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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:49 AM
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It's very tasteless for Bachmann to brag about having foster children.
Who does that? Don't you usually let someone else laud your charity towards others?

It's similar to bragging about helping the Smiths down the street pay their mortgage. Or giving the Johnson children rides to school every day when they didn't have a vehicle.

Plus, she did receive financial aid to assist her with helping others.

I wonder how the children feel about Bachmann capitalizing on them. Tacky, tacky, tacky.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:50 AM
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1. They will have a warped sense of Americam history when they grow up.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:51 AM
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2. I'd rather see us target her lack of knowledge and abject
craziness than that. I don't think the foster children thing is a winning strategy for us.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:57 AM
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6. Who is this "us" you speak of? j/k
I'm not trying to use this as strategy. It's my opinion on how tasteless it is to tout the people you have helped.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:03 AM
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8. That "us" would be Democrats. You know...like the name
of this forum. Sorry I didn't spell it out.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:07 AM
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9. I was trying to joke around. Obviously I failed.
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:53 AM
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3. the story of her
government handouts needs to be shouted from the rooftops. It doesn't fit her rhetoric at all.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:59 AM
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7. You mean her partaking in socialism? Michelle thy name is hypocrite.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:54 AM
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4. I'm waiting for a few of them to come forward. Some must be adults by now....
...wonder what they'll have to say.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:29 AM
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11. I have no doubt that even if a few of them did come forward
and talked about Michelle Bachmann as a foster mom in glowing terms, there would be some here who would insist that they had been bribed or coached or were in some way delusional.

Because, you know...those people have a vested interest in believing the absolute worst about Ms Bachmann above and beyond her political leanings.

:eyes:

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:42 AM
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16. Wow. You're a Bachmann apologist? Imagine that.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:50 PM
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28. That's pretty funny, actually...
I'm not an apologist for anyone.

I just don't think it's our best interests here for people to be hypocrites.

If some beloved Democrat did what Ms Bachmann has done with foster kids, that person would be a saint here.

Nobody would be calling for that person's grown foster kids to come forward to prove that they weren't abused...or, at the very least, misused.

People yell and screech about double standards when it comes to things like (R) scandals vs (D) scandals. "It's not fair! It's not fair!" they whine.

Then they go on to treat someone they don't like in a different manner than they would treat someone they DO like even if the acts were the same.

It's hypocrisy.

And, you know, it makes all of us look like idiots.

You call it being an apologist.

I call it pointing out hypocrisy so a place I like (DU) doesn't end up looking like a loony bin full of assholes.

whatever.

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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:54 AM
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5. What else has she got? Nothing but her *maternity*
and a whoooooole lot of crazy.
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economistman Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:34 AM
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14. Watched her at the debates. Grossed out by all of them.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:07 AM
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22. I considered watching it for the entertainment value,
but I'm afraid I just don't have the necessary stamina for it. I had a hard time watching the clips later.

Welcome to DU!!! :hi:
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:41 AM
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15. She has developed into a surprisingly
effective public speaker, if you don't listen to what she actually says that is. Evidently persistence can sometimes overcome the "crazy" liability.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:54 AM
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19. Plenty of politicians running for office have shown *persistence*
That and $4.00 will buy a cup of coffee but won't win the office of POTUS.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:04 AM
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21. But it will get them lots of media exposure
which can later translate into speaking fees, book deals, and if they're REALLY lucky, a gig at FOX. The more extreme and right-wing the message, the more publicity. Who needs to "be" president, if you can work less, make more money, and feed your ego just by running for office?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:18 AM
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23. Sure, if she aims to be a Palin wannabe
Considering that Bachmann has publically trashed Palin, clearly she wants to be taken more seriously than to be perceived as a Palinesque famewhore.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:37 AM
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24. Yes, Bachmann is a different animal
Her political ambitions seem to be genuine, which makes her scarier to me. Palin is a self-centered opportunist, always promoting herself. Bachmann is sincerely promoting an agenda and shouldn't be taken too lightly. When she first showed up on the political scene, I thought she was a joke. I'm not so sure anymore. I can't see her getting close to the White House, but I can see her as a potentially dangerous force.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:24 AM
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10. Well I will admit it's much better when people find out good stuff
about us by accident, but really, how many of us here haven't bragged...even once...about something we've done?

