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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:10 PM
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How TFA gets a public school foothold while layoffs of teachers go on. Durham and Seattle.
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 02:34 PM by madfloridian
TFA is not only getting more power in public school systems, it is finding its way into colleges and universities now. Seattle is an example given below.

Teach for America may have started out as a good idea...a way to provide extra help for inner city schools and the needs of the children there. But like charter schools which originally were touted by education union leaders as a special help school for those who needed it....goals become changed and twisted when corporations enter the picture. A column from the University of Oklahoma's independent student newspaper points out the problem:

Those who are thinking of participating in Teach for America with a social justice mission in mind should consider this. Although a far more daunting task for sure, those really interested in social justice should consider ways of solving problems like unavoidable unemployment and low-wage jobs.

On top of failing to make a dent in poverty, Teach for America actually detracts from social justice by hurting real teachers. Teach for America students take low, entrance-level pay while also receiving a government subsidy for their salary in the form of Americorps stipends. Schools lay off teachers and then hire Teach for America teachers to fill positions that real teachers would otherwise be filling. Teach for America teachers are undercutting the wage needs of real teachers and causing them to be laid off as a result.

Imagine this: a well-off college student takes a subsidized teaching position at an impossibly low wage and displaces actual teachers who might already be struggling to get by — all for social justice! For anyone who has any concern for labor rights, this is extremely abusive. Not undercutting wage demands of often unionized workers is rule number one of how to be a serious social justice advocate.

In sum, Teach for America is not nearly as good of an idea as it first sounds. It has a limited effect on the poor students it reaches, does nothing to solve systemic problem which cause the poverty it is trying to combat and causes the unemployment of real teachers who might need a job. If you choose to do Teach for America, do it to build your resume, not out of a concern for social justice.


Here is an article about how Teach for America graduates, with 5 weeks' training, can gain a foothold in a school system. There is help from the administrators in that district. There are people in place in many school districts who are willing to pay the 2 to 3 thousand dollars to recruit these TFA trainees. And there are companies willing to provide the price of their recruitment, 2 to 3 thousand dollars.

Just think, teachers can be hired locally for free and with full degrees.

From the Herald Sun, Durham, NC:

DPS may get Teach for America help

While the budget picture looks no more pleasant than it has in past years, Assistant Superintendent for Human Resources Jacqueline Ellis said the A.J. Fletcher Foundation, a Raleigh-based nonprofit, has offered to cover the $3,000-per-teacher placement fee that TFA would have charged the district for the 15 teachers.

The positions that TFA teachers would fill are among 21 made available by retirements, resignations and transfers.


I doubt all the transfers were voluntary, and early retirement is up greatly because of fears by teachers of what is coming their way.

The 15 teachers primarily would be placed in math, science and exceptional children's classes -- all of which can be difficult to fill, especially in a low-performing school like Neal. TFA would also like to offer training to traditionally trained teachers who are already at the school.


That is disturbing to me that they would make it sound like there are not enough teachers of the traditional type to fill those positions. It is simply not true. I do not like the way they refer to "traditionally trained" teachers needing TFA training. That is positively nervy.

I was a "traditionally trained" teacher in a low-performing school. The teachers there loved the kids, and we did our best. We were "trained" quite well, thank you. All of us had "training" far beyond what TFA grads have. We did not need college grads with 5 weeks' training in teaching coming in to "retrain" us or whatever they call it. It's insulting.

More. I find this paragraph insensitive and ignorant about the abilities of teachers already in the system.

A big piece of Neal's program would be the training for veteran teachers - it's all about changing the mind-set of teachers to believe that every student can succeed, Lakis said. He said TFA is still working out the framework for the training program.


Again...do you see that? They are planning on bringing in TFA recruits with 5 weeks' training to tell experienced teachers how to teach and think.

That is a very ugly talking point being tossed around by the reformers...that teachers do not believe every student can succeed. It's dangerous, but unfortunately it's working.

Also interesting is how a university dean in Seattle is planning a dual level training program. I doubt those struggling to get masters' degrees will be feeling much love toward the TFAers spending 5 weeks.

Teach for America in Seattle..Tracing the big push from a University of Washington dean

Into the TFA fray comes Tom Stritikus, the dean of the University of Washington's College of Education and a former TFAer himself, with the creation of a partnership between the college and TFA for the recruits to earn their teaching certificate.


A timeline of this partnership is shown, and the way it ends up is shown in emails from May 18.

