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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:08 AM
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Feingold Criticizes Democrats for Forming Super PACs
http://www.rollcall.com/news/feingold_criticizes_democrats_forming_super_pacs-206583-1.html

Ex-Sen. Russ Feingold on Thursday night sharply criticized Democrats for forming “super” political action committees that can take unlimited corporate cash, flatly calling the entities “wrong.”

“I empathize with the desire to fight fire with fire, but Democrats should just never be in the business of taking unlimited corporate contributions,” Feingold told the audience of liberal activists and bloggers gathered here for the Netroots Nation convention, eliciting cheers. “It’s dancing with the devil, and it’s a game that we will never win.”

The Wisconsin Democrat specifically went after Priorities USA, a Democratic Super PAC run by two former White House aides, Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney. The group already has been active in the 2012 presidential race, and several other Democratic groups have formed to mimic the massive campaign spending deployed by GOP groups such as American Crossroads in 2010.

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“I know people want to win. ... I like to win too,” Feingold added. “People will see us as weak and unprincipled. They will see us as corporate lite. Our strength is people power. We can raise that money from small contributions, and we can win without selling our soul.”
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:13 AM
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1. Feingold/Sanders 2012 please!
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:20 AM
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2. Yes, it has to be able to be won without selling your soul.
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 01:23 AM by RandomThoughts
Or there is no point anyways.

Hence why I will not, nor have ever, made any deals.

Although in honesty, the 'deal' is a form of delusion, deals don't really exist. I know that becuase things have tried to trick me into thinking I made some form of deal, then when I help those bullets get free, some others will come along and try to make me think I made some other deal completely different. That contradiction shows the deal is a delusion trick.

The point is there are no deals, only delusions of deals. Although when you realize there is no deal, if you think you 'have to be some way' or are 'in some deal' if you are in a hierarchy, many times things will be sent at you to try and break you.

Don't let them break you, think and feel, and stick with what your heart mind and soul tells you is best from thought and feeling, and just be nice to them, but don't do what they try to get you to think you have to do, then they turn, and get better and leave by my experiences. Sometimes it feels like walking through dense air, to go against something trying to push you some way. Or you have to focus, and make sure you are the 'captain' of your ship.

Then they actually help you later after growing and after freed. Although sometimes you have to track back and remove the thing trying to oppress them.

Although that is just my experience, and it might be a perspective thing, since nobody knows for sure.

But even if wrong, it still makes sense, no reason to be mean to anything, and also, no reason to do something you think is wrong, or not do something you think should be done.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:23 AM
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3. Is this the "former" Senator from Wisconsin?
"We can raise that money from small contributions, and we can win without selling our soul.”" :shrug:

I'm not crazy about PAC money either, but let's be realistic Russ...YOU LOST, and tons of money was spent to ensure your loss. Either Russ' message, and/or the lack of money had to play some role in his loss.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:27 AM
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4. Better to lose an election than lose your soul. He can run
again now, if he wishes to, and will defenitely have good chance of winning, with his soul intact.

He is 100% correct. We now have two corporate owned parties. No wonder so many people don't bother to vote.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 06:07 AM
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7. +1
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:46 AM
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6. Tarheel..... Here is what Ron Johnson did...


There were people who speculated during the 2010 US Senate campaign in Wisconsin that Republican Ron Johnson really didn't have the kind of liquid asserts that would allow him to spend the $5-million to $10-million of his own money he talked about.

Well, he spent $8.7-million. And now we know how. He drained $10-million from his Oshkosh plastics company , Pacur, in 2010.

That's a little more than the $650,000 in income he reported for the previous year, but Johnson told WisPolitics.com that it was "deferred compensation."

WisPolitics, in its report to subscribers, says:

Johnson said he hadn’t paid himself a salary since buying the business in 1997 and the $10 million was a deferred compensation payout that he did after his November victory. He said the move was not related to his self-financing of his campaign.
Oh, OK, that's for clariftying that RoJo. We believe you. And now we'll just climb back on the turnip truck you must think we just fell off of.

http://uppitywis.org/blogarticle/rojo-spends-87m-campaign-pays-self-10m-says-thats-just-coinciden

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:03 AM
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5. I usually agree with Feingold, but not here. I'm not in favor of unilateral disarmament.
The use of unlimited PAC money may be wrong, but it's also currently the law of the land, and I see no reason to arbitrarily give the Republicans an extra advantage when we don't need to. The only way that unlimited money is going away is via the election and maintenance of Democrats in office.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:58 AM
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8. I see no need to "turn the other cheek" to Karl Rove's American Crossroads either
If their are big liberal donors, so be it.

We are going to see nothing but LIES from Rove's group.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:00 AM
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9. Until there is election reform,and it can't come soon enough,
the Democrats are going to have to match the GOP spending , if not we'll see republican majorities in both houses and a GOP president.
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