree Congresswoman Schwartz, that the respect of your constituents is fundamental. Now that we know that Weiner has the support of 56% of his constituents, can we, out of respect to said constituents, stop asking him to resign? And since the national approval rating for Congress is among the lowest it’s been for nearly 40 years, perhaps Congresswoman Schwartz and all members of congress should resign or at least work harder to actually win the respect of their constituents.

There are serious reasons why it would be wrong for Anthony Weiner to resign.

1) for those people claiming to care about the constituents, his constituents don’t want him to resign.

2) for those People claiming to care about his wife, well his wife doesn’t want him to resign. But she is pregnant! For shame? You know what’s worse than having an unemployed husband? Having an unemployed husband when you’re pregnant and then when you have a child.

3) for those people claiming to care about standards, morality, decency, first get rid of Senator Vitter who actually broke the law by soliciting prostitutes, and offends, I’d assume, your sense of decency with his penchant for diapers. Also, by campaigning on “family values” and attempting to legislate morality, Vitter is a hypocrite who violates the very norms he defends and engages in the so-called deviancy he condemns.

4) for those of you claiming to care about Weiner’s lies, of all the lies told by politicians, is this really the one we want someone to resign over? This lie– about Mr. Weiner’s own personal weapon of mass destruction, not literal Weapons of Mass destruction– did not kill anyone or make the world less safe.

5) for those who claim that Weiner is distracting the Democrats from focusing on Ryan’s medicare debacle, this speaks not to a Weiner weakness, but the failure of non-Weiner democrats to play the media as well as the Republicans do. Don’t LET this become a distraction. The sad irony is that Weiner is probably the only democrat with the cojones (which we KNOW he has) and skill to move the discourse away from Weinergate and re-focus on attacking the Republicans.

Much has been made of Weiner’s weiner and Weiner’s Weiner name. I, for one, have chosen to reclaim the nomenclature and use it as a tool for Weiner Support by, for example, identifying myself as pro-Weiner and Weiner positive, and starting a “No Weiner, No Peace” Facebook Page. Here are some slogans to help us exalt our Weiner.

Please!:woohoo:

:rofl:

yeah, you know who the faux dems are... the ones who are non-populist.

100 % agree.

forgot to add the link

http://www.facebook.com/WeSupportAnthonyWeiner

I'm a member there.

then i just started to write to him to "stick it out" and stopped short. true story.
i don't want him to resign that's the truth.

Maybe the whole lot of them are frauds and sellouts. Maybe they know that Weiner has no defense and it'd be a waste of time trying.

She's a grown adult and anything but a DINO (How many DINOs have run Planned Parenthood clinics?). My guess is that she realizes that Weiner's teenaged-boy antics are distracting from the job he's supposed to be doing.

How goes that whole campaign of his to reveal Clarence Thomas' financial bias against health care reform? What? He's been a little distracted lately?

Look, I used to be one of his biggest fans, but you don't have to be a "DINO" to think we need a less-distracting spokesperson for the Democratic wing of the Democratic party, and for all of the things that Weiner wanted to accomplish. We need an adult in there.

And your congresswoman needs to keep her nose out of NY business.

illness that was brought on probably from trauma in his childhood. I have a mental illness and my behavior at times has been atrocious. People have judged me and stopped being my friend because of it even though at the time I had no control over it and did not even know what was happening and was not being treated for it yet.

Maybe that is why I don't tend to stand on a high horse and judge others the way I see people on this board do.

There but for the grace of God go I...............

It isn't illegal. It is stupid and self destructive with an obvious end result so I may at least as you "Why are you doing that?"

:)

And, thanks. :)

Oh, the ninth district wants to keep its Weiner
He represents his people oh so well.
His rightwing foes just couldn't be any meaner
And they can all go straight right down to hell.

Hang in there, Weiner! :fistbump:

:applause:

:hi:

earworm with a more musical one!

juvenile and stupid and lowers normal political debate, what the hell ever that is any more.

stupidity has no party line

I'm sure.

besides I don't wear jewellery, let alone pearls. but that won't stop you defining me as an old lady that gasps and clutches pearls at the thought of 'sex'.