May 18: The dean calls a meeting with College of Education students and faculty. In the meeting announcement he stated, "I want to assure you that this new partnership will not result in a reduction in the commitment of the college to prove our current and future MIT students with a high-quality, cutting edge teacher education program." He also told his grad students that creating the TFA program had been "a goal" of his for a long time.

Consider this: You are enrolled in what is considered a top college of education in the nation. It is a rigorous master's program where you take a year of courses and a year of in-school teaching. It could take longer than two years and, of course, it's going to cost you thousands of dollars. You learn that the dean has set up a partnership with a group that "trains" recruits for five weeks and then sets them loose in their own classrooms. It seems at odds with your program and you wonder what is going on.


But wait, it gets better.

At the meeting, Stritikus said that he would pick one of his own UW-trained grads over a TFA-trained recruit. He further said that his own grads had a "moral obligation" to help students in TFA classrooms because TFA teachers aren’t as well-trained as UW College of Education grads.


He admits the TFA teachers aren't as well-trained, but the district is using them to replace veteran teachers and those who were transferred.

Huffington Post's Sue Peters tells more about the reaction to this program from the students in Dean Tom Stritikus' master's program:

Seattle's Education Reform Hypocrisy

How could anyone find this double-standard even remotely fair? It isn't. Furthermore, how can Stritikus, a TFA alum and loyal supporter of the enterprise, not show favoritism towards the TFA-ers? So there's a potential conflict of interest problem as well.

This hypocrisy was highlighted at a tense and emotional meeting last week between Dean Stritikus and his M.A. students, which was covered by the local news. Understandably, Stritikus' current students had a lot of questions.

Why is Stritikus and U.W. bending over backward to accommodate TFA? Here are a couple of clues. Stritikus himself is a TFA alum with very little primary and secondary teaching experience. So he comes into the equation with a potential bias and perhaps limited understanding of the true demands of the field. He became dean only last September, coincidentally right before Seattle's school superintendent introduced a proposal to bring Teach for America to Seattle. Then-Superintendent Maria Goodloe-Johnson was trained by the pro-privatizing Broad Foundation which has vowed to help institutionalize Teach for America in the nation's public schools system, and until recently, was a member of its board of directors -- alongside Wendy Kopp, CEO of TFA.


It's amazing how easy it is when you don't have to answer to those whom you are serving.

The education majors there are not happy. They called a meeting with the Dean of Education. Here is the video.

UW education majors speak out against 'fast-track' teaching group

Students at the University of Washington are concerned about the school's relationship with "Teach for America," so they arranged a meeting with the Dean of Education. Right now, Ed majors have to complete a year of student teaching before they can head up a classroom of their own. But a new partnership puts "Teach for America" students on the fast track. Many UW students feel they're the ones being left behind. KING 5's Meg Coyle reports.


Sue Peters at Huff Post goes on to report that "More recently, a trove of hundreds of documents and e-mails between Stritikus and Teach for America has emerged, revealed by the public disclosure requests of two parent activists, one a local education blogger, the other the public schools parent of a child with special needs, one of the categories of children TFA plans to focus on in Seattle."

She states that these reveal that Stritikus had plans, dating back from at least since his appointment last fall, to ease the way for the introduction of TFA to Seattle using his new position at U.W. to do so.

Both President Obama and Arne Duncan are supportive of TFA. In fact Arne Duncan spoke at TFA's 20th anniversary. The words of Arne were covered by Gary Rubenstein at his TFA blog. It is quite interesting. It shows how the reformers have gotten the politicians to twist the truth to the point of lies. The article is called Same Kids, Same Building, Same Lies

Pretty amazing and convincing that all we need is harder working teachers to overcome poverty and turn failing schools into wildly successful ones. Unfortunately, it’s a lie. This is what happens: Charters exaggerate (lie) about their stats then the stats get used to convince politicians and billionaires to change public policy. The fact that Duncan is using this story shows that this farce goes all the way to the top. Surely Obama believes this story.

When I heard it, it sounded pretty far fetched. So I did a little bit of Diane Ravitch style investigative reporting to get to the truth behind that facade.

According to this article, it was not the ‘same children’ attending Urban Prep as would have attended Englewood High School. They had the typical lottery which excludes certain families. It also had a mandatory three week program for students who got accepted, which eliminated even more students. And then, they did the typical ‘weeding out’ of kids who weren’t performing. Also, how could it be, literally, the ‘same children’ if Urban Prep is all-male while Englewood High was co-ed?


So really it's a matter of getting your players in positions of power and getting the media on board with you. Leaders of both parties are supportive, so there will be no opposing voices.