People talk about how they give to charity...help the homeless...etc.


Here. At DU.

I think it's only natural for people to self promote and there are VERY few people I've known over the years who kept all their good deeds totally secret.

So if ordinary people brag to some extent, why should it be verboten for politicians? Why should we turn up our noses with disgust?

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:31 AM
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12. The expoitation of one's children in the public eye is awful.
This is something I notice, in politics and in other areas. President and Mrs Obama have done a very good job at keeping their children from being used too much,just enough so they can feel part of the family work. They have handled that better than any politicians I have seen and as good as anyone in the public eye. It is one of the things that I will gladly praise them for, they have been excellent parents in what can only be called a very difficult parenting environment. Barack is a politician, and I know he could see many times when those kids could have made hay for him, which he declined to do, and saw to the making of his own hay. I have immense respect for them in regard to how their children have been presented to the public. It is so very much not an easy thing, and they have excelled.
Bachmann, she's shouting to her right hand what her left hand did. And she is doing so using those children as rhetorical fodder. I do not respect that at all, although the fostering is to lauded, the exploitation of it is not.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:29 PM
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27. There ya go. Good answer.
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:34 AM
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13. Funny how Bachmann "Raised" 23 Foster Children But Was Only a Foster Parent for Little Over 7 Years
What child grows up in 7 years? More lies.

What we know for sure is that welfare queen Michele Bachmann found a convenient way to score some tax-free state money in Minnasota.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:02 AM
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20. you may want to educate yourself on the subject of foster children..
they may be there a week, or they may be with the family for years.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:50 PM
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32. You might want to learn how to spell Minnesota
However you are correct in that she did not raise 23 foster children

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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:46 AM
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17. And it's dumb to fall into the trap of letting her talk about...
...the only thing she's done that she can rightly defend, instead of hammering her on ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE!

I say let this one go. Not because it's tasteless for her to brag (it is), or because I've never taken in a foster child (so what?), but because this is something she can easily score points on.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:47 AM
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18. Tacky imo is much too nice of a moniker for Madame Bachmann
:patriot:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:39 AM
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25. Personally I think her children, natural or fostered, are off limits
We have enough on Bachmann without questioning things she says about her children
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:10 PM
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29. I do too, but I've often wondered what the ages are
of these children, & if they're minors, is she an absent foster mother?

Certainly there are rules/laws that must be followed when children are entrusted in your care. Do they bend the rules for Bachmann?

It could also be the twenty-some children were under her care for a very brief time.
:hi:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:31 PM
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30. I read that most, if not all, were teenaged girls. n/t


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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:52 PM
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33. Generally I would agree with you but
she was the one that brought the subject up three times in the debate to prove she was worthy of being your president.

Are people free to question things when a politician brings up the subject??
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:21 AM
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36. I'm not questioning. I'm stating that IMO it's very tacky for Bachmann to use her foster children
for political leverage.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:41 AM
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26. Now who would be..
unrecommending this...A lot of trolls onboard lately.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:45 PM
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31. In Jewish tradition, the best charity is anonymous. Bragging about ones charitable acts is unseemly.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:05 PM
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34. Humility is a pointless virtue.
I don't understand why people like it so much.
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Oxy Contin Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:38 PM
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35. They get paid, too they don't do it for free
I have poor friends that have lost children due to economic issues and then the state puts them in someone else's home and gives the foster parents all the money they need to care for them. Sometimes it's not fair at all.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:48 AM
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37. I don't think it's as much about charity as it is about being a parent
I actually know a Democrat who was a foster parent- ran for office and talked about it during her campaign. One thing politicians always talk about is their families. The public likes to hear about families and considers parenthood a virtue. She's just playing mommy for the crowd.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:03 AM
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38. I would agree if she included her bio children in the braggadocio.
I don't think she did though.
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