This is not about sex tho, but I suppose it's hard to understand for some.

And some disagees with you that this isn't about sex. This is totally about how a sex story makes people disengage their frontal lobes.

right.

Its about he being a stupid ass and giving ammunition to the media. and giving Brietbart some cred, ffs.

and surely you must know the root word for histrionics. it's connected to hysterectomies. you know, if the little woman is all in a flap about something it must have somthing to do with her sexuality, just cut it out and she'll be a good stepford wife.

lol.

sheesh

One of the sexiest men who ever lived Sir Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester wore a large teardrop pearl on his left ear and I believe it is in a painting in the Victoria and Albert museum if memory serves. Men wear single pearls today on one ear or the other. The term pearl clutching however is a descriptive phrase and portrays folks who are up tight about others morals and that can be anyone. But if that is the only straw you have to grasp at, have at it.

and presently men do not usually wear pearls, I'd say you are wrong. but nice try. Also, the term pearl clutcher doesn't refer to clutching ones earrings, but a string of pearls, twirling them in anxiety like a nervous little nelly would do.

a drag ball to clear things up. You said men do not wear pearls and that is flat out wrong.

believe what you will, but pearls, generally, are an adornment for women. Of course it is your right to think otherwise.

... of weinergate.

. . . clutch your Weiner!!!

wiener this, wiener that. stinky wiener, small wiener, stupid wiener.

bleh.
lol

:rofl:

is the dems and other liberals (like yourself) that are calling for him to resign. Way to validate the right wing hate machine.

"Histrionicus" means "pertaining to an actor," and evolved in English into the word "histrionic."

It's Latin. It has nothing to do with the Greek word "hyster" for womb.

Sheesh.

I'm surprised he didn't suggest it referred to anyone, of any sex, who "gets their panties in a twist"

From Msmagazine.com/blog (April 2010)

Stevens Steps Down; White Men Clutch Their Pearls

White men clutching their pearls? But, but... only women in need of hysterectomies can clutch their pearls!!

I heard it on DU.

;)

for real women.

I'm embarrassed to say that I just read it for the articles, honest! :sarcasm: not the pages and pages of ridiculous cosmetic ads, pages and pages of emaciated women that are supposed to look like minors with a lot of make up on - but I must admit I haven't picked up a 'women's' (ha!) mag up in ages, maybe they have something other than 'how to please your maaaaaan' shit these days, but doubting it.

maybe because of being a Catholic when I was younger.

Can find no reference to the Rosary with a quick web search, I'm probably wrong, who knows.

at this will put it into its proper prospective. Go Weiner Go!

... Nothing could be less important and these button's and t's give the issue the respect it deserves.

I wish you'd mention Congresswoman Jenkins too http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1278937

1. She may have had an affair
2. She never lied about it only because the media never investigated it. The media didn't ask, and she didn't tell.
3. How many more people in Congress can we find dirt on?

of Social Security and Medicare, for one thing.

Why didn't the moderates revolt? Chafee told of how he expected Bush to reach out the the moderates, but instead that Cheney told them 'you are gonna do this and you are gonna do that'. Which I would expect to cause a backlash, but they just fell right in line. Then there was a pattern of former advisors/cabinet members being critical and then recanting. Like somebody made a call to remind them 'we know where your grandkids live' or 'we have this dirt on you.'

Of course SOMEBODY was sending government grade anthrax to people that Bush didn't like and for some reason they could never find out who it was.

But some get investigated and some don't. Some have a RWNM to pile on them and flog the issue, and some don't.

edit to fix spelling, even though anthraz is a pretty cool word.

I like this:

'First they came for Weiner and I didn't stand up because I didn't have one'

Very accurate:

I know that's not saying much, but it's a good post!

this post.

:toast:

The country needs him. He made a mistake, but like you said his mistake and he lied but his lies and mistakes didn't make two wars and a major recession.

