China Wants to Build City South of Boise, Idaho

China Wants To Construct A 50 Square Mile Self-Sustaining City South Of Boise, Idaho

16 June 2011 by Sara Haimowitz.

Thanks to the trillions of dollars that the Chinese have made flooding our shores with cheap products, China is now in a position of tremendous economic power. So what is China going to do with all of that money? One thing that they have decided to do is to buy up pieces of the United States and set up “special economic zones” inside our country from which they can continue to extend their economic domination. One of these “special economic zones” would be just south of Boise, Idaho and the Idaho government is eager to give it to them.

China National Machinery Industry Corporation (Sinomach for short) plans to construct a “technology zone” south of Boise Airport which would ultimately be up to 50 square miles in size. The Chinese Communist Party is the majority owner of Sinomach, so the 10,000 to 30,000 acre “self-sustaining city” that is being planned would essentially belong to the Chinese government. The planned “self-sustaining city” in Idaho would include manufacturing facilities, warehouses, retail centers and large numbers of homes for Chinese workers. Basically it would be a slice of communist China dropped right into the middle of the United States.

According to the Idaho Statesman, the idea would be to build a self-contained city with all services included. It would be modeled after the “special economic zones” that currently exist in China.
Perhaps the most famous of these “special economic zones” is Shenzhen. Back in the 1970s, Shenzhen was just a very small fishing village. Today it is a sprawling metropolis of over 14 million people.
If the Chinese have their way, we will soon be seeing these “special economic zones” pop up all over the United States.

So exactly who is “Sinomach”?
The following description of the company comes directly from the website of Sinomach….
With approval of the State Council, China National Machinery Industry Corporation (SINOMACH) was established in January 1997. SINO-MACH is a large scale, state-owned enterprise group under the supervision of the State Assets Supervision and Administration Commission.

As you can see, Sinomach is basically an arm of the Chinese government.

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http://www.tradereform.org/2011/06/china-wants-to-construct-a-50-square-mile-self-sustaining-city-south-of-boise-idaho/

You can't take a remote countries land. They can always take it back...shy of military action.

Schools can start offering courses in Mandarin, along with Spanish, French, German and Latin.

"..Wu hue ti dao Wu dan shan!!!" (I will kick down Wudan mountain!!) ~Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Or will I still need a cable and harness for that?

Yes, they can really fly!!

prohibiting US companies from competing within a 500 miles radius or some shit.

Look at the Indiana toll roads. They are screwed.

And who would agree to those restrictions. And how long before the "rules" are altered to accommodate the business, economic requirements of the new entity. You can be it won't be long if there is money talking.

What / who is tradereform.org

Their About page says: TradeReform is a blog created and sponsored by the Coalition for a Prosperous America that discusses U.S. trade policy.

Who are Coalition for a Prosperous America?

They claim to be a grassroots organization that warns that free trade is killing American manufacturing. But it seems more like another business-backed group that has close ties to some domestic industries and therefore happens to disagree with the policies of other business-backed groups like the Chamber of Commerce.

http://www.iasworldtrade.com/us/about-us/bios/12-charles-h-blum.html

For more than 35 years as a diplomat, trade negotiator, and Washington consultant, Charles H. Blum has played an innovative role in American trade and competitiveness issues. He brings intellectual rigor, political acumen, and a sound understanding of law and economics to the solution of public policy problems. ...

With the aim of fundamentally reorienting America’s domestic policies, Mr. Blum has taken the lead in the formation of the Coalition for a Prosperous America. The CPA unites domestic farmers, ranchers, workers and manufacturers behind an agenda of fundamental reform of US policy on currency misalignment, taxation, and other key issues impacting international competitiveness. Mr. Blum serves on the board and as executive director of the CPA Education Fund’s Issues Forum. At the same time, he has taken a lead role in the formation of the Domestic Manufacturers Group, an informal caucus of small and medium sized manufacturers within the NAM.

Earlier, Mr. Blum had a 17-year career in the U.S. Government as a diplomat in the State Department and a trade negotiator in the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, rising to the rank of Assistant USTR for Industrial Trade Policy (1983-5) and for Multilateral Negotiations (1985-8). ...