Then all you have to watch out for are a handful of bloggers pointing out the reality of what is going on.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:30 PM
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1. First I had heard about wanting TFA grads to "train" real teachers.
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 02:38 PM by madfloridian
And I do call those of us who teach/taught with real credentials real teachers. The nerve of saying that they want TFA grads with 5 weeks training teaching us.. it is pathetic.

And Arne and the rest of the party leaders who went along with the untruths he told at the TFA reunion owe "real" teachers an apology and soon.

http://garyrubinstein.teachforus.org/2011/03/06/same-kids-same-building-same-lies/

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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:14 PM
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5. You know, mad,
I'm not holding my breath. We've all heard the parable about wolves in sheep's clothing. There is NO WAY I can believe that Mr. Obama is not fully aware of, and complicit in, the current devastating assault on public education.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:21 PM
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6. I'm not holding my breath either.
:-(
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onpatrol98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 07:05 PM
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14. I agree
I think the President owes teachers an apology for picking Arne in the first place. He was a crony pick. His credentials are lacking. His teaching background...none. To me, he has no right to the position he holds. Unlike many, I felt like appointing Arne was the first big slap to teachers. It was his way of saying, I do not respect your training, your experience, etc. I am hoping he corrects this misstep. Appointing his basketball buddy was an insult in my personal opinion. His appointment in Chicago was also a joke by Daley.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:02 PM
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2. School's out for this year
(I just got home and have to do some clean-up on Monday), but I dare any TFA clown to try and "save" my middle school science class. I'll bring the bbq sauce and we'll have an open-pit roast. Five weeks' training, huh? It's just more corporate greed. The CoE students are right; they ARE being left behind and better wake up to smell the injustice. It's comin' and will not stop until ALL education is a privilege and no longer a right. The plantations are going to need staffin'.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:46 PM
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3. In Kansas City too
87 experienced teachers were fired. They are being replaced with TFA.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:58 PM
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4. So sad to me. It's an out of control takeover of education with our party's blessing.
It infuriates me.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:36 PM
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7. Hmph!
They're going to have to watch out for a lot more than 'a handful of bloggers' come this October, mad. Many progressives plan to encamp at Freedom Plaza until we stop these corporate megalomaniacs who've infested our media, our politics, and our global economy. I think students like the ones in the video you linked will be the activists of their generation, and I remain hopeful that in my last years on this planet, I'll see our species transition into a more egalitarian economic paradigm.

I think Arne and his ilk are going to find that blowback's a major pain in their collective arses.

(Please do let me know if you plan to be in Freedom Plaza in October. I'd sure like to meet you, and express in person my eternal gratitude and admiration.)
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:40 PM
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8. Thank you for this. K&R n/t
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:53 PM
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9. Somebody less qualified is undercutting your wages and affecting your ability to make a living?
Where have I heard that before?
Oh yeah, that's right - I'm a blue collar worker and it was me.
How did that work out for me? Did teachers stand shoulder to shoulder with their working class neighbors? Or did they scold them and call them names?

Support for illegal immigration isn't going to win you many friends among the hard-hat crowd.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 06:01 PM
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10. That is a hateful post. What has this got to do with illegal immigration?
I am not sure who you are angry with, but I am not your enemy.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 06:19 PM
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12. Illegal immigration, H1B's and TFA all do the same thing.
We 'lesser than' construction workers took the hit in the shorts first, then the H1B's really got ramped up and now (much as I predicted in long since deleted posts) they are coming for you.

"We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Ben Franklin

Or I could simply repeat what I was told: "They aren't hurting anybody".

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 07:00 PM
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13. You are gloating because they are coming after teachers.
There's a lot of that here at DU now.

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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 06:17 PM
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11. What?!?!
I think you misclicked and posted a response on the wrong thread. That, or you're three sheets to the wind, stoned to the bone, or delusional.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 08:46 PM
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15. Don't sound like a union member to me.
Edited on Fri Jun-17-11 08:48 PM by Jakes Progress
Learn the meaning of solidarity.

The answer is, Yes. Evan as a teacher in a non-teacher union state, I stood with the unions when it came to any action to protect workers. Even when scabs from that field cheered as teachers got fired, I stood with the union.

Now when non-union workers glomed onto the jobs and salaries and benefits that union members had fought for, I wasn't so supportive. As more and more non-union workers decided that paying dues, striking, and going to all that meeting shit was cutting into their beer time, the companies found it easier and easier to push out the unions.