More Weiner, not less :thumbsup:

One: because it is bullshit and a distraction and I am not getting sucked into it.
Two: because the only time I give a flying fuck about a politician or public figure's sex life is when there's ILLEGAL activity going on. the rest is none of my beeswax. R or D...there's sllimeballs on both sides of the aisle and misappropriation of funds and rape and such is FAR more important!
Three: because i have been waiting for this to blow over and for people to realize what legislation is getting rammed through as we are distracted by bullshit.
and mostly... because I can't wait for Weiner to get back on track fighting the good progressive fight, regardless of his penis' whereabouts!

So on that note.... K& Fuckin' R!
(ps...I like the coffee mug) ;)

My first Weiner post.

Even while wishing everyone would STFU about the good Congressman's private life.

:kick:

Too funny

:dem:

nt

Screw all you turds who are throwing Wiener to the wolves while Boner gets a total pass on screwing that lobbyist!

Appreciate the laughs, Even appreciate the sanity more.

It takes the edge off. lol :)

He's a good, outspoken liberal representative. I think that's way more important than his recent peccadillo.

Statements from Obama and Pelosi just reinforce my declining respect for the Democratic Party. They are following the Republicans down the path of "family values"- which is really just public relations cover for abandoning working people and the middle class.

and it's exactly what I'm thinking, too.

Anthony Weiner is what Democrats USED TO BE. A strong, fiery, outspoken Progressive that I've seen little of in today's Democratic Party.

Thank you for writing such a succinct, truthful comment, hay rick.

Sorry. Had to do that. :7

k & r

... Indeed!

My sentiments

Now, as your Black Jack twitter friend encouraged you to... Get out there and stick it to these cock-sucking Republicans!

K&R

I just think that if this was a Republican, the people here would be lining up calling for his resignation.

Call me jaded, but that's the way it seems to me. I don't think all this cheerleading and coffee mugs is really necessary either.

To me, it's really a non-issue. It's way overblown. Personally I think he should resign but I don't really care that much, enough to spend my valuable time making t-shirts and buttons about it.

More than anything, the episode shows Weiner's plain stupidity, and I personally wouldn't want to have a stupid Representative making decisions for the country. I know that anything I write in an email, say to someone at work, could potentially be seen by my boss. I wouldn't even send a crude joke to someone at work for this reason. If I want to write something sexy in an email I would send it to my wife, or someone I know and trust. I just can't imagine the stupidity of doing what he did and that bothers me more than anything. I mean, this guy doesn't have his finger on the button, but he's making important decisions for our country.

But seriously folks, if this guy was a Republican, how many of you would be defending him and making coffee mugs for him? If you want to be objective, you can't have a double standard.

I resent Republicans because they refuse to live and let live. They need to stick their nose in every aspect of other people's lives, but don't want anyone to pay attention to their true beliefs and behaviors.

When it comes to a Democrat, I still sneer and ask what this guy was thinking? Do I think any of these blowhards (and boy did Weiner just give new meaning to that phrase?) need to resign? Only when they have actually broke the law and there is a prosecutor actually getting ready to prosecute them. If the Justice Department doesn't have a case, but there is just a whisper campaign afoot, then no. It just looks bad for them.

If Larry Flynt has a case and writes about it, that still is not enough to push them (Vitter especially) out of office. It might cause a great deal of embarrassment and media might try to humiliate them all the time, but they should not go just because they have dishonored their families. It is too stringent a standard for us humans to stand under. If the media had the same standard or our employers had the same standards, some of us would be unable to work anymore.

i hope he stays - his politics are what is important.

- Woody Allen , Deconstructing Harry.


NYC, also.

Thanks just the same, DEM leadership. We like our Weiner just fine.

Now go out and raise some more campaign $$$$.... or whatever it is you do.

No reason to and thought he should fight hard for his wife. And Resigning isn't it. Originally it was the Dems shooting their feet off. Right now I think they stepped on a grenade. I have a feeling he might resign now. But he could easily come right back.

Ask people when the wars began.

:)

Liberate Weiner!