Mr. Blum maintains close relations with a wide range of industry groups and frequently is called upon to address them on public policy issues. In recent years, he has addressed such groups as: American Institute for International Steel; American Iron and Steel Institute; Chain Link Fence Manufacturers Institute; Goldman, Sachs; International Lime Association; Merchants Metals, Inc; Metals Service Center Institute; Michigan Tooling Association; Mississippi Farm Bureau; National Lime Association; National Textile Association; National Council of Textile Organizations; National Tooling and Machining Association; Northeast Ohio Campaign for American Manufacturing; Ohio Manufacturers Association; Society of the Plastics Industry; Specialty Steel Industry of North America; and Steel Manufacturers Association.

http://www.prosperousamerica.org/cpa_advisory_board.html


http://www.prosperousamerica.org/cpa_principles.html


they probably want to protect domestic industries

This is insane. Do you realize all the legal and international ramifications of such an enterprise??To big to fail, in the middle of Boise, ID and other states. Millions of foreign nationals living in our states, in their own independent territories, set off from the rest of the state and the country?? What is the school system they would attend?? CHARTER CHINESE COMMUNIST schools in the US??? What about the state govt responsibility to this new monopolistic entity?? what about taxation of incomes, revenues, sales taxes?? A trade zone?? The implications of that is comparable to the 'TAX FREE TRADE ZONES' in some states: small, govt controlled free trade zones, no where near as extensive as this idea. This kind of enterprise brings in new money, loads of money which will further corrupt our political system and endanger our democracy. CHINESE, no communist, versions of KOCHROACHES AND MURDOGS?? And we complain, no the tea baggers complain about the poor mexicans crossing the border, this is an invasion of money and people who will exercise far more influence over economics and politics in a state. the govt in ID are idiots, but then we have had a wave of that " get rich quick, small govt, no taxes" scheming for the last 30 years. This is not about trade, this is about the our survival as

Please, Do go on! I was reading along and of course am shocked by this topic myself. My big thing with the border had been what other people had warned about, it's not about just Mexicans or people of a certain nationality crossing unheeded over our border, it is MANY people of A NUMBER OF nationalities, not the least of which is the Chinese.

And here they are, no need to even hide it from us now.

Our country--- Is A SINKING SHIP.

And we are on that sinking ship. How many more? How many more 'fiefdoms' are there springing up around us that we haven't even heard about yet?

This is news, allright.

What do you think the international ramifications of Hong Kong, Macao, and other treaty ports was?

They're just giving as good as they got. We are the new "Last Emperor"

practically no regulation must appeal to them. However, having traveled in that country, it's not very populated and a lot of it is BLM land. Is our country selling them federal land that belongs to us? Or is some potato farmer selling his acreage? Because if it's our land or state land that belongs to the people of Idaho, I think somethings not right.

They're famous for their tolerance and and openness to seek out new cultur....sdfjlksnfv
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Knew I couldn't say that without ROFLing!

There used to be a considerable Chinese presence in the greater Boise area around the end of the 19th century. There's a street that runs right through the heart of Garden City (part of the Greater Boise Metro area) named "Chinden", short for the many CHINese garDENs that once populated the area along the river. As competition heated up and resentment grew over lack of jobs, racial attitudes developed, anti-immigrant laws were passed, and the friendly white folks pretty much forced most of the Chinese people out.

It would be ironic if the Chinese repopulated the area and pushed the white folks out. Guess karma sometimes takes awhile.

If it's the former, then fuck that bullshit. If it's the latter, then maybe...I still dunno though.

why is it acceptable if they hire American workers?

Granted, we desperately need jobs but that was the attitude that ushered in the foreign auto manufacturers, the transplants, w/ their
non-union operations

guess it couldn't be too much worse than WallMart but it might be

...when they've got plenty empty ones over there that they're not using now.

http://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-chinese-ghost-cities-2010-12">And Now Presenting: Amazing Satellite Images Of The Ghost Cities Of China

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDeS_mXMnM">China's Ghost Cities (Channel 4 - Youtube)






- K&R

To be sold off piecemeal like a worn-out Buick. :(

in various countries around the world?

