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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:29 PM
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Why women make better cops, docs, and world leaders
or so says a new book by Dan Abrams. The book claims that women pay closer attention to details than men do.

What's funny are the comments posted beneath the article. Although the book's written by a man, the article describing the book is written by a woman. And loads of angry men are attacking the female journalist. Probably because these men DON'T pay attention to details and think it's a woman making the assertions.

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/06/16/why-women-make-better-cops-doctors-and-world-leaders/
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Doctor Hurt Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:31 PM
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1. meh
The book was written to make people mad, and it's accomplished that.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:35 PM
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2. Some women do, some women don't.
Personally, I'll take Obama over Palin for a world leader anyday, despite the latter's apparently obvious superiority by virtue of reproductive plumbing. :eyes:

Dan Abrams - you are dissapoint. The self-hating-man schtick is pathetic.

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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:36 PM
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3. What do you expect.
A women wrote the book - no wonder that's what she thinks.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:38 PM
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5. ha ha. you are funny, dawg. nt
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:39 PM
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7. Aw, I was waiting for someone to jump all over me!
Then I was going to say, "Like shooting fish in a barrel".
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:54 PM
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11. You almost got me!
good one.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:38 PM
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4. Women do make better doctors because they are more empathic.
They do listen better. It has been my experience that male doctors treat you more like a auto mechanic would your car.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:59 PM
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12. myth. women are more empathitic.
All that said, research has shown that men and women do not differ consistently in their ability to detect their own or other people’s emotions. Since accurate detection of emotions is a first step toward feeling empathy, this finding suggests men and women at least start out biologically equal. Supporting this idea is a 1993 study from the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, which found that infant boys rated just as highly as infant girls in their sensitivity and attention to other people.

So while some research suggests women are more empathic than men, perhaps this is the only definitive conclusion we can draw: Almost all humans, regardless of sex, have the basic ability to cultivate empathy.

http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/women_more_empathic_than_men/

had read a particular australian woman scientist saying once studies were put in place where empathy was not known to person in study and more controls in place, men equaled women in empathy.

in past men answered the empathy question how there gender role told them to answer, as did women
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:21 PM
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18. The one I fired was NOT a good listener. She attended only to things she was interested in treating.
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 02:21 PM by slackmaster
She also did not approach medicine as a science, which is essential for making proper diagnoses and determining appropriate treatments.

She was bad news for me.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:38 PM
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6. Dan gets it, but not like you mean.
From the book reviews at amazon;

"I've always liked Dan Abrams. And now that he's charmingly admitted what we all knew anyway, I like him even more!"
-Liz Smith


Some parody writes itself. Nothing sells more books than a man writing about how dumb men are. His banker rejoices.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:42 PM
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8. women make better sweatshop workers
because you can pay them less, and they have slender hands, and they're hardier than men.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:43 PM
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9. Men make better lesbians....
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:48 PM
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10. Women also make better dinner ... I find.
:hide:

Ok, I had to do that. You can't just throw that slow hanging curve ball, and not expect some one to hit it into the cheap seats.

I now renounce and reject myself.

And I'd resign if I held a position in which any of this mattered.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:02 PM
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13. hubby has always kicked my ass in cooking. BUT 5 yrs ago, we got the really expensive
good knives, and truly, has allowed me to be more comfortable and explorative in cooking. i am getting almost good. has been a joke in this house. but a good knife matters. before i didnt cook anything i had to cut.

and spices. hubby actually taste the spices and can figure out what needs to go in.

i swoon
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:16 PM
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16. Part of why I posted that ...
I do most of the cooking for us. My wife works about 35 minutes away. I often work from home.

So I actually do most of the cooking, by necessity.

I can cut veggies while on a conference call. Brown some meat to go with spaghetti the same way.

I use the slow cooker.

I enjoy the threads in which gender roles are tossed about.

Rather than talk about how men or women are "better" at something, they should discuss attributes that make anyone successful in a particular arena.

Ultimately, being good at something should not be gender based.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:40 PM
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26.  enjoy the threads in which gender roles are tossed about.
me, too.

and i agree with you....
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:03 PM
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14. OK then, Dan Abrams, explain Sarah Palin.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:15 PM
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15. I fired my female doctor two weeks ago, and switched to a male as my primary care doc.
Her skill set was not appropriate for my age, my gender, or health issues.

She was focused exclusively on issues related to diet and nutrition, but did not give comprehensive advice. She counseled me to avoid milk products and meats, but not to make up for the lost calcium or vitamin D by taking supplements.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:22 PM
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19. Just fired mine too.
3 of the last 4 of my female doctors were outstanding.

Last wife was a cop, possibly the worse cop and wife in the world.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:26 PM
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23. You don't need calcium supplements & vitamin d supplements if you don't
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 02:29 PM by Liquorice
eat dairy or meat and get enough sun. Your (ex) doctor was right. Diet and nutrition is where doctors should focus more of their attention, even if their patients don't like to be told to eat healthier. Sounds like you had a good doctor before you fired her.

*Edited for clarity.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:02 PM
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28. My endocrinologist disagrees with you
Where did you get your MD?

Sounds like you had a good doctor before you fired her.

She made a series of glaring technical errors, such as failing to follow up on test results. I wrote a detailed negative review of her and posted it on Angie's List and other sites.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:18 PM
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17. I don't like gender-essentialist crap even when it seems to be positive towards women.
Saying Black people are better dancers is complimentary. Saying gay men have a talent for decorating and fashion is complimentary. It's still a fucking stereotype.

Individuals in certain groups vary as much within the group as groups do from each other. Myths stating otherwise aren't good for anybody in the long run.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:24 PM
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20. So the men proved the author's point. LOL nt
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:51 PM
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27. Yeah, that was the hilarious part!
The guys who were most outraged by the charge that they don't pay attention to details ... are the very men who clearly don't pay attention to details.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:25 PM
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21. Because they're soft and they smell good. (n/t)
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:25 PM
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22. they make better prison guards too!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:26 PM
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24. Margaret Thatcher? Sarah Palin? Queen Victoria? Mary Tudor? The mind reels.
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aaaaaa5a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:35 PM
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25. What kind of press and feedback on DU would a book with the title


"Why men make better cops, docs and world leaders", receive?

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