Sexual activity between consenting adults should NOT be scrutinized by the church OR the republican party

:rofl:

but, unfortunately, so true.

shit, Bernie is not even a Democrat; so that leaves Kucinich the next target.



*** there is not even a SHRED of doubt that Weiner was deliberately politically assassinated;


it is simply a fact.

- unfortunately, the chances of recovering from this are virtually null

let's not pile on him..Maybe a nervous breakdown, maybe not...

I agree, he needs some space and time.
This country has other problems then this guy and his mental illness.

Look carefully at the five points listed.
they make sence to me.............

then the fact that he was forced out, be cause of them, will be used as an excuse to f**k with the internet and make new regulations. This will just open the door for more regulations. I support Weiner. I also like the coffee cup.

From someone in the industry...
Move "Stick it" to the same line as "out".
So it reads like so:
"Weiner,
Stick it out!
Don't resign"


Same with the tote bag...
"First they came for the weiner
& I didn't speak out
because I didn't have one.."

I have a penis in my ear!

they want weinergate to go away because they fear it tarnishes the democratic brand and therefore their chances at re-election. the easiest, myopic, spineless, cowardly way to make this go away is to have him resign.

defending him, attacking republicans who have far worse scandals, or changing the topic would just be too hard for them, apparently.

Anthony's antics are just that - he is no hypocrite and did not break the law.

congressman are not interested in what his constituents have to say. Just another form of failed democracy. I do not like what he did but I have no business tell him what he should do. I am not one of his constituents. We are letting the rethugs set the agenda for us. Their rules, their morality play, their media and their victory. We get nothing out of getting rid of Weiner.

so far, don't see any progress --

One of the most disappointing arguments has been that this is a battle for sexual freedom --

Really -- ?

We're pushing this Weiner fight because we want to ensure that all of our male and female

members of Congress have the freedom to e-mail pictures of their genitals to their political

fans on the internet?

Just as with every other issue, there will be guidelines and limits on behavior.

The appropriate and the inappropriate.




Whatever we may think of party leadership right now, it is up to the Democratic Party

to monitor its own members -- including ethically.

There is no election taking place right now and though "constituents" may be expressing

support or non-support for Weiner, it will be the national party hearing about it.



As for sad issues like Weiner's wife -- unemployment, whatever -- they are all things

which WEINER should have been considering BEFORE he elected to adopt this behavior.


Republicans are responsible for their own standards, morality -- and Vitter -

Democratic Party, however, is responsible for OUR standards, morality, ethics -- and Weiner --


It is true that Weiner's lies didn't kill anyone -- and, technically, the Repugs could make

the same argument about Vitter. Are those really the downward spiral arguments we want to make?


The distractions due to this scandal imo have to be stopped -- but obviously they won't be

until this is all talked out here -- and we come to a better judgment of what we are arguing

for and against -- so, let's get on with it!!



There are now existing tremendous problems with the Democratic Party and few of us could deny

that -- it's not a matter of "cajones" however -- it's a problem of campaign financing and

the impact it's been having over 40 years and more on our party and our elected officials.

The fact that the rightwing Koch Bros. funded the DLC -- and that very few Americans or DU'ers

have known about that -- and the fact that the Koch/DLC was harbored within the Democratic

Party for decades without its being openly discussed -- or brought to the attention of the

public by ANY Democratic member of the party -- must be seen as something very questionable.


While I'm all for fighting against the perversions, lack of ethics, and illegalities of

Clarence Thomas and Vitter -- I think it has to be recognized that Weiner has WEAKENED our

arguments against those two PERVERTS rather than strengthened them!!


I also understand that your OP was also intended to be based on humor --

but imo "stick it to em" isn't a slogan we want to adopt as we try to reach

the public and have them develop confidence in Democrats and their elected members.

but I do think this argument has to move -- it cannot remain with hard positions

on both sides -- and I think we need to continue to talk about.

I'll post on your page or s 1's anytime. And I like both of your posts.

We're just trying to straighten out our heads, after corporate repug lamestream media has finished spinning them. No one wants to look like Linda Blair.