There was a piece of something similar in Greece. China has basically established an autonomous, special shipping hub in Greece. Greek labor laws don't apply inside, and the wages are half of what is normal, working conditions are abysmal, and it is all perfectly legal. That is, apparently, our future as well. Keep the unemployment rate high in this country so that China can come in and establish these "special economic zones".

The republicans think that National industrial planning in un-American, and U.S. corporate are just looking for
fast profit not long-range economic transformation.

Right now it is Chinese firms that are investing in Green Technology, Transit-oriented development, and advanced materials.

Obama's feeble efforts and WINNING THE FUTURE have been effectively sabotaged by the Republican congress.

Fake! :)

Think of all the money we could have save on the wall, the Immigration service... All those volunteer border guards could be getting paid as security to make sure no one escapes the off shored Mexican prison factory town....

here's one in CA:

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/swcounty/article_6d923a34-8067-5174-878a-8988ac747307.html


not only is this environmentally destructive, but it's the glorifcation of banana boatism

This guy could write a book claiming that Obama is a robot, that Hillary and Biden are the same person, and some people would believe him.

:rofl:

It is funny how some DUers reflexively believe ANYTHING that promotes the "China is evil" meme, even when it is drivel cooked up in the minds of right wing conspiracy theorists.

"According to Dr. Jerome Corsi (in an article posted on World Net Daily), the U.S. government has already set up 257 “foreign trade zones” across America. These “foreign trade zones” will apparently be given “special U.S. customs treatment” and will be used to promote global free trade….

“The FTZs tend to be located near airports, with easy access into the continental NAFTA and WTO multi-modal transportation systems being created to move free-trade goods cheaply, quickly and efficiently throughout the continent of North America.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi

Jerome Robert Corsi is an American author, political commentator and conspiracy theorist best-known for his two New York Times bestselling books: The Obama Nation and Unfit for Command (with co-author John O'Neill). Both books, the former written in 2008 and the latter in 2004, attacked Democratic presidential candidates and were criticized for including numerous inaccuracies.

In other books and columns for conservative websites such as WorldNetDaily and Human Events, Corsi has discussed topics that are considered conspiracy theories in some circles, such as the alleged plans for a North American Government, the theory that President Barack Obama is not an American citizen; criticism of the United States government for allegedly covering up information about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, promoting the Abiogenic hypothesis of the origin of oil (arguing that oil is produced from chemical reactions in the Earth, in contrast to the general consensus of the scientific community that oil is produced from organic materials, such as zooplankton and algae), and alleged United States support of Iran in its attempts to develop nuclear weapons.
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http://endoftheamericandream.com/ is the site that is the source of the story. It is apparently a collapse-of-civilization promoter hawking freeze-dried foods and emergency water contraptions.

Project 60 does really exist in Idaho, but there's no indication (other than at right wing websites) that it is anything unusual. Here's the link to the project's website. http://www.project60.idaho.gov/message.html

no; now Brazilian workers are protesting the lousy conditions in these zones

more about China's activities here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Economic_Zone

China

Currently, the most prominent SEZs in the country are Shenzhen, Xiamen, Shantou, and Zhuhai. It is notable that Shenzhen, Shantou, and Zhuhai are all in Guangdong province, and all are on the southern coast of China where sea is very accessible for transportation of goods.

And if this proposed Chinese zone in Idaho is anything like you are making it out to be, please post a link to a progressive website that has credible information. Progressive investigative journalists would be all over this, if it has a shred of truth. Jim Corsi and the World Net Daily do not qualify as credible sources of information on anything.

http://commerce.idaho.gov/news/2010/12/chinese-company-...


"Sinomach officials met with Boise city and airport officials — including Mayor Dave Bieter — to discuss developing a first phase for the technology zone that would set up a base of operations for Chinese companies doing business in the United States"

Nowhere does is say that the industrial park is going to be anything other than the kind of industrial park that most cities, counties and countries have in innumerable quantities. Nowhere does it indicate that China will have any sovereignty over the park or only hire Chinese workers or anything else that would fit into a standard Jim Corsi conspiracy theory.

