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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:44 AM Original message |
Japanese professor: Melted fuel has gone through containers & sinking into ground below + much more |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's safe and clean!!!! |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Someone on DU likened it to making electricity with botulism toxin |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. But botulism clears up wrinkles |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. Einstein commented that they were using nuclear reactors to boil water for steam -- !!! |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Beginning to wonder.... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. If even half the claims made in the OP were true, you might have a point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Deleted message |
TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Saying it's true doesn't make it so. Science is used to determine fact from fiction. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not even a blip on my tee vee or noosepaper. |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. They should have built the reactors to resemble wieners. Or named it the Wiener plant. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. +1 |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. The Wiener Plant... |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
75. Something... Something.. RODS! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. SILENCE is also an answer -- !! |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. They might as well use Tupperware |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. Interesting information about Alex's videos. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. That stood out for me as well. What the heck is up with that? |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. The ony way I can see this happening is with a copyright complaint? nt |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. A sad thank you. kr |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. k/r |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. dont worry! the denialists will be along shortly to make this all better |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
12. K & R nt |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. If they're water in the fuel rod tanks, how can the rods still be melting and working downward |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. this isn't the spent fuel rods, this is the active reactor core n/t |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. But they've been injecting water into the cores this entire time too |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Water kills fire, right? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. The cores weren't on fire; they were melting due to radioactive decay heat |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You're almost there |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. You really think a nuclear reactor's core is a chemical reaction? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. You are right |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Burning is an oxygen reaction |
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AnotherDreamWeaver (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. putting water on burning magnesium only helps it burn.... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Here's some pertinent info from a March article in Scientific American |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And that's what it likely did, until water pumping was re-established |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. because the containment vessel is breached there is no way to create a long lasting pool of water |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Two thoughts from a non-scientist (me) |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. "I just couldn't see how that was possible with water now being added to the core. " |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Rods allow water to circulate and cool the fuel. But when it melts down... |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
67. Only these flares do not use oxygen or chemistry. They use neutrons and nuclear reactions. nt |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Because this is a nuclear decaying reaction |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. It isn't submerged. It is a lump sitting on the concrete floor, covered |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. A nuclear reaction that is in progress, |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes, we did see several hydrogen explosions in the first month |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Again, you can't just spray water on a nuclear reaction |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Yes you can, because adding water removes heat. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I think the previous poster was talking about stopping nuclear decay/chain reaction |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. possibly, though they've already added boric acid to the water. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #43 |
72. Gee, I just love it when non-scientists, and non-experts in the field try to explain such things |
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Sirveri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. I used to work in nuclear reactors myself from '05 to '08. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Wrong |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
71. Umm, no |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Really |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
24. K&R! |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. thanks for bringing news here. we sure don't get it from the fuckers at CNN |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
32. How is it possible that TEPCO is still in charge of anything? Mind-boggling... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
33. Kicked and recommended. |
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Cowpunk (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. About those two plants in Nebraska |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
35. Thank you for your updates stockholmer |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. thank you so much for doing this. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. Thanks for putting this together. KnR |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
42. k + r nt |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. K & R |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
52. Nuclear Radiologist: Don’t be fooled by paid industry “consultants” - including here! |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. +1 |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. No surprise at all - probably has been burning through the ground for weeks =nt |
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ergot (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Well, for sure I'm avoiding the area 900 miles ESE of Uruguay for the next 580 years. |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
55. FREE the French guy's videos |
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bottom line (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. unfortuate reality |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. "There are no checks & balances in their unreality. " Bang on. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. I remember when |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. Where are our world scientists who should be following this? Where are governments? |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
64. Thanks for all your work pulling those links together. They are a Must Read! |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-20-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
65. I know this is happening in real time. I always feared it was as bad as this. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
70. Screw nuclear energy |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
73. K&R! nt |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
74. Thank-you, stockholmer... |
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Esse Quam Videri (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
76. Stockholmer much thanks for putting this together. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-21-11 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
78. They buried Iraq and Afghanistan in a news blackout. BP was let off the hook |
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