So, mr. blue collar worker. What field and what union do you belong to?
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:23 PM
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19. The teachers' unions stood with your unions.
We teachers stood with you, and we still do. Remember, your kids are our students, and we see what's going on and hate it as much as you do.

I don't know where you live, but I know that, here in Michigan, the teachers were screaming about all the NAFTA crap and everything that has destroyed our manufacturing center as much as it has. We deal with illegal immigration every day (hint: they're our students), and we face immigration for our jobs (big districts are looking at bringing in teachers from India and have for almost 15 years).

We are not your enemy.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:53 PM
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22. i wish everyone would blame the real culprit: the corporations doing the hiring
workers tend to blame other categories of workers instead of blaming the true villain; and corporations use this to their advantage; this is why unions now realize the best tack is to accept that undocumented workers are here to stay and try to bring them into the union

all of those who are on the side opposing corporations (or owners or bosses) will sink or rise, together; if workers fight one another, they all lose

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:59 PM
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24. This is the result of a teaching system that is nothing more than a business.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 12:05 AM
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25. Yes we stood with you. We stand with you all the time.
I've walked more picket lines that I can count in support of union members in all kinds of professions.

One of my favorite stories involves a local grocery strike. It was my spring break so I headed up to my local grocery store and joined the picket line. I spent an entire week in front of that store with those workers. About the third day when I arrived, the store manager came out and took my picture. Then he walked over to my car and wrote down the license plate number. The next day, he came out of the store and came over to the picket line and asked me for my name. I told him, he wrote it down and said "I have your picture too. You'll never work in another grocery store in THIS town!" I replied "Not a problem" and laughed. The guy turned to walk back in the store and one of the workers I was picketing with yelled at him "You idiot! She's a TEACHER!" The manager stopped, turned around and said "It's a school day! Why isn't she teaching?" So I told him I was on spring break. And I added that I USED TO BE a regular shopper at his store but I wouldn't be shopping there anymore. He huffed back in the store.

Next day, a man dressed in a suit came out to talk to me as soon as I arrived at the picket line. He handed me his card, told me he was a regional manager and he wanted to apologize for the way the store manager had talked to me the day before. He said he hoped I would come back to the store once the strike was settled and he gave me $20 worth of gift certificates for the store. I thanked him and joined the picket line. I donated those gift certificates to a local food bank. I never did go back in that store and was not surprised to see it go out of business about a year later.

Don't ever assume teachers don't stand shoulder to shoulder with their working class neighbors. It happens a lot more often than you realize.

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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 08:50 PM
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16. K&R All sorts of good ideas
get corrupted when there is a chance to make a buck. Selling out isn't just done by artists. The TFA leaders probably started out with a noble idea. But when it was the kids or the money, the kids get screwed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 08:59 PM
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17. And now they don't seem concerned they are harming career teachers...
and the worst part is that UW Dean actually believing the TFAers should "train" regular real classroom teachers.

It's gotten so far along, someone in leadership should speak out.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:31 PM
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18. No one listens to the ones who know.
Money wins.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:46 PM
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20. TFA = Teach For A While
they typically leave after 2 yrs, right?

and studies show children in low performing schools need experienced teachers, not new recruits w/ min exp

so TFA not only undercuts teachers' already low salaries, but it harms its other victims: the kids
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:48 PM
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21. Thanks for all you do for teachers
I don't know if I've said it before, but I do know I can't say it enough -- I really appreciate the posts you make here.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 11:56 PM
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23. ...
Thank you, that means a lot right now. It hazardous posting about it now. So many feel obligated to defend the policies because this time it is not Bush doing it....it is the Democrats.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 09:59 PM
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26. As usual, thank you for keeping us apprised of this takeover by the For Profit Crowd. KICK.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 06:23 PM
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28. It's not a popular thing to do here.
And I find that very sad to see how very little public education is treasured in this country...and how easy it is to dismantle it.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 10:04 PM
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27. Anonymous? LulzSec?
Could you go after Teach for America, please?
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:12 PM
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29. Thank you madfloridian
This is so insane it defies all logic. Why don't they just go ahead and come out and say they are taking over all
the public schools in this country? I really don't understand how people can sit so idly by with this complete takeover!
It's a good thing I'm too old to be in a classroom. If they sent someone into my classroom to "teach" me, there would
be a fight to the finish. I know I would be fired and probably arrested , but it would be worth it. Damn....this is
getting really ugly.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 07:13 PM
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30. Esp. someone with 5 weeks training...
The utter nerve of it is stupefying.
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