"Yet some experts say the partnership has devolved into a classic neo-colonial relationship in which China has the upper hand. Nearly 84 percent of Brazil’s exports to China last year were raw materials, up from 68 percent in 2000. But about 98 percent of China’s exports to Brazil are manufactured products — including the latest, low-priced cars for Brazil’s emerging middle class — that are beating down Brazil’s industrial sector.

“The relationship has been very unbalanced,” said Rubens Ricupero, a former Brazilian diplomat and finance minister. “There has been a clear lack of strategy on the Brazilian side.” "

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/27/world/americas/27brazil.html?scp=1&sq=china%20in%20brazil&st=cse

more about China's acquisitions, here:

".....Then along came the Great Recession. Since 2008, Western firms have, for the most part, been reluctant to make major investments in foreign oil ventures, fearing a prolonged downturn in global sales. The Chinese companies, however, only accelerated their buying efforts. They were urged on by senior government officials, who saw the moment as perfect for acquiring crucial valuable resources for a potentially energy-starved future at bargain-basement prices.

"The international financial crisis...is equally a challenge and an opportunity," insisted Zhang Guobao, head of the National Energy Administration, at the beginning of 2009. "The slowdown...has reduced the price of international energy resources and assets and favors our search for overseas resources."

As a policy matter, the Chinese government has worked hard to facilitate the accelerating rush to control foreign energy resources. Among other things, it has provided low-interest, long-term loans to major Chinese resource firms in the hunt for foreign properties, as well as to foreign governments willing to allow Chinese companies to participate in the exploitation of their natural resources. In 2009, for example, the China Development Bank (CDB) agreed to lend CNPC $30 billion over a five-year period to support its efforts to acquire assets abroad. Similarly, CBD has loaned $10 billion to Petrobras, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, to develop deep offshore fields in return for a promise to supply China with up to 160,000 barrels of Brazilian crude per day.

Prodded in this fashion and backed with endless streams of cash, CNPC and the other giant Chinese firms have gone on a global binge, acquiring resource assets of every imaginable type in staggering profusion in Central Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Latin America. A very partial list of some of the more important recent deals would include:

§ In April 2009, CNPC formed a joint venture with Kazmunaigas, the state oil company of the energy-rich Central Asian state of Kazakhistan, to purchase a Kazakh energy firm, JSC Mangistaumunaigas (MMG), for $3.3 billion. This was just the latest of a series of deals giving China control over about one-quarter of Kazakhstan's growing oil output. A $5 billion loan-for-oil offer from China's Export-Import Bank made this latest deal possible.

§ In October 2009, a consortium led by CNPC and the oil heavyweight BP won a contract to develop the Rumaila oil field in Iraq, potentially one of the world's biggest oil reservoirs in a country with the third-largest reserves on the planet. Under this agreement, the consortium will invest $15 billion to boost Rumaila's daily yield from 1.1 to 2.8 million barrels, doubling Iraq's net output. CNPC holds a 37 percent share in the consortium; BP, 38 percent; and the Iraqi government, the remaining 25 percent. If the consortium succeeds, China will have access to one of the world's most promising future sources of petroleum and a base for further participation in Iraq's underdeveloped oil industry.

§ In November 2009, Sinopec teamed up with Ecuador's state-owned Petroecuador in a 40:60 joint venture (with Petroecuador holding the larger share) to develop two oil fields in Ecuador's eastern Pastaza Province. Sinopec is already a major producer in Ecuador, having joined with CNPC to acquire the Ecuadorian energy assets of Canada's EnCana Corporation in 2005 for $1.4 billion.

§ In December 2009, CNPC acquired a share of the Boyaca 3 oil block in the Orinoco Belt, a large deposit of extra-heavy oil in eastern Venezuela. In that month, CNOOC formed a joint venture with the state-owned company Petróleos de Venezuela SA to develop the Junin 8 block in the same region. These moves are seen as part of a strategic effort by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez to increase his country's oil exports to China and reduce its reliance on sales to the US market.