I hope we can come to better understandings about this at DU because

I don't like to see this much time and energy expended without at least

all of us arriving at some new insights!


:)

However, perhaps Massachusettes and the public recognized that an accident

had occurred -- ? Even if one wants to argue for an affair, certainly no one

believed that Ted Kennedy purposefully killed his passenger --

BELATEDLY, HOWEVER ... and perhaps it was what the nation sensed ... as we look

again at Chappaquiddick -- and various tapes from Nixon's administration --

it seems clear that Nixon and his "plumbers" may have been involved in creating

the accident.

There is a Nixon WH tape where John Dean is saying to Nixon ... "Wouldn't Ted Kennedy

be surprised to know of the 'bear trap' he is walking into this weekend." --

This was the Friday before Chappaquiddick. There is an limit even to how much political

violence the rw can pull off -- finally they have to move to other means -- i.e.,

"accidents" and stolen elections.

Former Rep. Richard Sprague has some interesting insights into threats against the Kennedy's

and into the Chappaquiddick incident.

Will come back with a link for you as soon as I can.

But, I'd also rethink every election back to Nixon/Humphrey -- and wonder if there ever was

a "Southern Strategy" or whether there only ever was Diebold computers?

You know Mae Brussell.

On Diebold - Triad - ES&S - Sequoia - Hart, we are talking about how the repugs can alter reality, electronically. So back to Weiner.

The repugs can alter reality as long as we aren't united in their face. Timid dems and indys think that both sides have a point, and only one side is screaming and crying (when you hear 'screaming and crying', you're thinking 'repugs', I'll bet. Bid farewell to the term 'hysteria', cause the repugs are a bunch of dudes.)

If we unify behind the non-tweeting principles of Weiner, we strengthen timid dems and indys.

Kennedy - Kopechne - Smathers&Nixon - Chappaquiddick. OK.

You know Mae Brussell.

Glad to see you might be reading Mae Brussell, especially --

but refresh my memory on Smathers --


On Diebold - Triad - ES&S - Sequoia - Hart, we are talking about how the repugs can alter reality, electronically. So back to Weiner.

The altering of reality was the suggestion that there was a "Southern Strategy" which would

allegedly explain the switch from Dems to Repugs in the South -- yet, Segregation, Inc. was

also a stone around the necks of the Southern population -- not, of course, to the degree

that it was a stone around the necks of African Americans in the South -- but SEGREGATION was

the CAP on all the other issues-- i.e., labor rights, unions, feminism, freedom from religion.

It was essential for elites that given this loss of a huge segment of the population which they

could exploit for profit that it go no further than that!!

Trust you have read Votescam - The Stealing of America -- ?

This all begins in the late 1960s -- actually the large computers used by MSM came in during

mid-1960's -- you can challenge every election back to Nixon/Humphrey.

AND, the journalists who investigated computer voting in Florida in the late 1960's REPORTED

their conclusions to Larry O'Brien head of the DNC -- they had to leave the info for him --

and this was just before Watergate. Had the Dem party dealt with that information at that

time, we wouldn't be where we are now.

John Mitchell, AG for Nixon told us quite adamantly ... "This country is going to go so far

to the right it will make your head spin" --

How would Mitchell know anything like that unless it was a rw conspiracy -- and there was

some plan or system in place to make it happen?


Re WEINER --

The repugs can alter reality as long as we aren't united in their face. Timid dems and indys think that both sides have a point, and only one side is screaming and crying (when you hear 'screaming and crying', you're thinking 'repugs', I'll bet. Bid farewell to the term 'hysteria', cause the repugs are a bunch of dudes.)

Not quite sure what you are saying here --

but, elected Democrats and the Democratic Party have not been standing up for the ideals of

the party -- nor speaking out as they should be. Solely, that seems to be due to corporate

money and its influences over the party -- and the fact that a great number of Dem members

of Congress are millionaires or multi-millionaires -- overall, both parties, it's 44%.

It's unrealistic to expect that these are the people who will concern themselves with the

welfare of the masses!