§ That same December, CNPC signed an agreement with the government of Myanmar (Burma) to build and operate an oil pipeline that will run from Maday Island in the western part of that country to Ruili, in the southwestern Chinese province of Yunnan. The 460-mile pipeline will permit China-bound tankers from Africa and the Middle East to unload their cargo in Myanmar on the Indian Ocean, thereby avoiding the long voyage to China's eastern coast via the Strait of Malacca and the South China Sea, areas significantly dominated by the US Navy.

§ In March 2010, CNOOC International announced plans to buy 50 percent of Bridas Corp., a private Argentinean energy firm with oil and gas operations in Argentina, Bolivia, and Chile. CNOOC will pay $3.1 billion for its share of Bridas, which is owned by the family of Argentinean magnate Carlos Bulgheroni.

§ In March, PetroChina joined oil major Shell to acquire Arrow Energy, a major Australian supplier of natural gas derived from coal-bed methane. The two companies are paying about $1.6 billion each and will form a 50:50 joint venture to operate Arrow's holdings.

And that's only in the energy field. Chinese mining and metals firms have been scouring the world for promising reserves of iron, copper, bauxite and other key industrial minerals. In March, for example, Aluminum Corporation of China, or Chinalco, acquired a 44.65 percent stake in the Simandou iron-ore project in the African country of Guinea. Chinalco will pay Anglo-Australian mining giant Rio Tinto Ltd. $1.35 billion for this share. Keep in mind that Chinalco already owns a 9.3 percent stake in Rio Tinto, and has been prevented from acquiring a larger share mainly thanks to Australian fears that China is absorbing too much of the country's energy and minerals industries."

http://www.thenation.com/article/chinas-global-shopping-spree

"Chinese companies' direct investment in Brazil jumped to $17 billion last year, nearly 60 times the investment the previous year, according to SOBEET, a Brazilian economic think tank. At the same time, more Chinese companies are hiring local workers rather than following their old practices of bringing in Chinese laborers.

That new reality has meant frequent contact between two cultures that hold vastly different expectations about the role of workers, government regulations and unions.

Brazilians enjoy some of the most labor-friendly protections in the world, with guarantees such as one-month annual bonuses and stipends for meals and transportation.

China, on the other hand, has quickly become the world's second-biggest economy on the strength of a low-paid work force and, in practice, virtually nonexistent labor protections, according to the U.S.-based nonprofit Global Institute for Labor & Human Rights. Brazil's strong independent labor movement also clashes with a centralized Chinese system of company unions without collective bargaining power.

"You're looking at a whole different model of how society operates," said Charles Kernaghan, the institute's director. "That means no rights to organize, virtually no labor protections.""

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43204517

actually, some DUers reflexively believe ANYTHING. Period.

...we'll find a capitalist to sell us the rope." - Vladimir Lenin.

So, a red state is eager to get Redder.

I always knew there was a reason why Idaho had a town named Moscow.

:kick:

PB

Let me guess, they're stopping at the bohemian grove on the way, to pick up the supplies for their satan worshipping one world government.

Except it's not down around San Antone :silly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCyO9MpGUM

edit to fix link

Just because a Chinese company (or even a Chinese governmental branch) buys property here does not change the sovereign control of the land...geez! The could buy every speck of land in the U.S. and it is still the U.S. The only real exceptions are embassies, reservations, and other land grants specified by congress and/or treaty. If the Chinese build a factory here, they must follow U.S. law, they don't have carte blanche to import Chinese nationals, ignore polution rules, or anything like that.
Just like the foreign-owned car companies--workers are free to unionize under U.S. law, but probably won't because just like U.S. investors, they seek to build plants (when they build in the US at all) in non-labor-friendly locales. For anyone confused, an Apple plant in China is NOT part of America, and a Chinese factory here won't be part of China.

Truth is becoming stranger than (cyberpunk) fiction.

they can't write laws here, they can't ignore our laws and they can't bring in large numbers of their citizens to work these factories.

It's like any company coming here and building a factory town.

to overcome corporate influence.