Apropos of nothing on that one. (Or apropos of a big Carl Oglesby-style Yankee-Cowboy war dissertation.) I know you paid attention to Mae Brussell, from earlier posts. I can't give you a link on Smathers and Nixon, unless I want to expose my wife's computer to the same problems I am currently having. No q mark, back slash, drop and drag, copy-paste, etc. What with all the women computer operators on this site, I was hoping Lisbeth Salander might benevolently step in, and restore my windows functions.

I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that I listened to Mae during her first runs, late '80's on KCUP. I heard her last broadcast.

Diebold Triad etc -- there was a lot of hanky panky on the '60 election, but Nixon was stealing things in the South and Illinois at least as much as Joe and John K. It's just that everyone hated Nixon, cause he was such a repug p. o. s., and he sweated & lied so much. That was a lucky happenstance for America, imo, though bush, E. Howard Hunt, and H.L. and Nelson Bunker Hunt remedied the situation for the repugs. Repugs like to whine about Cook county, but ignore the repug county next door in Illinois that had an impossible turn-out for Dick nix in '60.

Nixon and his plumbers did create Chappaquiddick. Sprague was better than G. Rob Blakely, in terms of House Committee on Assassinations.

I have not read Votescam, but I like hard copy, so give me an author name. On voter fraud, I'm on top of the issue, electronic or otherwise.

Re Weiner -- he is an elected Dem who is standing up for the ideals of the party, and I thought we were on the same team on THIS issue.

My 'bid farewell to the term hysteria' statement was a tribute to all the right-on Dem women that I admire publicly on the site, including you. Imagine if Pelosi had cried 1 ten thousandth of the amount that shit-head boehner does.

Last part of this post would be Re Weiner -- 2 lines up from this one. But I'm technologically inprofficient, and under cyber attack, so no drop and drag, copy-paste on this edit. Such is life.

along the way, I recall that at least one of the investigators commented that evidently

JFK wasn't distrustful enough of Smathers --

M. J. Kopechne was an aide to (conservative Dem. )Sen. Smathers in FL, and he backed Nixon.

So thanks for the refresher on him -- whatever else I can google if I need to know more --


unless I want to expose my wife's computer to the same problems I am currently having. No q mark, back slash, drop and drag, copy-paste, etc. What with all the women computer operators on this site, I was hoping Lisbeth Salander might benevolently step in, and restore my windows functions.

If it wasn't too long ago that you lost your ? etal -- can you correct it with system restore?



I'm pretty sure that I mentioned that I listened to Mae during her first runs, late '80's on KCUP. I heard her last broadcast.

You probably did tell me that -- but I don't always connect these things with a poster's name --

there are few here that I recognize by name -- but getting familiar with yours!


Diebold Triad etc -- there was a lot of hanky panky on the '60 election, but Nixon was stealing things in the South and Illinois at least as much as Joe and John K. It's just that everyone hated Nixon, cause he was such a repug p. o. s., and he sweated too much. That was a lucky happenstance for America, imo.

Agree --


I have not read Votescam, but I like hard copy, so give me an author name. On voter fraud, I'm on top of the issue, electronic or otherwise.

Here's the link --

VOTESCAM -- THE STEALING OF AMERICA

By James & Kenneth Collier -- who were two journalists in Florida who began to notice the

strange and unverifiable results in the late 1960's in Florida elections.

Book is available -- paperback -- here and there for $3 --

Make sure all the pages are intact -- one copy I had from a library had one of the most

essential pages missing.

HOWEVER, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ THE BOOK ON THE WEBSITE IN ITS ENTIRETY --

Though I can't say that's definitely so at moment because the website seems a bit neglected.

They wrote their book under contract -- and when it reached the bookstores/shelves it was

immediately taken down. Well written, interesting and humorous book which I got a lot from.

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm


PS: They also begin to make clear the MSM's active role in election steals.

Always here you can hear about how the rw media lies -- but never have heard any suggestion

here that the MSM was assisting with manipulating results -- long before Jon Ellis/Fox/2000.




Re Weiner -- he is an elected Dem who is standing up for the ideals of the party, and I thought we were on the same team on THIS issue.

Hey, I was agreeing with people suggesting he run for president --

Frankly, I think you and I have more awareness of the dangers resulting from his attacks

on Thomas -- the rightwing's trump card on the Supreme Court than Weiner seemed to have!

But I would say the position he put himself in to be entrapped shocks me --

and makes me think him extremely naive and foolish. Think he also blew a fantastic opportunity.

But, am I willing to make the world safe for Dem and Repug politicians to e-mail their genitals

to their political fans -- NO!

You have a lot of great info.

No user friendly solution to my software problems. Sys restore doesn't cut it. F2 and F8 and F12 on boot up allow me to actually push the q-back slash button, and the system acts like they are there. There are a lot of backslashes and q's in http addresses, apropos of something. What, I don't know, but I used to go up there and drag copy paste to get a q or slash when I needed it. Then that function cut out also.

I used my wife's computer a few times, and I always open Window Task Manager (processes tab), on this computer and hers. Strangely, her computer always clones iexplorer.exe, though this one doesn't. Only internet window opens, and there is a second iex.exe running parallel on hers. I don't want her computer to go down, due to my lack of savvy.

I'm reading the Colliers' Votescam now. Thanks. But the domain looks like it was taken over by telecoms. I get a picture of a college woman in some sunny locale, along with a lot of telecom sale pitches, when I tried to go to purchase the hard-copy book. I'll have to order elsewhere, but am reading it on line now. Reading it on line reminds me of Bev Harris (from Black Box Voting) and the format she uses for her on-line book. Also reminds me of Douglas Adams and Dave Barry's forays into the wild and wonderful new world of the internets, '80's - '90's. I don't know why.

Weiner has left a lot of good Dems feeling betrayed by his dumbness, including my Mother in law and wife. I suggest 'let the punishment fit the crime'. No tweeting or video games for Rep. Weiner, until he crushes this repug assault on Medicare and forces Thomas to recuse himself. Hama and Anthony can call a presser at the Congressional gym, and she can knee him in the groin for photograhers and vid media. We can punish Weiner for lying like we punish Breitbart. We'll make Weiner do literally hundreds of hours on mainstream TV, pushing our party's policies. That's what they did to the syphilitic Breitbart the last thousand times he got caught lying.

Please check out Max Blumenthal's story on Rev. Moon's Wash Times assault on Hama and Anthony (6-13-11). It is well worth it.
Can't post the link. I have computer probs.

Mae Brussell is the tops.

3rd para, the line should read "Only ONE internet window opens, and ..."

will buy a hard-copy version. Fan - effn - tastic.

Those crazy yippies. Thanks again, d&p!

to chap 3 (no q)

Chap 3 Bruun vs Beiler -- ok.
nevermind.

'Ellsberg's "'71" revelations are just too dam late. Rand & Cia are always the last to know. still +1

Chapter 7 - Page 37

http://prernalal.com/banned%20books/The%20Taking%20of%20America%20-%20Richard%20Sprague.pdf


Also, here's some additional info on the John Dean comments --

John Dean summed it up when he said to Richard Nixon as recorded on the White House tapes in 1973: "If Teddy knew the bear trap he was walking into at Chappaquiddick. . . ."<5>


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3. A rope attached to the stick which held the Oldsmobile throttle wide open caught the drivers rear view mirror and tore it loose so that it was hanging by the rear bolt. There was no other mark on the left side of the car.

4. A sliver of glass from two broken windows no doubt caused this bleeding since Mary Jo was already face down and unconscious in the rear seat. Since there was no autopsy this clean cut went unnoticed by the embalmers.

5. On page 121, White House Tapes Paperback Edition, published by New York Times
http://www.blackopforum.info/index.php?topic=122.0

Daily Sally: My Ted Kennedy Chappaquiddick Story
John Dean: ...if they get those bank records between the start of July of 1969 ... If Kennedy knew the bear trap he was walking into.... --Watergate tape, 3/13/73 ...
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Evidence that Ted Kennedy was Framed by CIA- Chappaquiddick
John Dean summed it up when he said to Richard Nixon as recorded on the White House tapes in 1973: "If Teddy knew the bear trap he was walking into at Chappaquiddick. ...
www.blackopforum.info/ index.php?topic=122.0 - 107k - Cached


http://surftofind.com/nixon

It is now quite clear and obvious that the Watergate burglars were tied to the murder of John F. Kennedy, and Haldeman does not mince words when he says, "It seems that in all of those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination."

History is one big lie because we fail to expose the truth.

In his memoirs, Nixon said that "the factual truth could probably never be completely reconstructed, because each of us had become involved in different ways and no one's knowledge at any given time exactly duplicated anyone else's." Richard Nixon was wrong.
High level obstructions of justice within the FBI made the Watergate investigation superficial, but the cover up ultimately exposed the truth. The Kennedy assassination investigation is no different because, having successfully obscurred what Nixon called "the factual truth," high level obstruction of justice within the FBI made the Kennedy assassination investigation an absolute whitewash, and the cover up is the crime. Indeed, the factual truth that Richard Nixon's estate is still trying to block, is no longer in doubt.

History is one big lie, when we fail to expose deception, time has a way of exposing all the factual truths that Richard Nixon thought he had buried.

First and foremost, we need to clearly appreciate the fact that Richard Nixon's greatest shortcoming was not Watergate, but his direct involvement in the domestic, assassination plots of the 1960's.
Indeed, it is a documented, proven fact that Nixon's cronies plotted outright political murder (Jack Anderson was lucky to survive.) He was scheming to have people beaten up. He associated with mobsters. Nazi propaganda films were being shown in the White House. His men schemed to burglarize Republican headquarters and blame it on the Democrats. They schemed to plant McGovern campaign literature in the apartment of Art Brehmer, the would-be assassin of George Wallace, and the evidence strongly suggests they probably even schemed to assassinate Ted Kennedy, and after having failed, they blamed the fortunate survivor for the death of unintended victim, Mary Jo Kopechne.
Indeed, Nixon's memoirs are littered with evidence that as far as he was concerned, Chappaquiddick was nothing more than an election issue, it had nothing to do with a tragic murder. To quote Richard Nixon directly:

In the short term, I knew that Chappaquiddick would undermine Kennedy's role as a leader of the opposition to the administration's policies. In the longer term, it would be one of his greatest liabilities if he decided to run for President in 1972.

It was clear that the full story of what had happened that night on Chappaquidick had not come out, and I suspected that the press would not try very hard to uncover it. Therefore I told Ehrlichman to have someone investigate the case for us and get the real facts out. "Don't let up on this for a minute," I said. "Just put yourself in their place if something like that happened to us." In fact, our private investigator was unable to turn out anything besides rumors.
Needless to say, the truth was damaging to Richard Nixon, because if it wasn't, he would not have to rely on rumors about Chappaquiddick, for political advantage. The truth is, Nixon feared another Kennedy candidacy and Chappaquiddick was Richard Nixon's failed attempt to assassinate yet another political rival.

Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis were seen in Martha's Vineyard during the weekend that Mary Jo Kopechne died, and it is therefore safe to assume that the intended victim was in fact, Ted Kennedy. Richard Nixon was right, the entire truth was never exposed. If it was, his Watergate burglars would have been charged with murder, for the collateral death of Mary Jo Kopechne.

Hopefully more e-mails like ours will let him know that we the people are not interested in the foolishness the media keeps on about.

He can campaign in his boxers and I'll vote for him.

Why: white, so-called Christian and Repub

Weiner: Jewish Democrat. What he did was something an 8th grader might do and he was really stupid to do it but maybe those goons who want him gone just can't measure up and are just pea green with envy.

I've been using body english for Anthony, when I see media coverage of him. Like watching a bowling tournament.

Because he stood behind us

Progressives live.
Thrive.
Grow.
Without him.

The good news is mom found your keys that you lost last year.